Becoming a Mod/Staff member

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You can get on my staff. :kinky:

Honestly, I think you apply and they choose.

I'm not sure.

I'd like to know myself, cuz I'd love to be a Mod. :wacky:
 
For the most part this still applies; http://finalfantasyforums.net/showthread.php?t=28089. There's no detail on staff applications but when positions do open, an application thread is set up where you can apply.

The application (although not always used if the admins see it fit) is basically a questionnaire where you answer questions about yourself, about your activity, and questions about your professionalism and ability to handle different situations.
 
Generally you just have to be a helpful member of the forum. Normally the more associated with a particular area, eg Are Pee section, the better your chances.
 
Oh, i see. Thank you very much, Jay, i appreciate it. :)

I knew i read the rules before i registered, but every now and then i forget some of the finer details. will read thread now.
 
Nope, you can't ask. Just have to apply when the moment shows itself.

I'll never get on staff at the rate I'm going. :elmo:
 
Alyss said:
Nope, you can't ask. Just have to apply when the moment shows itself.

I'll never get on staff at the rate I'm going. :elmo:
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Pfft who says? It usually comes down to people and how they conduct themselves in certain sections. If they are adamant about a certain section (aside from spamz :sad3:) then they generally try to contribute to most threads people post. If they are a jack ass to members and or ignorant and have one sided views, it's hard to give a person like this any sort of responsibility.

I think anyone has a chance, but they have to show they enjoy the section and be respectful at the same time.

you must also be very pop you lar.
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Active and Popular go hand in hand. So yes in a sense you have to be, in that section.

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And to answer your question it is generally discouraged that you ask to be on staff. Why ask in the first place? Most folks when on staff have experienced, sometimes it's not all that fun having to dish out repercussions for troublesome behavior. Particularly so if you get along with them on the forum. Other times, it's awesome to see someone respect another member from a staffer's point of view, it makes moderating all that much more easier.

As some of you who have been on staff before, it's easier to be a member and act out "in the crowd" than it is to actually be the one having to reprimand a friend if he's gone beyond the line.

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When a position opens, look for it! We generally leave the applications up for little over a week, then deliberate for a bit, then announce it.

We don't black list people for asking anymore.. just don't be a nag, tis all we ask.
 
Shu said:
We don't black list people for asking anymore
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And we never really have, as long as I've been on staff. Unless it was a constant repeated thing. Saying casually that you'd like to be on staff is a world apart from asking an Admin, "So can I be on staff now?" The former is actually part of the reason I was able to snag a staff position, after being passed over in.... Gaia I think it was... twice.
 
Well it's not like i was begging or anything, i was just interested in knowing what i had to do to be considered in the future... for some reason i have the urge to pick up on new skills involving monitoring the forum.... :hmmm:

nice to know you guys are so helpful, too! :monster:
 
Shu said:
Active and Popular go hand in hand. So yes in a sense you have to be, in that section.
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I think we all know that's what Pooley meant. I don't think you do your chances any harm by being friends with members of the excellent moderating team. It's human nature to want to 'work' with people you like. Also I don't think you can rule out accusations of cliquishness either, although it has probably decreased, not that I'd dare to imply anything ofc. I'm not saying that sucking helps in particular either, it certainly hasn't helped certain members, again I'm not implying anything either, please do not infract me or ban me.
Also I think some people are blacklisted, these accusations will of course be denied, you have to deny them, I understand we cannot be trusted with the truth. But no one is going make DS a mod, or myself or James. I completely agree we shouldn't be given any positions of power, we certainly can't be trusted or respected either.

I think the best advice is to be relatively active and show that you are responsible, reliable etc. All those things people so frequently lie about on their CVs, you should aim to be. It also helps if you know a lot about the area you wish to moderate. The almighty CassinoChips, who was once a humble powerless member such as yourself or myself, did lots of Are Peeing. So when it was decided that a new Are Pee moderator was needed, they instantly recognised the brilliance and suitability of Mister CassinoChips. Likewise with Kandy-Sugar when she was made Gaia mod.

But like in life, you need to be honest to yourself, are you really the sort of person you will act in an objective way? That your like/dislikes of members won't influence your decisions. Plus you have to trawl through endless posts of absolute shit, 'I think Sephiroth is best' etc.
 
The reason I think you and Belazor were asked back was because this site needed some technical support and you guys offered it. It is a bit different than just being asked to join staff.
 
Also I think that if you "Ask" to be on Staff, you're here for the wrong reasons. Goes that way with any boards I'd imagine.

Join a site because you like the theme, want to get to know the people on it, the conversations, etc. The Modding and Staff work comes with time in getting to know your way around the forum, the people in it, and experience and maturity. But if it's just a mind-set to "Be in charge", meh, you're gonna be disappointed. Helping out, is all fine and dandy, but patience is a virtue.
 
DragonByte Tech said:
I think you are massively underestimating LG and the rather awesoms Admin Team to be honest =)
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You totally misunderstood what I meant. I meant you perform a technical service to the forum. You purpose is not mainly to moderate the posts on the forum. That is the job of the staff. There is no comparison.

I was on staff for several years. I am aware there is no black list.

Also, I have a lot respect for LG. Also, the Admin team knows I respect them as well.
 
DragonByte Tech said:
I'd have to disagree with the no comparison part to be honest - the staff also perform a service for the site, and they are also chosen for their skill and aptitude at providing that service.

Just because the roles require different abilities doesn't mean they don't both operate on the same principle - that regardless of any other factors, a persons ability to contribute to the site and perform the task required with skill and aptitude is the most important factor in determining whether or not they are chosen for a position.

It would be much like someone suggesting that as you were an RPG admin, you were not actually on staff - and that you somehow had easier entry requirements than a mod for instance. In your case that may be what happened - I wasn't around when you were promoted so i couldn't say, but i never got the impression that RPG admins were evaluated any differently from other staff members - with their ability to perform in the role being the primary and deciding factor.
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I actually did get that at times. I still stand by what I say though. I do not make a practice of comparing totally different types of jobs. All jobs have merit in their own right. But it does not mean that they can be compared.

I am sure that still doesn't make sense to you.
 
The process for choosing people in any role, whether it be RPG Admin, Mod or Tech Admin is the same - they are evaluated in terms of their ability to perform the role, and who has friends on staff, or whether or not someone on staff dislikes them is not a factor.
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Yes I agree with you there. The person needs to suit the position. The person does need to be able to work well with the rest of staff. Just as you would in a place of employment. Sorry to sidetrack thread though.
 
DragonByte Tech said:
It was being suggested that the criteria was being "liked" by staff and that some people could be "blacklisted" from getting on staff as an extension of that.
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I would say that it's a correct suggestion. At one point there was an actual blacklist thread in HQ though it was taken down because it was utter shite, of course I wouldn't expect you to know this because you weren't on staff at time - whether it was just archived or deleted, I don't know.
 
BustaMo said:
Also I think that if you "Ask" to be on Staff, you're here for the wrong reasons. Goes that way with any boards I'd imagine.
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this is one of the reasons why people give you that rap

If you're asking to become a staff member, more than likely, you just want to slap some people with some infractions, ban them, rule with an iron fist and inflate your e-peen like a water balloon.

It can be a lot of work to be a good moderator, and it's not always just come to the forums and post some, edit whatever you come by and fuck off. It's a lot easier to do the job this way when members use the Report feature to report shit posts, though.

I'm sure everyone appreciates it, Mark is usually on it pretty fast since he's most times on MSN (meaning he gets email alerts) whenever he's online.
 
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