Most boring FF relationship

[Eight]

I think it's kinda obvious, but expect spoilers for all FF titles here.

In every text, we all find that relationship that grates our gears, saddens us, but my question is; In FF, what do you think is the most boring CANON relationship? Keep in mind, the keyword here is canon, so no fan pairings, and no LTD (until it's confirmed Cloud has got with either Tifa or the reanimated corpse of Aerith. Besides, we all know that'd encourage a flame war anyway)

So, I was replaying FFIV and during the thought hit; I find Cecil and Rosa's chemistry rather dull. In my opinion, it's cliché, predictable, and just overall, kinda boring. Hell, when she joined the party again, I was more happy at the thought of having a decent White Mage rather than the thought of reuniting the lovers. I dunno though, maybe it could be because their romance may of developed before the story.

 

[Linnaete]

The very thread title itself instantly made me think of Cecil and Rosa.

I think what I found to be really dull about it was Rosa's own character. Nothing about her really stood out for me. What do I remember her for? Err, she was kidnapped at least once or twice, had to be rescued from some desert sickness, being a white mage and being Cecil's lover. She's just your perfect kind of fairytale lover for a main character and from what I gathered, I don't even remember that many intimate scenes between them bar the one in Cecil's bedroom at the beginning of the game. I was aware that they're lovers, but at the same time during the course of the the game I didn't give a damn about them at all. I was actually more interested in the potential Edge/Rydia pairing to notice the remarkably weak chemistry between Cecil and Rosa.

There's also the fact that the concept of the pair of them being lovers was completely thrown into our faces. Rosa shows up and she happens to be in a relationship with Cecil. No real further exploration than that, we just accept it. I do suppose though that many pairings do this too, none really strike me as being as uninteresting as Cecil & Rosa.

 

[Gabe]

I'll probably have to agree with you on the whole Rosa/Cecil claim.

It's just too bullshit for me, to be honest. xD At first it seemed like Rosa was only attracted to his charm, and Cecil was constantly sucking up to her by always playing hero, and such. Which was a completely predictable relationship right there.

Rinoa and Squall are a couple I hear get argued about a lot, and I'll have to say they're an ALRIGHT pair, I suppose. I probably wouldn't say they were boring, but it sometimes bothered me, and sometimes seemed nice how he acted like his life was dedicated to making Rinoa happy and everything, while his friends are kinda just... there. It was nice during the drifting in space scenes, and rescuing her from death multiple times, but sometimes, just the way they communicated like Rinoa acting all cute and such, was a bit too annoying.

I also hate in love stories in general, the way that the pairing's lives are suddenly dedicated to the other person's, they view their friends as minorities compared to the one they have their sweet little crush on, and that always bugs me. But Rinoa and Squall were actually decent, because often sweet moments did happen between them.

 

[Eight]

There were other people in FFVIII? But yeah, though I loved their chemistry because the way it developed, the other characters needed love too D= Goddamn teenage angst and hormones.

And admittedly, Livvy, I looooove Edge x Rydia (my favourite FF pairing). I did wonder if Cecil x Rosa was over shadowed by my admiration for that potential relationship, but then I remembered overall it's just a dull, typical hero rescued damsel in distress yet damsel is lucky enough to be taken along for the ride story. It doesn't do Rosa's character any good, especially in comparison to Rydia who is represented as a much stronger individual. (despite the point that in some battles, she takes a hit like a bitch)

It's funny, the relationship I feel has the weakest chemistry is in the same game as the one I think is the best.

 

[Shaissa]

I'm not sure if RosaXCecil relationship was boring more than, they were already together before the game started. in most of the other FF games (all of them I can think of) the relationship was being made during the game. I guess you can argue CloudXTifa but as far as I can see that relationship didn't really take off till during the game.

So yes you can say RosaXCecil relationship is boring but I think it was that the gamers already established they were already in a romance with each other why it felt "boring."

For me I have to say the most boring relationship was LockeXCeles. There was points where I never knew if there was a real relationship or not, and other times when they were interested in each other, then it took a drop and never got back on track. so for me just not knowing if it was a relationship or not was boring to me.

 

[OzDok]

Probably Rosa and Cecil. It's like it was thrown in as an afterthought, "Oh yeah, by the way we go out together."

No chemistry between them, no explanation to the relationship and Cecil seems more interested in Kain to be honest.

 

[Artemisia]

I think the reason people found the Cecil-Rosa pairing so boring was because their relationship was already established from the beginning of the game. They had been childhood sweethearts and it was pretty obvious that they'd eventually marry (though in the Advance version Cecil goes on about them not being able to be together because he's a Dark Knight and whatnot, though no one else seems to be bothered by their relationship). Basically there was no buildup to the romance like we saw in VIII, IX and X. I agree they could've done more with them. Maybe Cecil could've done something terrible that Rosa can't get over (e.g. killing the Mysidians, which she just seems to take with a pinch of salt), leading to her becoming distant, then events bring them back together bla bla.

Though one must realise the game was made during a time when the focus of games was more on the task at hand - that being saving the world - than the romantic chemistry between the hero and heroine. Female leads were generally damsels in distress, with the supporting heroine being the independent, spunky one as a foil the heroine's delicacy. This pattern continued in FFV with Lenna and Faris, and only from FFVI onwards did the main heroines start gaining more personality, becoming more than just the princess/lover who had to be rescued. In my opinion FF female leads only started becoming likeable from FFVI onwards, though even Aerith in FFVII tended to grate my nerves from time to time ("I grew up in the slums, I'm used to danger, I can protect myself" one moment, then "Oh Cloud, be my bodyguard, oh Cloud, save me!" the next ) Yeah, I've always been a Tifa fan...

 

[ElvenAngel]

I always found Tidus and Yuna to be rather dull as a pairing. I mean, it's a stereotypical 'shy girl/genki dork' setting and it didn't even really have something that I could state as being interesting. Then again, it may have more to do with the fact that I just don't like Tidus that much and I thought Yuna was so... well, flat in FFX. I was expecting more out of their relationship, which I wasn't seeing. ._. made me a sad panda because at least they got a drickin' proper kiss scene while my favorite pairing didn't...

That being Squall and Rinoa. They're far from perfect and far from what I'd see as an ideal pair but they're at least interesting. I mean, at least you have the notion that Squall is trying in that relationship, even though he doesn't know what the hell he's doing because his emotional response is so stinted and awkward--which makes sense since he's a teenager who's been a child soldier all his life, it's kinda normal that he's a bit confused at his own feelings. It's fun to watch Rinoa get him into situations where he doesn't know what to do and his cool is demolished into a pile of awkward.

I agree with the notion that love stories have a knack of sorta getting in the way of the actual plot and there aren't many stories I've seen that handled them well. It's a point I make in my own writing, to keep the love story firmly planted within the plot without it taking over the whole thing.

 

[Rapture]

I'd have to agree that the Rosa x Cecil relationship was the most boring for me. They hardly showed that they were in a relationship at all...and their relationship was so cliche itself...typical guy out to save the world and the princess. They could have at least shown that they really loved each other asides from that one scene at the beginning of the game. They aren't my favorite FF couple. TBH I liked the possibility of the

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Rydia and Edge pairing better...at least theirs would have been a little more entertaining since those two had more personality as characters.

 

[Martel]

Most boring FF relationship? How about...all of them? I'm one of those people who honestly doesn't like romance in video games; its poorly done and somehow manages to subvert the entire goddamn plot, leading you to believe that if these characters break up or have even a tiny fight, a nuclear holocaust will happen and life as we know it in that video game will cease to exist. Its dull and stereotypical. This is one of the reasons I love FFXII so much: romance is absent. But anyway, going through each of the ones I can remember individually...

Cecil x Rosa - Eh, this was just kinda...there, really. Like it was a footnote in the instruction manual: "Oh, by the way, Rosa is really into Cecil, and Kain is really into Rosa, and Golbez is really into Kain." or something like that. They're like one of those old couples - everyone knows they're together, and nobody really cares. Like Clark Kent and Lois Lane...EXACTLY like Clark Kent and Lois Lane, now that I think about it.

Cloud x Tifa/Aerith/Zack/Sephiroth/JENOVA/whoever - Come on, Cloud doesn't go with anyone. I've seen Daleks with more emotion than Cloud. He's absolutely incapable of feeling. ANYTHING with Cloud in it is boring. Nothing happens. Angst angst angst. Blah blah blah. Ship him with whoever you want, its quite clearly a case of unrequited love. Cloud is too busy polishing his giant sword and moaning about how Zack was a better character than he was to feel things.

Squall x Rinoa - What the hell was this? Am I the only person who thought this was absolutely ridiculous? Rinoa was clearly interested in Seifer, then Squall gets an icicle through his shoulder and all of a sudden she's all over him. It just kinda happens, and Seifer just goes right out the window. It made no sense whatsoever...its dull because the only reason it happens is because Squall is the main character, and Seifer is an antagonist, and antagonists aren't allowed to have girlfriends.

Zidane x Garnet - Insert my standard speech about how much I hate FFIX here, and re-attach my head after Liv Liv cuts it off...or at least put it somewhere within reach of my body, please [Livi Edit: I'll probably go easy on you, because you're a fellow FFXII fan. ]. [Martel Edit: Jolly good ] I could never connect with Garnet's imaginary character, and I just wanted to set Zidane's tail on fire. They're bloody welcome to one another, as far as I'm concerned. Boring game, boring relationship.

Tidus x Yuna - This one is probably the least boring of them all although, again, this completely dominates the plot. What happened to saving the world, Yuna? Get out of the bloody kitchen and get back to being a strong female protagonist--oh wait, that's an oxymoron in the Final Fantasy series, isn't it? This was boring because it stopped Yuna from developing properly, from standing on her own two feet and actually being a believable saviour of the world. Instead of developing her character, she leans on Tidus for support. Gods, are we ever going to get past this stereotype?

Wakka x Lulu - Don't make me cover this one. Please. I can make more sense of Squall x Rinoa than I can of this. This is NOT a logical step to take, people! You don't have a baby with your dead lover's brother! Or am I missing something crucial here? This was boring mostly because it wasn't explained at all. After this, I was expecting Kimhari to have become a singing stripper in an Al Bhed nightclub in the gap between X and X-2...then I realised Rikku already had that covered...or uncovered, as the case may be.

Snow x (Barthandelus) Serah - Do I really need to go over this? Serah is jailbait, there is no way in any country other than Japan where its a free-for-all on underage girls that she's legal, and Snow's constantly yelling out her name like she's Solid Snake is one of the reasons I absolutely DESPISE his character. I suppose they could cover in XIII-2 just precisely why we should give a damn about their anything-but-legal and thoroughly tedious romance, but I can't see myself caring either way. They met. They dated. They got engaged. Serah turned into a crystal. Snow deified her and started shouting her name every five minutes. The end. Yet ANOTHER boring, predictable relationship to drive a character "forward" or however they like to see it.

I think the primary reason FF relationships are boring is because they're predictable. Have a hero fall in love with a villain, or vice versa! Stir up and outright muddy the waters, make the intrigue and emotion a part of the plot, instead of the driving focus. Have a homosexual relationship! Do SOMETHING that we won't see coming, for crying out loud!

 

[Artemisia]

Do I really need to go over this? Serah is jailbait, there is no way in any country other than Japan where its a free-for-all on underage girls that she's legal,

If I'm not mistaken, according to the FF Wiki Serah is 18, and Snow is 21, so it's not really an issue of Serah not being legal, it's that Snow is REALLY tall and Serah is REALLY short and skinny.

 

[Tucker]

I think the primary reason FF relationships are boring is because they're predictable. Have a hero fall in love with a villain, or vice versa! Stir up and outright muddy the waters, make the intrigue and emotion a part of the plot, instead of the driving focus. Have a homosexual relationship! Do SOMETHING that we won't see coming, for crying out loud!

I think that's gonna happen in FF Versus... hopefully. It would be a nice twist.

 

[Squid]

Snow X Serah is a really boring relationship. Not only are they creepy but they hardly have any substance. They don't suit eachother and I don't find myself caring about them at all!

 

[Sexy Beast]

Snow X Serah is a really boring relationship. Not only are they creepy but they hardly have any substance. They don't suit eachother and I don't find myself caring about them at all!

^this.

Seriously, I was thinking of Snow and Serah. there's the fact that nothing of Serah's personality speaks interesting, and second, Snow is godawfully annoying. I can seriously do without the "SERAH!!" yells. Okay snow, I got the memo the first hundred times.

 

[Saints&Storms]

Locke and Celes (They were a couple right?)...I just hated their parts and the parts that focus on their "romance". Celes became a damsel in distress and their relationship was so predictable: from the moment they meet to the moment the game ends I felt like they were being forced onto everyone as a pairing and Characters.

These two and their relationship just turn one of the best FF's into a soap opera at time >.>

But I have to agree with everyone else too and say Snow x Serah as well.

 

[HRBN]

I'm a FF IV fan and I kinda find Cecil x Rosa dull...
Cause their relationship was made even before the start of the series soI understand why.
My best pairing would be Rydia x Edge!

 

[Starships]

Okay Ingus and Serah is interesting because it's really cute. Ingus is just adorable and so shy around Serah. Damn, SE loves the name Serah don't they ?

Cecil and Rosa is already formed before the game begins, there's a couple of moments of decent romance, but this pairing is more to provoke empathy for Kain, than hey, Rosa and Cecil are gonna have babies.

Locke and Celes is cool. Celes is the tough general warrior and Locke is the gentle guy, they seem to clash at the beginning, but they warm up to each other over time. It's interesting how their relationship develops into deep love for each other, so that's not dull.

Rinoa and Squall is maybe the most interesting, because of how much focus and attention their love story gets than most other FF couples. So that's not dull !

Zidane and Garnet are like Locke and Celes IMO, clash and then they develop. But Zidane and Garnet are so incredible, so no boring stuff there.

Tidus and Yuna.... well I hate Tidus and I kind of liked Yuna x Seymour at the beginning before Seymour got pedo stalker zombie on us all. I dislike their relationship, but they are not dull.

Snow and Serah. Yeah they're dull. Snow just announces that they'll marry, Snow screams out her name like a retard, there's no desire to learn about them. Snow and Serah are the most boring.

 

[Thief of Hearts Joker]

Rinoa and Squall is maybe the most interesting, because of how much focus and attention their love story gets than most other FF couples. So that's not dull !

THANK YOU Everyone pick's on Rinoa and Squall,if you guy's wanna pick on someone in FFVIII How about Quistis and Squall ((I think there was a hint to this)) or Irvine's constant flirting with anything with boob's in a skirt...

-cough- now that aside....

I found that the Zidane x Eiko thing to be most disturbing,even though Zidane denies it that doesnt stop Eiko from trying her best to seduce him LOL!,It was creepy but quirky and funny.

As for Cecil and Rosa I never got to finish FF4 due to some difficulties in a dungeon but I did find their relationship rather dull,it was nice that they were together from the start but it could have developed alot better =/.

Cloud x Aerith/Aeris,I found that this was one sided Cloud was interested in Aerith in alot of way's but I always felt she was looking at a blonde version of Zack,It just never really sparked my intrest.I perfered Tifa and Cloud since they had chemistry from childhood.

thats about it aside from these few I enjoyed all the other love stories =P

 

[♥Hikari♥]

Hey, do you really think that ZidaneXGarnet and SquallXRinoa are dull? Maybe it's just because I love both games, but I find both relationships very interesting.

ZidaneXGarnet: I love FFIX plot and I think that their relationship is perfectly fit in it, it's not boring at all, they start with caring about each other, then they begin to have some feelings, at the end we can understand that they fell in love after all they've been through. I think it's nice, they never say "I love you", they never kiss, it's not dull at all.


SquallXRinoa: Ok, maybe this one is a bit schmaltzy, but there's nothing wrong with them. After all, love is one of the most important themes in FFVIII. Ok, sometimes Rinoa is clingy at the point that she makes me want to kill her, but she managed to change Squall with her attitude... and this is positive.

I agree that there's a cliché which always puts the male protagonist together with the female protagonist. It would have been nice to see Rinoa and Seifer together, maybe. Anyway, this doesn't change my opinion about he wonderful plot.

 

[ShadowStar Mila]

Serah and Snows Relationship is the only releationship I hated, Even Yuna and Tidus I didnt like but I think they where good for each other. Snow should not be a cougar dating underaged girls (her character looks way to young compared to his old wimpy butt) And his whining and complaining about her didnt help me like him as a character or their pathetic relationship at all.