Serious There is no god...

[Yaoi Master Gavin]

No doubt the title brought you here, maybe wondering why this isn't with other religious debates. Or maybe because who would've thought Gavin would start a serious topic here.

Warning: I don't give a shit about grammar, so be prepared for that. I will probably be using harsh language, more so as it gets longer I expect. Deal with it. This isn't a topic about things mentioned here like Doctor Who (yes, it will be mentioned); there is a greater meaning to it. Chances are good, the coherency of it will be lost and that I'll begin to ramble.

So I get up this morning, earlier than usual, a lot earlier, around 5 am. Considering I get up around noon, that's pretty fucking early. Then again my sleep schedule has been fucked lately. But that's not the point. So I can't get back to sleep, so I go upstairs to watch Doctor Who. Lately I've been rewatching all the ones since the ninth doctor, as well as some of the older ones like The Ark in Space.

Right now though, I'm finishing up with the 4th series, the one with Donna. I'm watching the one where that large beetle is on her back, feeding off the flux in time. And once again I get those thoughts. The same ones that come every time I watch something like this. The ones that ask "Why can't this be real?"

Yes, why can't it be real? Why can't I, or anyone else for that matter, go on an amazing journey through time and space with a timelord? But it's not just that show. Why can't I save the world from Kuja or Ultimecia or Sephiroth? Why can't I join a group of people fighting to stop the revival of the demon Altima?

Why the fuck are we stuck as these shit little humans? And why are we here on this pissant little world, working our lives away for nothing? There's no real answer.

The bible says we are made in the image of God. I think that we can all agree that that means we are, at best, copies of God. But no doubt, we will also agree that if we are, we are like the clones with extra limbs, bones missing; deformed wretched things that simply ask to be killed. But what if we aren't? What if we truly are copies of this God person? Then what does that mean?

It means that god is retarded. Severely retarded. Keep in mind though, that this hypothesis only works on the presumption that God exists. Because the way I look at it, if we are copies of this God, then he has the same sort of imagination as we do, the same desires. Why then can't we do things like this?

Hell, why can't we just have wings for fuck's sake. That alone would make things interesting. But we don't. We're these little humans with at best 100 year lifespans. Living those little blips of life in a shit world.

So then what do we do, even knowing this? What's the point of living? Is it only just to die? What then? I don't know. You don't know. Even those of you with faith. Think about it. You have 100 years to live. What do you do?

I find myself wanting to do something extraordinary. I want to be a companion of The Doctor. I want to save the world with a ragtag bunch of fuckers. I want to be that womanizing blond thief that stops his brother. But we can't, can we? Because in the end, we're only human. Lousy piece of shit humans.

And though I want more, I can't have it. And none of you can either.

So what's left? It's a world that people think is full of possibilities, but its not. Not when the human mind creates so much better.

What do you think, both they of useless faith and they of the philosophical mind?

 

[C i d]

Actually, I feel that this is a form of human dissatisfaction. Humans are naturally unsatisfied of what they have. We are possessive yet we are envious. Even the most perfect human in the world, I believe, is still unsatisfied of what he or she has. This argument is not necessarily related to the existence of God, so I am not going to focus on that. I believe in God, by the way.

First and foremost, I do not perceive you as weird for having such thought. I am sure most of us wants to be someone else, or having a different life. For example, after viewing an epic movie/story, I often envy their positions and want to become like them. I also sometimes imagine myself having super abilities like flying, etc. Yes this is normal.

Let me give an analogy through Final Fantasy. (FFVII and FFXII revenant wings spoilers)

Put yourselves in the shoes of FFVII world humans. Imagine there is this movie which was just released in Midgar theatres. The movie depicts a world filled with gentle animals. Even the wilder animals are only capable of physical combat. Basically, the beasts in the movie are not magical, and are not relatively dangerous. (i.e. this describes animals found in our world).

People in the FFVII world will be thinking. "Why can't we have a world filled with non-magical creatures who don't usually harm people? Ultima Weapon just destroyed my house the other day, and I lost all my priced possession. I wish creatures are weak like seen in those movies..."

Another example, since you talked about having wings. The aegyl race from FFXII revenant wings have limited lifespan, about 40 years. These Aegyls will be wondering, "Why can't I trade my wings for longer lifespans?"

If you still don't get what I am trying to convey, no matter what kind of life and world we live in, I personally believe that we will never be satisfied. Whether you are a rich man, a race with wings, a great hero, etc, I am sure we will have something to complain about.

Sometimes, we ought to count our blessings. Some animals have lifespan of less than a day. Even some microorganisms live for seconds. Humans are relatively on top of the ecosystem food web. We eat most animals. We do not need to fear for predators. Birds may be able to fly, but they are in constant fear of predators. We can move freely. Look at those trees. They can't even move...

Okay assume that our wishes of a better lifeform indeed come true. We may be happy for a short term period. But sooner or later, you will find yourself longing for your previous lifestyle or for a much better one.

Yes the human minds create so much better possibilities that are impossible in real life practice. These ideas (e.g. fantasy worlds, super abilities) impress people, because they are not the things we have. Have you ever desire to have no eyes? I doubt so. We would rather have gills or wings.

So in my opinion, the answer to why we can't be {something else we perceive better} is because what is 'better' for one individual is not necessarily good for another. It's a matter of perception and dissatisfaction. Since long ago, our brains have evolved to desire what it perceive is 'better' in the present. It's probably something to do with survival of the fittest. The greedy ones may survive better because they are more ambitious.

Think of it another way. Why did God create us this way? I believe, if we were to be perfect individuals with superb capabilities, we either:
1.) Desire for better capabilities. 'perfection' is an illusion. How perfect is perfect? One's perfect may not be another's. This brings us to the very same situation that we are facing now: greed and envy
2.) We are too good that we stop being ambitious. We become reluctant and reckless individuals. In the long run, I believe the society will come to ruin.

So actually, what we are now, isn't too bad isn't it? In fact, if you think positively, we are created or evolved into individuals who relatively are neither too perfect nor very bad, in general. As stated above, this is the 'just right' condition for better society development in the long run, as long as we are doing it correctly, IMO.

In the end, it comes to gratefulness. In fact, most of my argument above is based on this principle. I know it's difficult, it's the same for many others and myself. Just face it and be thankful of what we have

 

[SaShman]

I agree with Cid XIII-2. In that humans are naturally unsatisfied. I reckon everyone has wondered what it would be like to be able to fly at some point in their life. The problem is, if everyone could fly, the idea of flying would lose significance and it would just be taken for granted like the things we can already do; think, speak, write etc..

Why can't I save the world from Kuja or Ultimecia or Sephiroth?

If you're up for an adventure, you could try going to North Korea to save them from Kim Jong-il.




Also this.

 

[Ewan]

Cid pretty much nailed it. But I also want to add something.

I could be completely wrong here, but I know nothing about you other than that you're a 20 year old student according to your profile. My assumption may or may not be wrong, but would it be fair to say that it's quite likely you've had a "regular" upbringing like most people out there?

If so, what do you even know about life? If my assumption is correct, you've been growing up for the best part of it with Mummy and Daddy and you're just about the enter the real world where you actually have to begin living for yourself. Shit humans in a shit world, get real. I can't take statements like these seriously when you haven't even had the opportunity to know what you're talking about. How about you live your life and come back in 10-20 years and then tell me that wings would make life more interesting, because right now, I don't think you know either way.

But I could be wrong. You could have had a very different upbringing where you had to learn life's tough lessons and already have great life experience, but nothing in your post indicated this. And I don't know you.

But let's just say we lived in the world of FF9. We wouldn't know any different. And if your attitude was the same there as it is here, you wouldn't be saving the world, you'd be on the sidelines. Plus, there's no guarantee you would be able to do great things in a world like that anyway, people still have shit lives in these made up worlds.

My post probably sounds a lot meaner that it's supposed to sound, I'm not trying to make it sound that way. All I'm saying is, you could be right but you need to have a proper go before judging this life.

 

[Exoskeleton]

No doubt the title brought you here, maybe wondering why this isn't with other religious debates. Or maybe because who would've thought Gavin would start a serious topic here.

Warning: I don't give a shit about grammar, so be prepared for that. I will probably be using harsh language, more so as it gets longer I expect. Deal with it. This isn't a topic about things mentioned here like Doctor Who (yes, it will be mentioned); there is a greater meaning to it. Chances are good, the coherency of it will be lost and that I'll begin to ramble.

So I get up this morning, earlier than usual, a lot earlier, around 5 am. Considering I get up around noon, that's pretty fucking early. Then again my sleep schedule has been fucked lately. But that's not the point. So I can't get back to sleep, so I go upstairs to watch Doctor Who. Lately I've been rewatching all the ones since the ninth doctor, as well as some of the older ones like The Ark in Space.

Right now though, I'm finishing up with the 4th series, the one with Donna. I'm watching the one where that large beetle is on her back, feeding off the flux in time. And once again I get those thoughts. The same ones that come every time I watch something like this. The ones that ask "Why can't this be real?"

Yes, why can't it be real? Why can't I, or anyone else for that matter, go on an amazing journey through time and space with a timelord? But it's not just that show. Why can't I save the world from Kuja or Ultimecia or Sephiroth? Why can't I join a group of people fighting to stop the revival of the demon Altima?

Why the fuck are we stuck as these shit little humans? And why are we here on this pissant little world, working our lives away for nothing? There's no real answer.

The bible says we are made in the image of God. I think that we can all agree that that means we are, at best, copies of God. But no doubt, we will also agree that if we are, we are like the clones with extra limbs, bones missing; deformed wretched things that simply ask to be killed. But what if we aren't? What if we truly are copies of this God person? Then what does that mean?

It means that god is retarded. Severely retarded. Keep in mind though, that this hypothesis only works on the presumption that God exists. Because the way I look at it, if we are copies of this God, then he has the same sort of imagination as we do, the same desires. Why then can't we do things like this?

Hell, why can't we just have wings for fuck's sake. That alone would make things interesting. But we don't. We're these little humans with at best 100 year lifespans. Living those little blips of life in a shit world.

So then what do we do, even knowing this? What's the point of living? Is it only just to die? What then? I don't know. You don't know. Even those of you with faith. Think about it. You have 100 years to live. What do you do?

I find myself wanting to do something extraordinary. I want to be a companion of The Doctor. I want to save the world with a ragtag bunch of fuckers. I want to be that womanizing blond thief that stops his brother. But we can't, can we? Because in the end, we're only human. Lousy piece of shit humans.

And though I want more, I can't have it. And none of you can either.

So what's left? It's a world that people think is full of possibilities, but its not. Not when the human mind creates so much better.

What do you think, both they of useless faith and they of the philosophical mind?

I really wouldn't be expecting this kind of post from you Gaviny dearest XD

I mean what you're talking about is different worlds going through struggles and you wanting to save worlds and go on adventures. But you do know that you could do all of that here right? In our world right now it seems like many people are going through dark times. You could help save the world from Global Warming! If you want to travel there's always those missions to less fortunate countries where you could help take care of children and adults living in horrid conditions.

There's many oppurtunities for adventure and accomplishment in this world. It may not be as epic as TV makes it seem but it's better than nothing. How about becoming an actual doctor and saving people's lives that way?

To put a bit of a reality check on things though living in a world with Sephiroth, Ultimecia, Lucavi, and Kuja would be terrible. Just think about all of the suffering you might go through, along with having loved ones and yourself be in danger of death and suffering. It's also a loose chance that you'd be one of the 6-8 heroes fighting off the baddies, especially with the billions of others with complicated backstories living out here. And all of the physical fitness, lack of showering and possibly being used and manipulated in a ridiculous plot? Who seriously wants that?

I think life is full of possibilities. All you have to do is log off the computer, venture out into the cruel, cruel sunsad3, and meet new people, go to events, just have a good time. Sure life may not seem glamorous all the time, but there are more than enough opportunities to get out and do something with your life. The point of life is to just live it. It's up to you to determine how you live it sir!

All of these things you want only exist because we exist. The world of The Doctor, FF games, were all created in imaginations and thoughts of the creators. You're longing for something created by other "Lousy piece of shit humans". The imaginations of humans are powerful and can create so much. We can create languages, get ideas for inventing, and even create other worlds in our head alone. What more power could you want when you've got a brain?

Life is exciting when you've got friends, something you love to do as a hobby, and an amazing job. Get out there and life life ^^

 

[Howl]

Why the fuck are we stuck as these shit little humans? And why are we here on this pissant little world, working our lives away for nothing? There's no real answer.

Actually, humans are considerably extraordinary beings. The only problem is that we don't allow ourselves any form of mental ascension. In the modern day and age, if a person is given the choice between learning or wasting time on stupid shit, the average pinprick will choose the latter.

The bible says we are made in the image of God. I think that we can all agree that that means we are, at best, copies of God. But no doubt, we will also agree that if we are, we are like the clones with extra limbs, bones missing; deformed wretched things that simply ask to be killed. But what if we aren't? What if we truly are copies of this God person? Then what does that mean?

This has me a little bit perplexed and I still haven't found an answer that's easily acceptable. As a matter of fact, the bible indicates otherwise:
"Let US make man in OUR image after OUR likeness".


The most common answer that I've recieved is that the plural definition of God refers to the Holy Trinity. This is not a valid statement because the Son (the second member of the trinity), Jesus Christ, did not exist during the creation of the Earth.


Or perhaps it's something that's been mistranslated ten thousand times. I prefer to imagine that God is not one omnipotent being but that he is in fact something similar to us and that we are very alike.

It means that god is retarded. Severely retarded. Keep in mind though, that this hypothesis only works on the presumption that God exists. Because the way I look at it, if we are copies of this God, then he has the same sort of imagination as we do, the same desires. Why then can't we do things like this?

Hell, why can't we just have wings for fuck's sake. That alone would make things interesting. But we don't. We're these little humans with at best 100 year lifespans. Living those little blips of life in a shit world.

You can. Not to sound in any way socially unsound, but it's called "Astral Projection". I don't like to use that term; it makes the whole idea seem like a joke somehow. It's not some super stellar mental plane of existence. It's the capability of the human mind, given the room for expansion.
The simple explanation is that people can controll their dreams and experience them with a likeness comparable to reality.

So then what do we do, even knowing this? What's the point of living? Is it only just to die? What then? I don't know. You don't know. Even those of you with faith. Think about it. You have 100 years to live. What do you do?

I find myself wanting to do something extraordinary. I want to be a companion of The Doctor. I want to save the world with a ragtag bunch of fuckers. I want to be that womanizing blond thief that stops his brother. But we can't, can we? Because in the end, we're only human. Lousy piece of shit humans.

And though I want more, I can't have it. And none of you can either.

So what's left? It's a world that people think is full of possibilities, but its not. Not when the human mind creates so much better.

What do you think, both they of useless faith and they of the philosophical mind?

Most people don't have 100 years to live.
Reason being is that the healthcare industry keeps people sick in order to make a profit. That's a different topic...

I don't think that human beings are pieces of shit. If anyone is comparable to the likeness of shit, it is was a personal decision for that individual to have become that way. Life is what you make of it.

If you have a negative outlook on life and high expectations for the way things ought to be, then life is more than likely going to be a shitty experience for you.

Actually, I feel that this is a form of human dissatisfaction. Humans are naturally unsatisfied of what they have. We are possessive yet we are envious. Even the most perfect human in the world, I believe, is still unsatisfied of what he or she has. This argument is not necessarily related to the existence of God, so I am not going to focus on that. I believe in God, by the way.

God describes himself as being jealous. And we were made in his likeness, so there you have it.

 

[Yaoi Master Gavin]

I believe in God, by the way.

By all means, believe as you wish and feel free to bring it up in your musings. This goes for everyone. Unless you're a Jehovah's Witness. I chase you bastards away with a 6 ft sword.

Put yourselves in the shoes of FFVII world humans. Imagine there is this movie which was just released in Midgar theatres. The movie depicts a world filled with gentle animals. Even the wilder animals are only capable of physical combat. Basically, the beasts in the movie are not magical, and are not relatively dangerous. (i.e. this describes animals found in our world).

People in the FFVII world will be thinking. "Why can't we have a world filled with non-magical creatures who don't usually harm people? Ultima Weapon just destroyed my house the other day, and I lost all my priced possession. I wish creatures are weak like seen in those movies..."

This is perception based. Not saying mine isn't but some people want what they have. I still see your point though.

So in my opinion, the answer to why we can't be {something else we perceive better} is because what is 'better' for one individual is not necessarily good for another. It's a matter of perception and dissatisfaction.

So true. However, I say fuck the lot of you. If I get the chance, I'm pullign the switch.

Think of it another way. Why did God create us this way? I believe, if we were to be perfect individuals with superb capabilities, we either:
1.) Desire for better capabilities. 'perfection' is an illusion. How perfect is perfect? One's perfect may not be another's. This brings us to the very same situation that we are facing now: greed and envy
2.) We are too good that we stop being ambitious. We become reluctant and reckless individuals. In the long run, I believe the society will come to ruin.

Though I am slightly loathe to reference it, there was speech made by Mayuri Kurotsuchi on Bleach regarding perfection (here http://personalitycafe.com/intj-forum-scientists/842-perfection.html). If perfection is real, then there is nothing left to obtain. There is an idea of perfection and we work for that, but to achieve it means the loss of ambition. Once we have it that's the end.

So actually, what we are now, isn't too bad isn't it? In fact, if you think positively, we are created or evolved into individuals who relatively are neither too perfect nor very bad, in general. As stated above, this is the 'just right' condition for better society development in the long run, as long as we are doing it correctly, IMO.

Unfortunately, everytime I look at the human body, I can't help but think it's can't be a product of intelligence. I mean really. Look at our digestive systems.

In the end, it comes to gratefulness. In fact, most of my argument above is based on this principle. I know it's difficult, it's the same for many others and myself. Just face it and be thankful of what we have

Sometimes I wonder if I really have anything...

If you're up for an adventure, you could try going to North Korea to save them from Kim Jong-il.

You forget the fact that he's stepping down to make way for his son. Besides, you don't know that I'm in it to save people.

Cid pretty much nailed it. But I also want to add something.

I could be completely wrong here, but I know nothing about you other than that you're a 20 year old student according to your profile. My assumption may or may not be wrong, but would it be fair to say that it's quite likely you've had a "regular" upbringing like most people out there?

If so, what do you even know about life? If my assumption is correct, you've been growing up for the best part of it with Mummy and Daddy and you're just about the enter the real world where you actually have to begin living for yourself. Shit humans in a shit world, get real. I can't take statements like these seriously when you haven't even had the opportunity to know what you're talking about. How about you live your life and come back in 10-20 years and then tell me that wings would make life more interesting, because right now, I don't think you know either way.

But I could be wrong. You could have had a very different upbringing where you had to learn life's tough lessons and already have great life experience, but nothing in your post indicated this. And I don't know you.

Well then, gather round for story time, cause I'm gonna tell what I can be arsed to tell. Lets start with the first 5 years of my life. Yeah, for the most part normal middle class family. Stay at home mom and father who worked. But my father didn't give a damn about me. All he cared about were those goddamn cars of his. Oh he'd take me with him on trips, but I got left with someone. Is it any wonder I'm closer to mother?

Age six, I'm diagnosed with ADHD. Just fucking lovely. So what happens then? I'm shoved full of medication until I'm 14. And this was powerful shit. I don't remember 95% of what happened in those years and most of what I do remember are these little 5 second blips. But would you like to know what people saw? They saw the fucking living dead. They saw a kid with a blank stare that wouldn't talk, wouldn't socialize, almost didn't even exist. Just a placeholder. I had 8 years of my life taken away. 8 of what arguably could have been some of the best years of my life.

Seven, my cunt of a sister is born and the marriage starts to fall apart. Like it wasn't already. Two years later, it's finalized. I'm stuck with an unloving father who turned me into a zombie and my sister, a whiny screaming bitch. Of course she was just a baby but you know, that part of her never changed. Now instead of unintelligible words, they're fully formed. And the voice is more shrill.

Oh, but it gets worse. Now my father decides I'm worth something when he discovers he's taking care of two kids. But he's been out of my life for 9 years. To me, I have no father. Eventually he realizes this and then the attention goes to my sister, that arrogant little bitch. She gets all she ever wanted. So lets fast forward a bit.

I'm 14 and able to decide where I want to live. Where do you think I chose? I said fuck you and left for my mother's. And of course, my sister came along with me. And if you haven't gotten it already, his spoiling of her just made her intolerable. Nobody can stand her. Hell, when she started bitching about the fan for the millionth time (that's not a hyperbole), I smacked the shit out of her. After she looked at me as if how dare I she began crying waking up both mother and my stepfather. Of course, they had been about to do it themselves, so I got off clean.

Now if you've had any experience with divorces before, you know that most of the time I had to spend time with the other parent. This happened to be on alternating weekends. And the cycle continued. She got what she wanted but me.... I got fucked. See, he owns a farm. And I had to work on it. Now someone's gonna tell me to stop bitching because they've done it. Yeah well, there's a difference between working it and slaving on it. Cause that's what I was to him; I was a goddamn ****** (I ask for forgiveness for using that but I think that got what I'm saying across moreso than saying slave again. Again, forgive me) to him. Didn't matter if I had homework. Didn't matter if I was doing anything. I was up when he was at some ungodly hour and with him until sundown doing what he 'needed' me to do. In some small way, I should be grateful he didn't use the whip as much as they did back before the war. Yeah, there was a whip. Did you see that one coming?

So when my sister decided that she wasn't coming back to my mother's (for assorted reasons, most of them lies, such as mother being an addict and drug dealer and having abused my sister) I took the chance to get the hell out of there. I didn't go back for a year and a half. Saw my sister once and she knew I knew the truth; had a face as though she thought I would kill her. See, she had been spreading these rumours to her 'friend' (quotes cause she's the Karen of the group and everyone hates Karen) about how awful mother was. Of course my father took it all up and so did my stepmother and her daughters. Until they started spending time with her. And they wondered why mother didn't fight for my sister.

Then came the part where I realized that I'm gay. Kinda nice to finally figure it out. Except for the part where my father would probably kill me if he found out. Hell, he already hates the way I dress, the music I listen to, everything about me really. And given how he reacted to my stepmother suggesting my sister might become a lesbian... Oh and lets not forget my ex, the lying bastard. I honestly don't know what I saw in him; he's way too much like my sister. Then again, he never seemed that way when we were going out. But they're all like that aren't they? He has a real problem with his perception. See, everyone is a mirror for him and he criticizes them of having the very same flaws he has. Now some may be correct, but people realize he's talking about himself. In the end though, I dumped his ass once I realized him for the total asshole he was. Thinking back, I can't help but think he was using me. Or trying to anyway. If he was, he failed miserably at it. Maybe that part is typical, except for that part about us both being guys but thats just uncommon.

So that's what I can be arsed to tell. I'm damaged goods. 8 years of life stolen from me. A father who treated me like a slave and doesn't give a shit about me. An ex who tried to ruin any social connection I had (thank House he didn't with anyone I actually cared about). Almost feels like I'm at least middle aged with a coma inbetween.

But let's just say we lived in the world of FF9. We wouldn't know any different. And if your attitude was the same there as it is here, you wouldn't be saving the world, you'd be on the sidelines. Plus, there's no guarantee you would be able to do great things in a world like that anyway, people still have shit lives in these made up worlds.

Sir, if I was in the world of FFIX, I would be having the time of my life; this attitude would even exist. Cause I've got a bloodlust, and that Mist is only gonna make things fun. And as we all know, if I die I can be revived with a phoenix down, cause I'm not Aerith -cheers-.

My post probably sounds a lot meaner that it's supposed to sound, I'm not trying to make it sound that way. All I'm saying is, you could be right but you need to have a proper go before judging this life.

Didn't sound mean at all. Just matter of fact. And once you read this reply, you'll find questions answered. -'The More You Know' appear in the air behind in and that damn music plays-

I really wouldn't be expecting this kind of post from you Gaviny dearest XD

Course not Oli. I rarely get this philosophical on skype.

I mean what you're talking about is different worlds going through struggles and you wanting to save worlds and go on adventures. But you do know that you could do all of that here right? In our world right now it seems like many people are going through dark times. You could help save the world from Global Warming! If you want to travel there's always those missions to less fortunate countries where you could help take care of children and adults living in horrid conditions.

You presume I'm wanting to do it to save people. I hate people. Well most of them. And my soultion for Global Warming is Global Cooling, so people will still bitch. And missions? I am opposed to those. I wouldn't dream on going on one of those.

There's many oppurtunities for adventure and accomplishment in this world. It may not be as epic as TV makes it seem but it's better than nothing. How about becoming an actual doctor and saving people's lives that way?

If I became a doctor, it would be for money. Yes I'm greedy. I know this, now you do. I am no philanthropist.

To put a bit of a reality check on things though living in a world with Sephiroth, Ultimecia, Lucavi, and Kuja would be terrible. Just think about all of the suffering you might go through, along with having loved ones and yourself be in danger of death and suffering. It's also a loose chance that you'd be one of the 6-8 heroes fighting off the baddies, especially with the billions of others with complicated backstories living out here. And all of the physical fitness, lack of showering and possibly being used and manipulated in a ridiculous plot? Who seriously wants that?

-raises hand- Sounds like fun. Show me the sign-up sheets. One thing though. I wanna be a calculator. -evil grin-

And If I can't be part of the group fighting it, I'll start my own and fight it. Plotline be damned!

I think life is full of possibilities. All you have to do is log off the computer, venture out into the cruel, cruel sunsad3, and meet new people, go to events, just have a good time. Sure life may not seem glamorous all the time, but there are more than enough opportunities to get out and do something with your life. The point of life is to just live it. It's up to you to determine how you live it sir!

The sun is evil. Most people are shit. Most event are worthless or expensive.

All of these things you want only exist because we exist. The world of The Doctor, FF games, were all created in imaginations and thoughts of the creators. You're longing for something created by other "Lousy piece of shit humans". The imaginations of humans are powerful and can create so much. We can create languages, get ideas for inventing, and even create other worlds in our head alone. What more power could you want when you've got a brain?

The power to make what I think reality. When imagination become reality, that's the real magic at work in this world.

Life is exciting when you've got friends, something you love to do as a hobby, and an amazing job. Get out there and life life ^^

I need more friends and an amazing job...

Actually, humans are considerably extraordinary beings. The only problem is that we don't allow ourselves any form of mental ascension. In the modern day and age, if a person is given the choice between learning or wasting time on stupid shit, the average pinprick will choose the latter.

Depends on what I'd be learning. I'd rather not learn how to crochet when there's a class on swordfighting 1 hour later. I'll just sit in the bathroom and fap while I wait.

 

[Big Casino]

Wer stuck as shitty little humans? How sad. Your just wasting your time wishing all these crazy things could happen to you that your missing out on life. Fuck it doesnt even sound like you try to make the best of things. God isnt retarded. Your the one whos being a fool sitting around feeling sorry for yourself. boo hoooo poor gavin.
Wings on humans would make things more interesting? I actually laughed out loud there. You should cut down on the anime and the tv shows. Be happy youv even got legs. You could be rolling about in a fucking chair like hal or crawling about the ground. Besides, i bet man thought aeroplanes was a fantasy 300 years ago.

If you want to do something with your life then go out and bloody do it. You think something exciting is gonnae happen on final fantasy forums? That maybe sephy will take you to midgar to fight the shinra?
We make our own lives and we can make the the best of them or we can piss them away against a wall. Comparing life to an action movie or a similar type show is stupid. Movies and tv shows are theyre for entertainment and nothing more. It would fucking rock to be killing vampires with buffy or going commando on terrorists with jack bauer but its not gunna happen haha. Those things arent needed anyway for a person to have fun.
I realise i sound harsh but i have no sympathy for you at all. You just sound like a coward to me. Your not man enough to take action, your just sittin complaining and blaming a god you dont even believe in. Which really is pathetic.
Your telling your sob story about how things have been rough for you. Yer not only the one. Ive been through alot more and im not a negative person about it. Its how we deal with these things thats important.
You should just forget all that shit man and go do something with yourself. Do something crazy. By all means keep your imagination flowing but dont waste your life wishing you were in a fantasy.

 

[Marquis of Granby]

.....wow....really?

if this isnt flmn n trlln then i think you need to seriously consider wisin the fuck up. so hard done by you consider yourself middle class and you call your mum "mother"...i mean wtf is this? this has nothing to do with god it has everything to do with you being a bit of a geeky comicboy bastard. if its taken you 20 years to realise that final fantasy, x men, bleach etc isnt real then you have real issues. the world is full of posibilities if you get up off your arse and do something instead of moaning about not having wings or having a rat lady dragon knight as a pal. come on, get a grip and stop cluttering the site up with pish.

 

[Harlequin]

it could be worse as well, we could be dung beetles

 

[Abstract Debauchery]

Okay, life is boring, so what the fuck else is new? Thing is though, it doesn’t have to be that way. However, odds are if you life is boring, you helped make it that way. The simple fact of that matter is, you are a tiny human being on a big planet that is part of a fucking big ass universe. You’re tiny, you’re insignificant, and you are part of a human race that thrives on fucking each other in the ass to get on top. It’s time to quit being beta and start being alpha.

If you’re sitting around in your Mother’s basement doing fuck all with your life, that’s all you’ve got to look forward to. You can’t wait for this shit to come to you, you got to go out and snatch it. There’s not going to be an open invitation for success, fun, or shit that’s not boring by your standards, you’ve got to hunt this shit down and nip it right in the bud. Because like it or not, you’re part of the fucking system, and you can try and fight that all you want, but you’re never going to win.

We’re all cogs in the machine; some cogs are just bigger and more important than others. If you want exciting, start doing shit or learning shit that interests you, or get the fuck out of the way for the ones that can. Either start going with the flow, and get trampled by the ones that can accept and change what they are. Basically, shit or get the fuck off the pot. I can sit around bitching and moaning all day about how I’m bored, or how I think there should be more to life than this, but you know where that’s going to get me?

No fucking where.

So, I get the fuck off my ass and I find something to do, I find something “more” to life, and I own that shit. You think I want to sit here and fix toasters all fucking day? Hell the fuck no. I want be a Marine Biologist. I want to go swimming and study underwater organisms like Jacques Couseau. Yes, I know he wasn’t actually a Marine Biologist, but fuck your shit, he was awesome. I want to go and seek out new life and civilizations like motherfucking Captain Kirk, but I can’t, so fuck that.

It would be awesome as fuck to be Captain of the Starship Enterprise, but that’s not going to happen. Sure, I want to be the one that discovers new life in the universe. I want to be the one that finds new alien bitches, and I want to be the first to fuck it.

But like I said, that’s just not going to happen, so why get my expectations up? You can’t sit around daydreaming all fucking day. You’ve got to live in the fucking now, not the past, not the future, the now. The only things you can do at the moment is live life to the fullest, and start preparing for more awesome shit in the future. Because if you give up now, you’re fucked.

You’re beyond fucked, you’re fucking fucked. And no one wants to be fucking fucked. So you want shit to be more exciting? Then fucking do something about it. Because no one on the internet is going to fix your problem for you.

And odds are, 75% of the people in the world don’t care about your problems, and the other 25% are glad you have them.

When life gives you lemons, GET MAD. DEMAND TO SEE LIFE’S MANAGER, AND GIVE THOSE LEMONS BACK. YOU DON’T WANT ANY FUCKING LEMONS. MAKE LIFE RUE THE FUCKING DAY IT DECIDED TO GIVE YOU FUCKING LEMONS. YOU’RE GOING TO BURN THE BASTARDS HOUSE DOWN THAT GAVE YOU THE LEMONS… WITH THE FUCKING LEMONS. MAKE A COMBUSTIBLE FUCKING LEMON THAT BURNS PEOPLE’S HOUSES DOWN. YEAH.

TL;DR?: Start being alpha.

 

[Ewan]

That's just life I'm afraid. Everyone has problems, (some not as bad, some much much worse) they deal with it and move on. I did. My friends and family did as well. You should too.

Wishing for a fantasy world won't solve anything and will get you nowhere.

 

[C i d]

"Unfortunately, everytime I look at the human body, I can't help but think it's can't be a product of intelligence. I mean really. Look at our digestive systems."

Gavin AEtherae

Who are to say that our digestive systems is not a product of intelligence? Unless you tell me that you are a gastroenterologist or at least, a student majoring in biology, you are just making assumptions via mere observation.

The human body far more complex than you think it is. I dare say it is better than any factory in the world. What factory can last for 60+ years?

For a start, let's talk about the digestive system:
-We will die if we just put bulky, unbroken food material into our blood flow. Other than the obvious reasons, these substances are not soluble in water. They simply can't enter the cells for the cells to utilise.
-That is why our digestive system is here.
-Our digestive system has specialised cells that secrete enzymes. Enzymes break down these food into smaller pieces, in the molecular scale. This makes the food becomes basic and soluble. i.e. simple sugars, amino acids and fatty acids. Thus only this way they can be absorbed by the small intestines and then followed by the bloodstream.
-This answers why our digestive system is so 'disgusting' and oozing with goo/liquid. It consists of hydrochloric acid, bile and/or many types of enzymes.
-Then why do we need such an 'ugly' winding and twisting intestine? It increases surface area to volume ratio. If it was a perfect straight line, all the food would have fallen straight into the anus and get egested. There would have been no time for the intestines to digest and absorb all that food. You will suffer from malnutrition and death. This repeated coiling and folding of the intestines is necessary because humans have limited size.
-For the very same reason, the surface of intestines look rough and 'disgusting' because it further increases surface area to volume ratio. It looks rough because of villus (protrusions) and in turn, villus have microvilli (miniscule protrusions).
-Then why they look so irregular? Some parts are folded, some parts is a huge oval sac, some parts look linear, etc. Because these are specialised parts of the system. You CAN'T have ALL the enzymes/bile/acid together in one place.
-First step, the stomach is oval shape because it's more of a mixer of substances. You need to physically break down these food at the first step so the next organs can easily break them down chemically.
-It contains hydrochloric acid that kills bacteria. It's better to kill them as fast as possible. The acid is also necessary because the enzymes in the stomach need an acidic medium to work properly.
-The small intestine is divided into several sections. One section generally contains enzymes surviving in alkaline medium. The alkaline bile neutralises the acid from stomach and it also physically break down fats. Once the breaking down is done, the next section of the intestine which contains the villus will absorb the soluble food molecules
-Now don't come and tell me "why can't we have enzymes that can survive in any environment?", because, their functions result in these characteristics. This is chemistry of molecules. It has barely anything to do with human perfection. I won't go into the details.
-The absorbed food molecules enter the bloodstream and are metabolised/detoxified in the liver, before finally being supplied to the bloodstream for cell utilisation.
-Then what's the purpose of the large intestine that comes after the small intestine? It absorbs water and minerals from the undigested food. Don't you want watery faeces?
-The next question. Why is my digestive system not destroyed by those enzymes when I am not eating anything? Because the enzymes are not secreted/deactivated. Even if they are secreted, the proper medium of acid/bile is not released.
-Our body is really smart because when nerve impulses in the stomach detects a 'mass' of food, it will instruct the brain to send messengers to specialised cells to secrete the acid.
-There are also enzymes that activate other enzymes.
-Lastly, why is it so dark and unattractive in colour? It's because the specialised cells in here happen to have the composition and pigments that emit a wavelength that just happens to be an unappetising colour to human. It's mere perception, but it's important because many food with such colour are not edible or even poisonous. It's for your survival.

If I tell you how enzymes are exactly made in the body, you will be further amazed how intelligent our body is. But I can't be bothered to explain...

Cheers

 

[Yaoi Master Gavin]

Interesting...it seems that after my last post, people began completely missing the main point of the thread. The point being, why can't we?

This isn't some pity party for me, never was. Sure I can wish that reality was what we can imagine but I know it's not gonna happen. But that's all they ever will be, simple wishes that never come true.

So, disregarding the people who can't read the warning, those being the three just after my last post, let's get back on topic.

Why can't we be a part of that world?

 

[Captain Squee]

Why can't we? Science dictates that. If there is a god, or many gods, I don't think even they can surpass the laws of science that were there the very second the first anything existed. To believe there is any being that can just create is a but farfetched in my opinion, therefor the ability to do anything supernatural other than choose to move things and the ability to control all these neurons by fuck knows what means is also something nothing is capable of. There's my short version...

 

[Marquis of Granby]

Interesting...it seems that after my last post, people began completely missing the main point of the thread. The point being, why can't we?

its not that it was missed, you just didnt make a point in the first place.

why cant we be part of a fantasy world? do you really need to make a thread on finaru fantaji forums in order to comprehend this?

So, disregarding the people who can't read the warning, those being the three just after my last post, let's get back on topic.

disregarding the people who have basically told you to get a grip (thats everyone who has posted). why ask for opinions when you're going to disregard the ones that dont fit yours?

 

[Bambi]

Why can't we be a part of a different, better world? Because that's not how the world is. It's this. Im sure, if the likes of the FF's were real, those pixelated folks would be asking the same thing, seeing as those worlds aren't exactly hunky dory either

Maybe you'd of been happier living in London during the time of the plague? Or the great fire of London..? That might of got close to this exciting life your after

Go off to war fighting crusades in whatever year gone by

We're never satisfied with what we have and if the world did suddenly get 'better' it wouldn't be according to everyones standards. If we got wings, im sure we'd have summat to complain about, we'd probably evolve to have weak arsed legs and do nothing but fantasise about being able to run like the bloody horses do

Tl;dr. We will never be happy, ever, you just need to make the best of your own situation and make it better by your own standards. I can almost guarantee that faced with the life of say FFX, or this one, the majority of folk would choose this one

Oh look, my house just got flattened by a whale. Again. And oh shit, my whole family were in there too

 

[Yaoi Master Gavin]

Again, it seems people are missing the point. Let me say this as obviously as I can.

Why can we not live in that sort of world? Why are we in the world we have?

This isn't a matter of fact thread; its a speculative one. Tell me why you think we can't. Not why we don't, why we can't.

The matter of human dissatisfaction is the reason behind why we wish for it. I'm asking for the reason behind why it isn't.

Some sort of higher power exists and just plays around with us, destroying and recreating the word as he sees fit, and maybe these products of our imagination are like windows to the other toys? Or perhaps we chose this reality through our own early perceptions of life?

 

[Bambi]

Im pretty sure I covered it by saying 'we can't' and we wish for it for this very reason. We always want what we can't have

its nice to daydream about this fantasy stuff from time to time, but if we had it, we wouldn't know any better and would be fantasising about having something else Im sure

The human mind is brilliant. The greatest thing we were ever blessed with was imagination

 

[Big Casino]

Why can we not live in that sort of world? Why are we in the world we have?

That is jsut a stupid stuuuuuuuuupid question. The answer is obvious...because we dont live in that kinda world.
If your looking for some meaning of life or some crap your not gunna find it asking around fff in yer mums basement. Nor anywhere else for that matter.