KHIII Multi-platform thoughts

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What do you guys think? Should it be on Xbox One as well?

I know why Square is making this move, and it doesn't really affect me, but I think Kingdom Hearts was better off as a Playstation-exclusive title. (Whereas, FF fits on any platform well enough.) It's all about those dollar bills, though. :lew:
 
UNless they plan on releasing the 1.5 HD remix and the 2.5 HD remix onto ps4 and Xbox one. i think its a pretty stupid move.

it ruins the collection, but then again, so did the handhelds when they constantly switched to nintendo consoles to PS consoles. it was horrible because those who had a DS most likely didn't have a PSP and vice versa. Nomura realized this (unfortunately, didn't have the brains to realize this before production) and thats why we had the HD remix (which would've been done regardless if all the handhelds were on the same console).

either way, i can't see it being a good move...i just can't. Xbox one users will have to have had a ps3 just to play the series. and even then, constant switching between consoles to play them all
 
I dont see what odds it should make to anyone. Surely the more people that can play it the better? Thats a good thing no? Anyone upset about it being on both consoles needs to grow up.
 
Big Casino said:
I dont see what odds it should make to anyone. Surely the more people that can play it the better? Thats a good thing no? Anyone upset about it being on both consoles needs to grow up.
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If this was the first game or the sequels didn't matter in the story, then yes...it wouldn't matter. But this isn't the case.

So xbox one users will want the hd remix collection in order to be upto speed. Unfortunate iit won't sell as well as it will on PS4. Why? Kh fans acustomed to sony products....it has nothing to do with growing up. Its as if lightning returns was on the wii u.
 
Big Casino - Completely agree here. The more available it is to everyone the better. Full stop.

Only selfish people who don't want a great experience shared with others would think otherwise.
 
I see no reason why anyone should be annoyed that either this and XV are multi-platform.

You're still going to get the game on the console you'll want. Why would you care enough to begrudge people who have the Xbox One?

If it's due to a console war type of mentality, why do you care? Neither Sony or Microsoft pay you to play these. If these two and nintendo didn't compete, then the prices of such consoles and game could be potentially higher. That's why I don't get brand loyality- I'm going to buy any brand, if I think their product is worth it.

Anyway, slight off topic rant...

I just want to get the game. It's not a big deal to me that they're multi-platform. :lew:
 
Big Casino said:
Anyone upset about it being on both consoles needs to grow up.
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Cookie McGee said:
You're still going to get the game on the console you'll want. Why would you care enough to begrudge people who have the Xbox One?

If it's due to a console war type of mentality, why do you care? Neither Sony or Microsoft pay you to play these. If these two and nintendo didn't compete, then the prices of such consoles and game could be potentially higher. That's why I don't get brand loyality- I'm going to buy any brand, if I think their product is worth it.
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It simply comes down to preference. Some are definitely more hardcore about it, and simply loathe the fact that a great series is going multi-plat.

I think the majority of gamers, though, don't really care. They just want to play, period. :lew:
 
Razberry Knight said:
If this was the first game or the sequels didn't matter in the story, then yes...it wouldn't matter. But this isn't the case.


So xbox one users will want the hd remix collection in order to be upto speed. Unfortunate iit won't sell as well as it will on PS4. Why? Kh fans acustomed to sony products....it has nothing to do with growing up. Its as if lightning returns was on the wii u.
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Ehhh what? KH fans accustomed to Sony products? That is completely meaningless and has nothing to do with anything at all. Your basically saying that if its on xbox then people will be all confused? Or what? Your reasoning has no logic behind it.

But why my kingdom hearts be on xbox?? I so used to play on Sony and now it on xbox i not know what to do? :(:(

Lots of KH fans on here and elsewhere and some will have xbox and some will have ps4? Your operating under some daft logic that people with xbox ones will never have heard of this kingdom hearts series and wont know what to do because everyone who played KH clearly still plays playstation. You didnt even answer my question? Why does it matter that its on xbox? Cuz ''its a sequel'' is not a reason. Sounds like your sad to see a series go on MS aswell as Sony in which case you do need to grow up ;) Your likely mad about being able to play Sonic on Nintendo
 
I agree with Lewis. The only reason anyone who has all-sony products would need to be annoyed at this being available on xbox is if it became ONLY available on xbox so they couldn't play it. There's not really an issue with it being available on both. If you've got a PS4 then you can play it and what does it matter where else it's available?
 
Big Casino said:
Ehhh what? KH fans accustomed to Sony products? That is completely meaningless and has nothing to do with anything at all. Your basically saying that if its on xbox then people will be all confused? Or what? Your reasoning has no logic behind it.

But why my kingdom hearts be on xbox?? I so used to play on Sony and now it on xbox i not know what to do? :(:(

Lots of KH fans on here and elsewhere and some will have xbox and some will have ps4? Your operating under some daft logic that people with xbox ones will never have heard of this kingdom hearts series and wont know what to do because everyone who played KH clearly still plays playstation. You didnt even answer my question? Why does it matter that its on xbox? Cuz ''its a sequel'' is not a reason. Sounds like your sad to see a series go on MS aswell as Sony in which case you do need to grow up ;) Your likely mad about being able to play Sonic on Nintendo
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the mere fact that you need to have other games to play the game. sounds like you just want to make a console argument.


its common sense. the only way i can agree ti this is if the HD remixes get into the xbox aswell.

it matters because its not just a random entry in the series. we've had 4 games leading to kh3 (bbs, days, coded, 3D) it wont just be the simplest plot when several characters will need to be saved from their torment and those who haven't played the games AT ALL will have to find it more difficult to get accustomed to it.

heck i still think Assassin's Creed 3 for the Wii U is equally as bad. and its like having Halo 5 or Halo 6 onto playstation. sure ppl are familiar with it but others would like to try it out. im speaking for those who never played the series. and for kh3 its not just any number, so much built up has been made for it.
 
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You need to play the other games to play this game? Why is that? Kingdom hearts isnt exactly an epic tale..

How can it possibly sound like i want to argue about consoles? I am all for both people being able to play it. Your the one in a state because the game is going to be on xbox.

I dont know what else to say to you because your point is completely stupid :lew: There are people who will have xbox who will have played kh1 and kh2? Surely you can understand that?? There is NO reason not to have it on xbox -___-
 
Big Casino said:
You need to play the other games to play this game? Why is that? Kingdom hearts isnt exactly an epic tale..

How can it possibly sound like i want to argue about consoles? I am all for both people being able to play it. Your the one in a state because the game is going to be on xbox.

I dont know what else to say to you because your point is completely stupid :lew: There are people who will have xbox who will have played kh1 and kh2? Surely you can understand that?? There is NO reason not to have it on xbox -___-
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I completely agree with this statement :) I have been playing KH games just recently and to be honest there isn't overly much to know in the first game and the second. BBS and DDD on the other hand have a lot in them, but go on youtube and watch the cutscenes etc it aint that hard, thats what I done for DDD and for CoM because I couldn't play them. Also look on a wikipedia page or something it isn't hard for people these days to look up information. I am all the more to play it the better plus there will be people that will buy it just for something knew and whats saying that the game doesn't have some sort of digest segment explaining the story at the beginning?
 
If They ended up making exclusives on the ps3 (not the hd remakes) then, maybe I'd see exclusive on the ps4. Since it has been over 8 years since the second Kingdom Hearts, and a whole generation of console gaming later.... Why not try to get the xbox fan base? the xbox fan base had ps2's and played kingdom hearts.... And besides that, sony's hand in Square-Enix, they will probably get a nice chunk of it also.
 
Big Casino said:
You need to play the other games to play this game? Why is that? Kingdom hearts isnt exactly an epic tale..

How can it possibly sound like i want to argue about consoles? I am all for both people being able to play it. Your the one in a state because the game is going to be on xbox.

I dont know what else to say to you because your point is completely stupid :lew: There are people who will have xbox who will have played kh1 and kh2? Surely you can understand that?? There is NO reason not to have it on xbox -___-
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there isn't any reason to not have it on xbox...but stop trying to make it off as i'm some microsoft hater......like i said, there are other moves i personally find to be stupid such as the sudden shift for Assassin's Creed onto Wii U. and KH, is pretty much a bigger story. especially kh3 which need 4 games to lead upto it.


THose who never played KH in their entire life, will most likely alienate KH3. And this isn't some stupid pooint. this is also the reason why lightning returns wasn't called "FF13-3"

Mosh said:
I completely agree with this statement :) I have been playing KH games just recently and to be honest there isn't overly much to know in the first game and the second. BBS and DDD on the other hand have a lot in them, but go on youtube and watch the cutscenes etc it aint that hard, thats what I done for DDD and for CoM because I couldn't play them. Also look on a wikipedia page or something it isn't hard for people these days to look up information. I am all the more to play it the better plus there will be people that will buy it just for something knew and whats saying that the game doesn't have some sort of digest segment explaining the story at the beginning?
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missing the point entirely....have you tried looking up an entire series? ok.....kh1 and Chain of memories are games that follow up to KH2. KH2 is so heavily interconnected by days, coded, and 3D. BBS still heavily connects to KH3 and kh3D. If you play kh3 alone, and even playing the hanheld games, you still wanting left for more.

and reading about it, isn't as fun as actually seeing it first hand on ur TV. plus....what was the point of the HD remixes being on sony EXCLUSIVELY if their going to make it for Xbox One?

you see...its more of a tease to the KH beginners. ALSO i dont contest to KH being in Xbox at all, but i think its a dumb move to leave only kh3 and none of the HD remixes for those who never played the series and want to.
 
Razberry Knight said:
what was the point of the HD remixes being on Sony EXCLUSIVELY if their going to make it for Xbox One?

you see...its more of a tease to the KH beginners. ALSO i dont contest to KH being in Xbox at all, but i think its a dumb move to leave only kh3 and none of the HD remixes for those who never played the series and want to.
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Now I am not going claim to be an "expert" on this field or anything, but at least for Console games, minus a few exceptions with Nintendo back on the Gamecube with Crystal Chronicles and a handheld game here and there, when Kingdom Hearts came out, all they did was make games for Sony. All the Final Fantasy games, Dragon Quest, etc. etc.. Now I don't know just how much Sony had an impact back then with Square (and then Square Enix.) but I am guessing that there was some type of "agreement" sort-of-speak for their games being released exclusively on the PS1/PS2. I also have to guess that includes remakes of these games.

I know for a while Nintendo did that on the... Nes and Snes, but those types of agreements ended right when N64 came out, so Square could release FF I-VI on the Sony consoles.

Now maybe there is a timeline on these deals, or maybe not... but still I have to stick with my first statement, a good chunk of people that ended up buying a 360 over a PS3 could of owned a PS2 and could of played the KH games already, back on the PS2. The HD collection only expands the story a little, so they wouldn't really "need" to play those in order to get the full story... I mean the only exceptions are all the games that were on different handhelds... (Birth By Sleep, 3DDD, Coded, 368/2 or whatever... and Chain of Memories.) but then again, no one "knew" they were going make these HD collections until this year, so if people wanted to play them that badly, they probably already have...

In the end from KH II to KH III it has been a good seven years right now... (could be almost ten years by the time KHIII does come out, it wont be out this year and maybe not next year when they say FFXV will more than likely be released...) so why not let the fans that went to XBox after the PS2 era go ahead and play their Kingdom Hearts game?
 
Razberry Knight said:
there isn't any reason to not have it on xbox...but stop trying to make it off as i'm some microsoft hater......like i said, there are other moves i personally find to be stupid such as the sudden shift for Assassin's Creed onto Wii U. and KH, is pretty much a bigger story. especially kh3 which need 4 games to lead upto it.


THose who never played KH in their entire life, will most likely alienate KH3. And this isn't some stupid pooint. this is also the reason why lightning returns wasn't called "FF13-3"


missing the point entirely....have you tried looking up an entire series? ok.....kh1 and Chain of memories are games that follow up to KH2. KH2 is so heavily interconnected by days, coded, and 3D. BBS still heavily connects to KH3 and kh3D. If you play kh3 alone, and even playing the hanheld games, you still wanting left for more.

and reading about it, isn't as fun as actually seeing it first hand on ur TV. plus....what was the point of the HD remixes being on sony EXCLUSIVELY if their going to make it for Xbox One?

you see...its more of a tease to the KH beginners. ALSO i dont contest to KH being in Xbox at all, but i think its a dumb move to leave only kh3 and none of the HD remixes for those who never played the series and want to.
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Those people who have never played KH around 7 years ago and still haven't I would doubt even buy KHIII so I doubt that will lead to anything. Also yes I have looked up some of KH myself my PSP broke during BBS so I went to YouTube and watched the cutscenes and read a little and I watched CoM and coded on YouTube as well . I have 2 mates who are huge KH fans and they told me I don't miss anything out when I told them what I know of the story so I don't see it being a problem for others if they want to do that method. Yes I agree it isn't as great as playing it personally on your tv or reading it isn't fun for some but I would do anything to get into a franchise long ago. I luckily still had a PS2 to play the first games.

Not everyone is you but some are agreed but it isn't as bad as you make it out to be. Metal Gear Solid is more hard to follow then KH and trust me I can tell you everything over a long convo with a cup of tea.
 
You keep bringing up Assassin's Creed 3 for Wii U and I think even that's a poor comparison. Assassin's Creed 3 at its primary premise, is a self-contained story about Connor and the American revolutionary era. That is the game's draw point, not the batshit, yet still uninteresting conclusion of Desmond Miles, which is essentially in the background.

Razberry isn't wrong, but is putting too much stock on plot and the fact that this is a numbered game that is appearing on a console ecosystem for the first time. There are plenty of people who aren't bothered about going into a game with full chronological knowledge of what has happened so far. There are people who don't even give a flying toss about the plot. If there are people who don't give two hoots about Kingdom Hearts's baffling, complex, overly drawn-out, acid trip-induced storyline developed so far since the first game, I don't blame them.

Maybe it's just the thought of this dynamic, colourful action-RPG, how it plays and how it looks that draws in a curious Xbox gamer who has had no previous contact with the series. They will still get the core enjoyment out of playing it, even if it means being in the dark with the entirety of plot threads. It may even inspire these people to invest time and money into experiencing preceding games and build a knowledge of the franchise from there. It's not as convenient as having the HD remasters, but it's also not this big of a deal as this thread discussion seems to make it.

While they're there, Square may as well put FFXV and KH3 on PCs. Why? There are probably some people who have decided to migrate from consoles exclusively to PC for various reasons. Some of them might have fond memories of Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts back in the day. There may be PC gamers curious to try some big budget JRPGs at 4K resolution. Why not give them the opportunity to play the new games as well?
 
Just do what i did...
(KH3d announced for 3ds)... i run out & buy a 3ds :P
BBS comes out for psp with collectors edition PSP bundle?... i run out and buy that.
kh3 supposed to be out for ps3... i run out & buy a ps3...
and now its actually gonna be for ps4?... start a savings account for a ps4 lol.
& its all worth it because of the KH games as well as other awesome games ive bought because now i have all the systems :P

SO honestly it dont bother me too much that itll be for the xbox one.
it would be nice if they kept it with the ps4, but it dont matter to me, as long as they dont have different exclusives to the console (secret bosses, new equip, ext) i really have no issues with it.
 
I'm not going to quote anyone....but as a fan...if I want to play kh3 on xbox...I might as welll have the whole collection.


I think its stupid to only go halfway...and although Assassin's Creed seems like a self-contained story....the endings always move the story along. So a new fan will most likely nnot understand completely.

I'm not saying this is all based on plot, but KH is a heavily linear game series. And KH3 was based off of 4 subplots of the KH3 series. I highly doubt kh3 can reminisce seamlessly on all 4 games like how kh2 recapped kh1.

As a fan I'm heavily pissed off I had to buy several handhelds just for kingdom hearts, and that's why there are kh hd remixes in the first place. Now one could say these are for those who missed, but its also for the fans too. You get to play most of the KH games and relive them all in one disc.

Xbox one fans are missing out (unless they have a ps3) and its a bummer that you can't play HD remixes on the xbox. AND YOU'RE ALL IGNORING THAT IMPORTANT ASPECT. I have my point, and I'm not unreasonable. I'm. A penny saver and a fan who likes to play on a single console for one game.

And I'm also strongly considering what kind of IP would the xbox one user be interested. But I could care less if the hd remixes make it into xbox.


But overall, theres no room for you guys to be arguing with me over something i prefer if it went onto Xbox...thats something you should all prefer aswell as gamers.
 
Assassins Creeds are (mostly) standalone games so your comparison is a bit invalid. I played AC2 first and had no issue starting there - the only thing that follows on is the 'present day' stuff that makes up a tiny portion of the game. The only ones you really need to have played the previous ones for are Brotherhood and Revelations as they carry on Ezio's story.

Back to the original point. There's no issue so stop trying to make one :lew: KH is an old franchise and as people have said before the old ones were PS2, which was a much more popular/well known console than the original xbox, so a lot of xbox 360/one users will probably have had a PS2 before.
If it sells poorly on the xbox then thats square enix's problem and they won't do it again :wacky:
Who cares what platforms things are released on... as long as it's on the console you've got what should it matter what else it is on? As I said previously I could understand annoyance if they announced it was going to be on xbox one but not PS4 - but that's not the case :wacky:
 
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