Should FF have ended?

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GabrielleTheLost

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i was talking to my fathers friends son today about FF. he was talking about how FF X is his favorite and that 11 and 12 and 13 were not as good and he thinks the series should have just ended at FF 10. i do not really know if i agree or not because i have only played 2 games but i am curious what does every one else think?
 
NO NO NO NO ( ;) ) why? Because then we would have never got 12, which I think is a really great game. I'm not sure if FF will ever cease to exist. At least during our life time. No it should not have ended nor should it end. It just needs a revamp. More ideas for stories and features for gameplay, and it will start to get better. They're in a down period with the games right now. Things will get better soon.
 
I think FFX is the last of the good games and I doubt that any of the others like that version of FFXIII with noctits will be any good.
Should it have ended? No. I think some people enjoy these shithouse FF games that are made now, and as much as I think they're terrible I wouldn't deny other people their enjoyment.
 
GNo... The problem is how Kitase decided to have a change of heart about FF series in XII, now its not a bad game because most of it was stylistic choices. But kitase doesnt direct ff anymore, and now has entrusted it to Motomu Toriyama, so we will most likely see more FFs to come from him. Hopefully SE realizes how bad of an idea that is. Their running low on FF directors and Nomura seems to find it to exhausting.
 
I think that would have been very sad if it had ended at 10. I mean, it really should have ended at 1, but look at how far it's come (lol - because of "Final" Fantasy, get it? :D). I do think, though, however, that they should have taken a break after 10 to really think about and feel what the next FF should have been like, considering their changes in staff and merging with Enix. I feel like everything after 10 was not well thought out and has no real emotions the way the older FF's do. I like what JeriKane1998 said - VERY optimistic compared to what some others have been saying about the series lately and I feel the same way. Though...I don't know when we'll see the "next great FF", as it has been years, lol...sadly, it may take even more years, unless they've given Versus the thought and feelings that it needs for us to like FF again. We're all hoping and hyping up graphics and little of what we know, but...well, we'll just have to see.

Also - if FF were to die, I don't know what I would do anymore, lol. Meaning, I don't know how interested I would be about video games without it. It's the sole reason I buy systems and play video games in the first place.
 
No because there's still hope for the future that FF 15 and FF 16 will be good and bring back the series to it's former glory. I mean imagine if the Disney company stopped after the disaster that was The Black Cauldron There would've been no Beauty and the Beast, no Little Mermaid, no Aladdin, no Lion King, No Mulan.
 
Final Fantasy can never really end because of its approach to its sequels: each taking place in a new world with new characters and histories. Therefore there are infinite possibilities under the banner of FF, provided the staple features remain, i.e. chocobos, moogles, airships, etc.
So there may be titles that hit and miss, but there is always potential for another wonderful era in the series as the game industry changes and reforms.

No because there's still hope for the future that FF 15 and FF 16 will be good and bring back the series to it's former glory.
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^Exactly that.
 
The quality hasn't been the same since Sakaguchi jumped ship. That's the cold honest truth of it. Ever since he left, the main series has been experiencing an on going identity crisis with the new developers trying to put their own stamp on the franchise and ultimately creating something that didn't really feel or play as Final Fantasy should. If Final Fantasy XIII was the last singleplayer game in the main series, I wouldn't cry myself to sleep over it. If they do persist with it though (which they probably will) I think they need to take the series back to its roots.
 
No! I will probably get a lot of crap from some people, but FFX was a terrible game; boring characters and a bland story (Auron was the only good thing to come out of that mess) it would have been a Greek tragedy to have the series end with such a disastrous conclusion!

Final Fantasy is definitely lacking, but I am confident SE will bounce right back and take us to the good ol' days of glory.

By the way, the last great Final Fantasy was VII (not the best, just the last great).
 
I guess the question becomes would you rather it ended on a high note, or end when it is about to die anyways :hmm:.

For me I say let it continue, I mean, you have arguably 10 great games for the main series, (although I liked 12 and 13 I will leave them out cause those are arguably the most hated amongst the fans.) Got some very good spinoffs/sequels/prequels.

Think about it this way, do you expect everything that has Final Fantasy to strike gold every time?
Heck everyone thought Pixar could never make a bad movie and then Cars 2 came out...
Do we tell Pixar to stop making movies now? Heck no, they learn and move on (hopefully)

Square well hopefully learn and move on also... eventually..probably with the next gen... but hopefully they will move on with a new promise...

"Wait for E3"....

Also, name a series that has been around as long as Final Fantasy... or heck that has been around for 10-15 years, that has not had a few games that have been arguably bad?
 
The last truly great Final Fantasy game for me was IX. Everything else since has been lacking though X and XII are still great games just could of been so much more. XIII can go suck a dick. Despite not having a truly great instalment for quite some time now I don't think the series should of ended but Square-Enix really do need to shape up and put something worthy out with the Final Fantasy name.
 
For me, Final Fantasy stops at 10. After that was FFX2 and FFXI (which shouldn't have even had a number). The next FF is an online only MMO, like World of Warcraft. WHY does that one deserve a number? That, plus FFX2 makes me think Final Fantasy stops at 10, with FF4-7 being the best ones.
 
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The last truly great Final Fantasy game for me was IX. Everything else since has been lacking though X and XII are still great games just could of been so much more. XIII can go suck a dick. Despite not having a truly great instalment for quite some time now I don't think the series should of ended but Square-Enix really do need to shape up and put something worthy out with the Final Fantasy name.
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i highly agree. Many people dont consider XI, although i never bought XI (dont own a 360), it was very fun when i got the chance. I also thought X was lacking something. But it was still good game. XII i felt had good at its core but left unrefine. XII is more apreciated when you play Vagrant Story and Tactics.
 
I haven't played XI and I haven't played anything past XII. I'm willing to give XIII and XIII-2 a try but I have a feeling I'd be disappointed since I didn't like XII very much. I don't think the series should end but it would be nice to see them return to their roots in later games.
 
I don't subscribe to this narrative of "ehh, Final Fantasy needs to go back to the good old days". No. It does not. The franchise doesn't need to have to "return to its roots" (can we as fans even collectively agree on precisely what this means, when the modern installments still maintain a lot of existing elements from the earlier days of Final Fantasy??). It just needs to not be fucking shit. By that I mean, don't have a writing team that clearly can't write for shit. Don't have a game design philosophy that I disagree vehemently with. I know this sounds utterly subjective, but yes, that's the point. It's usually a franchise where fans typically hate one game but love some others. It's just unfortunate however that we've seen little but Final Fantasy XIII games lately.

I like experimentation and progress, as opposed to samey stagnation when rigidly relying on what works in the most conservative of fashion. I like experimentation and progress when the results are decent. But I don't want so much experimentation that the product becomes unnecessarily bogged down for many. For instance, though the Gambit system in FFXII is pretty good, why was there a licence board that involved grinding for points just to equip weapons? Why was that bit necessary?

EDIT: Augments, Espers and Quickenings via the LB worked. Just not the weapons. I'll develop my thoughts on the LB a bit later.

So, no. It shouldn't have ended. I think Call of Duty is utterly balls and should be rammed from behind by a charging bull. I despise the fanservice (and how generally crap the game looks) of Hyperdimension Neptunia to the extent that I even look down on its fans. Yet I don't think either should end just because I take umbrage with them in some shape or form. It's similar to how I feel about FFXIII and its sequels. Sure, they're balls, but if someone likes them, who am I to want the plug to be pulled? And unlike CoD or Hyperdimension, at least I can be assured that, barring more strings of managerial disasters and everyone dropping the ball entirely, Versus could be decent. FFXIV 2.0 could be decent. The one after that may be decent.

And for the record, I liked FFXII more than FFX. It hasn't won me many fans or adoration, but there you go.
 
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No, it should not end. FF in general is maybe the best RPG series and every game is fantastick in it's own unique way. Final Fantasy X is with Final Fantasy VIII the best game in the series. Final Fantasy XII is less better than FFX, but it's not bad, it is a good game. FFXIII is probably the worst in the series, but I had fun playing it. It has a good battle system (that's probably why I find it as a good game) along with graphics that is absolute brillant. Everything else FFXIII is missing and because of that I rank it as bad FF game.
 
I don't think so at all. What they need to do is reboot (or "preboot"?) the series. Return more to their roots, at least for the main titles. Spin-offs are great for experimenting and trying different approaches to gameplay, but the main series needs to get back on track.
 
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