I would like ask a question females (or males who are familiar to this) of this community, why do girls like the ""bad boys" and "jocks"? Granted, it has probably something to the do with they way we are wired what with females looking for the Alpha male, not necessarily a muscle bound man but someone who takes control of the situation or who is pretty much in control. While I may not be a biology major, I heard of this on other forums and I wonder why girls seem to prefer jocks over nice guys and doormats. That is not to say that Jocks cannot be nice dudes but what do girls see in the ones who actually jerks that makes them so attractive now and later on in life when they are married, they may leave the older woman for another younger girl although not all of them are like this. I ask this to the community why do girls prefer the jerks over the nice guys?
Why do Girls like the bad boys?
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I have no idea and this is coming from someone who couldn't give a toss about bad boys.
They're probably liking it for the danger and advantages that comes along with it. However, girls have preferences over which guys they go for and it would appear that the bad boys fit them better.
They're probably liking it for the danger and advantages that comes along with it. However, girls have preferences over which guys they go for and it would appear that the bad boys fit them better.
I dont date bad boys. I get a bunch of wankers lol who act like little immature biys. Bad boy and me? Nah, Id get bored of him eventually.
Some women want excitement and a guy who rebels and doesnt eat his peas lol. So they go for the bad boy and wounder why hes a complete duchebag. Go figure.
Some women want excitement and a guy who rebels and doesnt eat his peas lol. So they go for the bad boy and wounder why hes a complete duchebag. Go figure.
Thankfully I'm not one of these girls who have interests in "bad boys". Why should I or anyone else? They might act really romantic and charming at first by saying rather amusing things to me, but that doesn't change the fact that they're possibly brutes and promiscuous cheats on the inside. A girl can think that it's "cooler" to take preferences to jocks because they're rather wary of society. They may simply see the stereotype that a real "man" is one who is overly muscular or athletic.
Again, I'll stress that I'm not one of these girls, so I don't know exactly. I normally only get comfortable with nice people, who I can trust and am long time friends with.
Again, I'll stress that I'm not one of these girls, so I don't know exactly. I normally only get comfortable with nice people, who I can trust and am long time friends with.
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You are stereotyping my boy. I sincerely doubt all girls love bad guys.
1) You want a liar?
2) You want someone who makes false promises about their life? i.e. "My band is going to make millions, college can wait"
3) You want a dude who treats you like an item who has been marked down? As in your just the catch of the week.
4) In it for the sex? Sex lasts for how long till he moves to a new girl from boredom?
5) A) You want a dude to leave you at the moments notice of meeting the parents B) Going on a planned date C) Talk of Marriage D) Mention of being pregnant.
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I think some girls are actually pretty logical these days, but you have to dig through the tards. Find yourself a self thinking individual that does her own thing, and gets with you for you.. not for how you act.
Your typical statement is the could be said the same thing about guys. We only are out for the girls with a nice ass or rack.. See how long that lasts.. will ya?
1) You want a liar?
2) You want someone who makes false promises about their life? i.e. "My band is going to make millions, college can wait"
3) You want a dude who treats you like an item who has been marked down? As in your just the catch of the week.
4) In it for the sex? Sex lasts for how long till he moves to a new girl from boredom?
5) A) You want a dude to leave you at the moments notice of meeting the parents B) Going on a planned date C) Talk of Marriage D) Mention of being pregnant.
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I think some girls are actually pretty logical these days, but you have to dig through the tards. Find yourself a self thinking individual that does her own thing, and gets with you for you.. not for how you act.
Your typical statement is the could be said the same thing about guys. We only are out for the girls with a nice ass or rack.. See how long that lasts.. will ya?
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Yeah, I don't know what kind of women you hang around with, but I look passed the bad boys as that is not what I would be looking for if I were interested in dating anyone.
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I guess where women do like bad boys it is merely natural selection.
Bad boys are often stronger, confident people, and probably make better breeders. That's probably a load of bull in the day and age of reason and the ability to have personalities, but some degree of that probably still exists.
In the wild, Bad-Boy would smash the skull of Nice-Man with a club, a flint, or even his bare hands. So Bad-Boy gets the girl, as he kills off the competition and is stronger. Nice-Man will have to stay away from Bad-Boy and has to see the girl when Bad-Boy isn't there.
I'm talking trash... Gah.
What I'm saying, in a dissapointingly silly way, is that in nature it is surival of the fittest. A lot of the "fittest" for us would be the bad boys; the alpha males, or the type that are selfish, aggressive, and would probably not be very nice even to the girls they win over. Perhaps some girls like them because it is within their nature / they have evolved that way?
Then again, like I said, we are mostly past that now. People hook up down to personality on the whole, with strength playing little role. A lot of people of all kinds (except Argors
) have the potential to be lucky enough to win the affections of a female without worrying about a dominant male storming into your house, killing you and marrying your girlfriend.
That said, some girls probably do still like the bad boy type as they might be stronger, meaner, and probably very masculine. Some girls might just be attracted to strong masculine types, even those that are essentially apes on steroids. They might just find them attractive, or it could be imprinted in females to go for these types because that is how it probably was for the majority in the past in the days when love = rape, and that only since the dawn of civilisation and the birth of reason / speech / communication are people able to see people's character and make judgements from that as well as appearances and strength, but that these two characteristics do still form a basis in some girls judgement today.
Bad boys are often stronger, confident people, and probably make better breeders. That's probably a load of bull in the day and age of reason and the ability to have personalities, but some degree of that probably still exists.
In the wild, Bad-Boy would smash the skull of Nice-Man with a club, a flint, or even his bare hands. So Bad-Boy gets the girl, as he kills off the competition and is stronger. Nice-Man will have to stay away from Bad-Boy and has to see the girl when Bad-Boy isn't there.
I'm talking trash... Gah.
What I'm saying, in a dissapointingly silly way, is that in nature it is surival of the fittest. A lot of the "fittest" for us would be the bad boys; the alpha males, or the type that are selfish, aggressive, and would probably not be very nice even to the girls they win over. Perhaps some girls like them because it is within their nature / they have evolved that way?
Then again, like I said, we are mostly past that now. People hook up down to personality on the whole, with strength playing little role. A lot of people of all kinds (except Argors
) have the potential to be lucky enough to win the affections of a female without worrying about a dominant male storming into your house, killing you and marrying your girlfriend. That said, some girls probably do still like the bad boy type as they might be stronger, meaner, and probably very masculine. Some girls might just be attracted to strong masculine types, even those that are essentially apes on steroids. They might just find them attractive, or it could be imprinted in females to go for these types because that is how it probably was for the majority in the past in the days when love = rape, and that only since the dawn of civilisation and the birth of reason / speech / communication are people able to see people's character and make judgements from that as well as appearances and strength, but that these two characteristics do still form a basis in some girls judgement today.
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Oddly enough, I've seen this trend in my time as well. I won't lie to you, it bothers me quite a bit, considering I've always been a nice guy and I've always been very respectful to women, even if they weren't a love a interest. I always say, nice guys finish last, I've yet to see a valid rebuttle to this statement.
What exactly is it that attracts women to bad boys? I suppose I don't have a really legitimate answer, but I do have thoughts on it. I'll start first by saying it's possibly a way for a woman to feel secure. With a stereotypical bad boy, they feel like this kind of guy will make a grand effort to fight for their relationship because they are tough and won't back down from anyone or anything. At some point in time, a woman comes to realize that these guys are the biggest cowards of the bunch. These guys may may fight to keep a relationship alive, but they may just as well fight as hard to make it end. This relationships tend to end in a bitter way more often than not. Just because he's bad to others, doesn't mean he'll be bad with his woman.
Another trend I tend to see is women try to "fix" this guy. Basically, they try to take a man with lots of problems (like drug problems), and try to "make them a better man". It is a self-accomplishment to help change someone's life for the better, but in my opinion, changing someone is a cardinal sin. I know a bad boy can get better, but if they are to be changed in these ways, who knows what else will have to change. It seems to me like these women actually do want a good guy, but want to form a bad one to be good. In most instances, a bad boy will always be bad, no matter what a woman thinks they can do to "fix" him.
I think when women start to mature in their life, they do come to grips with the fact that there really isn't a bright future with a bad boy, or even a reformed bad boy. Sometimes it takes a woman a long time to realize this, unfortunately.
What exactly is it that attracts women to bad boys? I suppose I don't have a really legitimate answer, but I do have thoughts on it. I'll start first by saying it's possibly a way for a woman to feel secure. With a stereotypical bad boy, they feel like this kind of guy will make a grand effort to fight for their relationship because they are tough and won't back down from anyone or anything. At some point in time, a woman comes to realize that these guys are the biggest cowards of the bunch. These guys may may fight to keep a relationship alive, but they may just as well fight as hard to make it end. This relationships tend to end in a bitter way more often than not. Just because he's bad to others, doesn't mean he'll be bad with his woman.
Another trend I tend to see is women try to "fix" this guy. Basically, they try to take a man with lots of problems (like drug problems), and try to "make them a better man". It is a self-accomplishment to help change someone's life for the better, but in my opinion, changing someone is a cardinal sin. I know a bad boy can get better, but if they are to be changed in these ways, who knows what else will have to change. It seems to me like these women actually do want a good guy, but want to form a bad one to be good. In most instances, a bad boy will always be bad, no matter what a woman thinks they can do to "fix" him.
I think when women start to mature in their life, they do come to grips with the fact that there really isn't a bright future with a bad boy, or even a reformed bad boy. Sometimes it takes a woman a long time to realize this, unfortunately.
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Actually I wanted to divert this topic just for a second, because I think it needs to be added. While some girls are attracted to bad guys, what makes a girl attracted to a wife beater?
That's where I really get chaffed. What in the world makes a woman want to stay with a man who beats the crap out of her?
That's where I really get chaffed. What in the world makes a woman want to stay with a man who beats the crap out of her?
NOt personally knowing about the answer to this myself, i asked a reliable source, Namely my GF (I'm ajock you see 
) and this is what she came up with. . . . .
apparently, she thinks that it's not something that can be explained, it's just something that happens, personally i think she is bending the truth, as she went for me, and i am a massive pain in the ass most of the time. but meh, this is what she says and i believe what she means. . . . i think
) and this is what she came up with. . . . . apparently, she thinks that it's not something that can be explained, it's just something that happens, personally i think she is bending the truth, as she went for me, and i am a massive pain in the ass most of the time. but meh, this is what she says and i believe what she means. . . . i think
Only the shallow girls go for the jocks. I couldn't give two shits about how built a guy is or how he looks. Granted, I do have to be attracted to him, but that doesn't necessarily mean he needs to be attractive. But really, usually grown up women (this doesn't have to do with a certain age) are the ones who understand that in the end of the day, it's really about what's inside.
I actually know a few women who have left their husbands/long-time boyfriends because he gained a couple of pounds and no longer looks like how he did in high school. It's really pathetic.
And I live in a small town, and 'bad boys' here are considered completely disgusting and most every girl wants nothing to do with them. Unless of course, the bad boy just so happens to be hot and/or 'a good fuck'.
*sigh*
I actually know a few women who have left their husbands/long-time boyfriends because he gained a couple of pounds and no longer looks like how he did in high school. It's really pathetic.
And I live in a small town, and 'bad boys' here are considered completely disgusting and most every girl wants nothing to do with them. Unless of course, the bad boy just so happens to be hot and/or 'a good fuck'.
*sigh*
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This is a difficult issue in that there could be many reasons why a girl would do such a thing.
The answer is most likely one of these explanations:
- she is too afraid to leave out of fear that the abuse will become even worse or turn fatal
- the male abuser is isolating her from the option of leaving (either physically, mentally, emotionally)
- perhaps they are a single parent/have children to worry about
- she isn't aware of the resources available for women in her situation
- she has no other means of support (i.e. no family, friends, etc)
- they're conditioned to think and thus live in such an abusive environment (i.e. women who were not abused as children and grew up in a loving environment generally do not get into abusive relationships; nor do they stay in them for very long)
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That's my main concern. When all the above options are invalid and the only reason the woman "goes back" is because she "says she loves him" and it is purely optional at this point... why do they stay? I've never seen it personally so I can not talk from experience, but it is a deep concern that I see.
I would be afraid what I would do to the guy who actually did this though. I'm sorry it's like beating a puppy as a kid. You pick on things weaker than you because you need the feeling of being empowered..
I've seen some women very attracted to this kind of man though. They want the big beefy fellas who use steroids, and often times can not control their own man from roid rage. See Chris Brown.. See the pro wrestler who murder suicided .. I mean.. it is sick that these fellas get away with such stuff, and it is more boggling women go back to their man afterwards.
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I really, really hate this issue cuz there's really no answer that justifies either applied problem. A girl can see something she likes and run with it, just as some guys can. They see an aspect and they get so curious they become actually infatuated with the prospect of it being something good in the end, only to find out it's nowhere close to what they actually ever wanted.
It's the same with guys and being attracted to slutty-dressing chicks, or the bad-girls you know? Like a guy can think that's all he w- wait. To finish this sentence would be to try to prove that sex isn't all guys want, which would inadvertently cause me to divide by 0. Nevermind about that, moot point.
It's the same with guys and being attracted to slutty-dressing chicks, or the bad-girls you know? Like a guy can think that's all he w- wait. To finish this sentence would be to try to prove that sex isn't all guys want, which would inadvertently cause me to divide by 0. Nevermind about that, moot point.
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It could be because they're so blinded by being in love that they rationalize the abusive behavior somehow, but don't ask me, 'cause I've never been in this situation.
Keep in mind that Rihanna and Chris Brown were (and still are) very young when that happened. At 18 and 19, your mind is still underdeveloped; that is, one of the most important parts of the brain that controls your ability to rationalize and foresee the consequences of your actions.
Keep in mind that Rihanna and Chris Brown were (and still are) very young when that happened. At 18 and 19, your mind is still underdeveloped; that is, one of the most important parts of the brain that controls your ability to rationalize and foresee the consequences of your actions.
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What the bleep!?
Just because you use the ages in this context, doesn't justify the presence of so much psychological warfare and ignorance in relationships between an 18 year old and a 19 year old. Your mind isn't physically "underdeveloped" at age 18+. In fact, that's normally the peak of your intellect level, having just learned about sex education, graduated, school stuff and whatnot. Just because you become attached to someone's behavior does NOT justify you confusing right from wrong, the concept you learned in facking kindergarten!
The ability to rationalize and foresee the consequences of your actions is called "applying ones conscience." It happens in microseconds with every thought and action we entertain. You can't turn it off. That's like turning off breathing.
Edit: Can someone bring some paper towels in here? Cuz it's getting juicy!
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Rofl thanks for the reminder of my age =). Good points.. well noted.
I don't quite see jocks as "bad" guys though. I see the bad guys as the lesser crowd who drinks, does drugs, and loiters around movie theaters/malls. The ones who don't really show much for themselves in terms of progress in life.
If they could have it their way, they would do three things in life. 1) Eat 2) smoke pot/ do other drugs 3) Random ass each week (new girl). The dude who drives a nice car.. and yet has nothing to show for it.
I don't know.. I've seen some retarded kids come to college bud. They come to college, drink, catch an STD/Get Pregnant, and fail right out.. so you call that peek intelligence... then damn.
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@Caedus: Actually, cognitive growth never stops. Humans are capable of learning at all ages.
As for physical development, it is a fact that, while the adolescent and young adult brain acts similarly to the adult brain in non-stressful situations; the same can not be said during high stress. The frontal lobe, which is like the CEO of the brain that controls the rational/logical decision making is not fully developed until well into your 20s. Hell, I'm probably just nearing my peak development and I'm almost 24 years old.
So, basically, in a high stress situation (e.g. an abusive relationship), it is much more difficult to react in a logical manner. Couple that with previous experience with abuse, growing up in an abusive household, perhaps not even having a male figure around or learning from other relationships, well, I'd say that's a perfect explanation as to why some women tend to stay even when the fists start flying.
As for physical development, it is a fact that, while the adolescent and young adult brain acts similarly to the adult brain in non-stressful situations; the same can not be said during high stress. The frontal lobe, which is like the CEO of the brain that controls the rational/logical decision making is not fully developed until well into your 20s. Hell, I'm probably just nearing my peak development and I'm almost 24 years old.
So, basically, in a high stress situation (e.g. an abusive relationship), it is much more difficult to react in a logical manner. Couple that with previous experience with abuse, growing up in an abusive household, perhaps not even having a male figure around or learning from other relationships, well, I'd say that's a perfect explanation as to why some women tend to stay even when the fists start flying.
Girls liking the bad boys, huh? I don't really see that much anymore. I guess it's because of the rush, the thrill. Or maybe because they feel protected? I dont know. Even though I'm a girl, I don't really chase after the 'bad boys'. I don't really understand it much myself...
Yeah, I really don't see the jocks as bad boys, either. Sure, they have their laughs every now and then, but who doesn't?
to me, the term 'bad boys' only applies to every day High School life, which is extremely short, and in relationships with which you are involved enough to understand the situation that is occurring.
I was pretty bad to the bone when I was a kiddo. In fact, I was probably the baddest thing in bad at any school I attended had. I was treated like a psycho, no one cared about me, and I got nothing from it.
People were always afraid of me, and I suppose that's how I liked it, since at the time, I liked living a very isolated life.
In Kidnergarten, I started my life as a badass kid by scratching the skin off of Principal Dudley's face and kicking him in the balls for trying to escort me to his office because I told Mrs. Layman she was an ugly old bitch or something.
In the 1st Grade, I stabbed my friend with a pencil because the girl I liked... well liked him, and didn't like me back. Of course, we stopped being friends.
2nd grade actually went quite well, but one time the teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom again, saying that I had just went like five minutes ago, so I walked over to the cubbies and pissed on everyone's stuff.
After that, I was transferred to another school, where I was expelled for masturbating in class as well as pummelling the life out of a shithead kid that wouldn't stop messing with my friends.
I finished fourth and third grade via homeschooling.
Fifth grade... it went OK. Of course, I was doped out on all kinds of meds, though.
I pretty much spent my Sixth and Seventh grade year in a mental hospital after getting into it with some kids who threw ice at my sister.
Wasn't exactly smooth sailing there, either. I had a horrible Asthma Attack and got into it with another kid so frequently that he actually had to be transferred to another hospital.
Eighth grade actually went okay, surprisingly. Despite it all though, for a long time I felt like I was just holding in something that was going to burst. This was when my mother found my stepfather, the biggest a fool of a man.
He became the new source of my stress and my ventilation target. He made everything that any kid could throw at me sound like sticks and stones. They were nothing. Just petty, insignificant gnats that I would crush under my heel if they bothered me.
He assaulted my mother twice, that fucking bastard. and even went far enough to try to assault my sister. I told him I would slit his throat in his sleep and give him a Colombian Necktie if he ever did that shit again.
I was alone my entire life in high school, bar the friend that I made when I moved here in Middle School... But even then, things fell out after some time.
After that, I just isolated myself completely, to the point that I only attended 40ish/180 days in the School year for two years straight and eventually dropped out because I got tired of the judge riding my ass and sending me to Juvinile Detention for every month of school I didn't attend.
Even now, I'm still pretty badass. But no one cares. It's not getting me anything but my own self-satisfaction.
to me, the term 'bad boys' only applies to every day High School life, which is extremely short, and in relationships with which you are involved enough to understand the situation that is occurring.
I was pretty bad to the bone when I was a kiddo. In fact, I was probably the baddest thing in bad at any school I attended had. I was treated like a psycho, no one cared about me, and I got nothing from it.
People were always afraid of me, and I suppose that's how I liked it, since at the time, I liked living a very isolated life.
In Kidnergarten, I started my life as a badass kid by scratching the skin off of Principal Dudley's face and kicking him in the balls for trying to escort me to his office because I told Mrs. Layman she was an ugly old bitch or something.
In the 1st Grade, I stabbed my friend with a pencil because the girl I liked... well liked him, and didn't like me back. Of course, we stopped being friends.
2nd grade actually went quite well, but one time the teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom again, saying that I had just went like five minutes ago, so I walked over to the cubbies and pissed on everyone's stuff.
After that, I was transferred to another school, where I was expelled for masturbating in class as well as pummelling the life out of a shithead kid that wouldn't stop messing with my friends.
I finished fourth and third grade via homeschooling.
Fifth grade... it went OK. Of course, I was doped out on all kinds of meds, though.
I pretty much spent my Sixth and Seventh grade year in a mental hospital after getting into it with some kids who threw ice at my sister.
Wasn't exactly smooth sailing there, either. I had a horrible Asthma Attack and got into it with another kid so frequently that he actually had to be transferred to another hospital.
Eighth grade actually went okay, surprisingly. Despite it all though, for a long time I felt like I was just holding in something that was going to burst. This was when my mother found my stepfather, the biggest a fool of a man.
He became the new source of my stress and my ventilation target. He made everything that any kid could throw at me sound like sticks and stones. They were nothing. Just petty, insignificant gnats that I would crush under my heel if they bothered me.
He assaulted my mother twice, that fucking bastard. and even went far enough to try to assault my sister. I told him I would slit his throat in his sleep and give him a Colombian Necktie if he ever did that shit again.
I was alone my entire life in high school, bar the friend that I made when I moved here in Middle School... But even then, things fell out after some time.
After that, I just isolated myself completely, to the point that I only attended 40ish/180 days in the School year for two years straight and eventually dropped out because I got tired of the judge riding my ass and sending me to Juvinile Detention for every month of school I didn't attend.
Even now, I'm still pretty badass. But no one cares. It's not getting me anything but my own self-satisfaction.