Mature Content Sub-forum?

Mature Content Subforum

  • Yay

    Votes: 11 55.0%

  • Nay

    Votes: 9 45.0%
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Temple of the Ancients, Costa del Sol and the Sleeping Forest fis these requirements perfectly in my opinion. It's a nice idea, yes, but a whole sub forum really isn't necessary. Even putting tags over the post could suffice.

Example: [Mature] Help.

Kids are gonna find ways to get on this forum by signing up as 18 if they want. It'll probably lag the site for a while when simple [Mature] tags can sort this out and warn people that the topics covered in the thread aren't gonna be kittens and sunshine.
 
the staff tends to completely ignore any and all suggestions, so I don't see this getting far unless we put a lot of pressure on LG to actually take action. simply put this WOULD be useful as long it didn't become some mindless sex discussion board. the pedophilia thread is one example of a discussion that would merit being moved there. and spam threads that members use as an excuse to post questionable images of women. pretty much any mature content that isn't appropriate for a 12 year old new poster to show their parents.

please don't use a goddamn password on the board though. already irritated by the boards that have them already. "Hey guys can I talk about video games in Gold Saucer" OH NO ADAMANT YOU'RE NOT COOL ENOUGH TO POST THERE, GO AWAY.

we should be using a minimum post requirement of 100 or something, that would prevent spam while still allowing a variety of posters to actually contribute
 
Adamant said:
the staff tends to completely ignore any and all suggestions
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Adamant,

Please be mindful on such a rude comment, we at least give a detailed response to each reason as to why or why not it can be done. If the Suggestion is to far fetched, aka outside the bounds of Moderation or Admining we have nothing we can do but PM LG.

If this is a suggestive dig at your own inquiries, this is a different respect. Please be mindful next time.
 
hell yeah i turned 21 im well mature !

dunno like......i dont see the point as theres places like sleeping forest for that kinda stuff. Spammers tend to keep away from there anyway. I never chat personal stuff over forums so i cant really say it interests me. Though...i dont suppose theres any harm in it.
 
Alrighty, I'm well aware that SF and TotA are there for serious discussions and what not, but what's prevented myself from posting these such topics is the fact that, even if I put a little labeled [Mature] in title, there very well be people who are gonna post and not take the topic seriously.

ESPECIALLY with topics of the sexual nature where it makes someone vulnerable to open up about their first time, or having issues with their lover that they need advice. They don't just want to spill the beans and air their dirty laundry for the whole world to see. Much less if they DID, those who didn't post could look at it, giggle at their expense and be on their way without so much as an idea to offer.

This is my main reasoning for the whole sub-forum idea. Mature/Sexual Content is of a very touchy nature. To actually open up about stuff like that and leaving yourself vulnerable to the whole forum is a very brave thing to do, because you just leave it all out there. This is why I want the sub-forum, to share your intimate discussions with those who are (maybe) in a same place as you, and will take you seriously. And that this way you don't have to worry about people you may not get on with (n00bs, trolls, what have you) knowing about this stuff.

Of course you run the risk of stuff like people talking about it on msn. Yeah you run the risk of people speading the password in question (which would be useless unless they were in the right usergroup to begin with), you do. With sexual natured topics and ideas, you run a lot of risks. But if anybody else is willing to give it a shot or trial run in the least, I'd be willing to put myself out. How about you?

....and as Mod I would infract/warn anybody who posts porn that's at least not tasteful. :mokken:
 
That sounds like it might work if all the participants were model members(which is currently like 3 maybe) and very mature but it's simply impossible to standardise maturity or evaluate whether or not someone is mature enough or not for the section, not to mention it does create the possibility of segregating members.
 
We already have a forum for serious discussions and a "Mature Content" forum could be quite misleading and some people might attempt to abuse it. It would also be required to heavily moderate it. If it is just to keep minors away, well they will always find a way to get inside by lying about their age and whatnot. Little cheating fuckers... :hmph:

Now seriously, when kids these days have access to internet believe me when I say that most of them know way more about some "stuff" that most of us could ever imagine.

I remember when I was a kid, like a 10 years old kid and all I did was coloring, drawing, playing with other kids and watching cartoons. Kids nowadays have cellphones, internet, myspace and facebook! And some of them even pose as if they were older! What happened to childhood? (hmm an interesting topic for a debate....)

What kind of world are we living in?! :gasp:

Honestly this would bring more issues than solutions, but that's just me. If you want a serious reply and someone does not reacts with a serious response, you can either ask him/her to stay out of the thread or ignore him/her. It is not actually that hard to ignore someone.

Besides...this site has way too many sub-forums...
 
Well, I'm 100% against this idea. We see topics of mature nature in Gaia already, without a "mature content" forum. Adding a subsection just means more work for me :hmph: (and Warbs and the rest of staff). Not to mention, mature content isn't filtered anyways. As people have already stated, the only mature content that isn't allowed to be posted is porn, and a mature section sort of promotes that, in which we don't.

An age restriction would be bad as well, as people would (and people already do anyways) lie about their actual age. The last thing we should be doing is policing age on the forum. It's okay for people in their near 30's (like myself) to converse in the same topics as Mona (I'm 11!!!!!!). We don't need Mona posting a false age on a dupe account just so she can see things that I'm old enough to see.

It was mentioned that some of age aren't mature enough anyways. Age doesn't dictate maturity, even though it makes for a pretty solid arguement. We have staff members in their high teens here that are much more mature than those in their 20's already.

Bottom line, I'm not for it. If you want to go to a more adult oriented site for your porn fix, I'm sure there is a site better suited for you out there. :griin:
 
FF forum.

We can find porn anywhere else; we wouldn't come to FFF for it.

Everyone here's too friendly anyway - besides jokes, no one would ask for sex tips. They'd do it on MSN.

Did this on another forum called FFH way back when. Disaster.

Long and short of it; no need and distasteful. Spam serves this purpose anyway.
 
Well what is it about?.......that would require it to be put in its own sub forum Channi?

Porn is the only thing missing from this site to make it an all encompassing place......its the complete Zero tolerance of porn about FFF that makes such a great place, SF is adequate for any and all mature discussions.

Maybe you should present a list of topics you feel need to be discussed that involve "mature content" that cant be displayed on the sites various areas SF, Temple of the ancients and the like.
 
The point that I'm trying to make here, is that there is a potential list of topics that could be discussed upon, and that maybe they don't belong out in the open. Talking in a sexual nature makes people vulnerable, so they need to feel that what they're discussing is going to be kept in strict confidence. And when stuff is just left out in SF or TotA, anyone can look at it and ridicule them for it.

Such General topics include:

Your first time: Who, Where, When, Why
How many sexual Partners have you had?
How often do you have sex?
Do you prefer to have one monogomous partner, or several one night stands?
Where's the craziest place you've done it?
What's your favourite position?
Fantasies, the good, the bad, and the crazy?
Fetishes, the good, the bad and the ugly?
Women's Orgasm: The Mystery and how to find it

Help/Personal questions can include:

For how long is sex supposed to hurt?
We're having a dry spell, how do you get out?
How do you spice things up without scaring him/her?
Have you ever tried role-playing and does it work?
Help! My bf/gf doesn't give good oral, tips?

And basically many questions revolving around sex itself, what's safe and what isn't, good ways to prevent bad things from happen. What feels good and what does and in what position.

Vaginal Sex
Oral Sex
Anal Sex

....This is all of cource pending that people would actually feel comfortable talking about these things, which is why I think that they deserve their own sub form. I have no doubt that if I just randomly stuck in a topic labeled: "Where's the craziest place that you've had sex" in just SF, there are a lot of people that would be uncomfortable with it being there.. and would feel uncomfortable just having to look at the title in the subforum.

Have I made my case yet, or do people still need convincing? Because this isn't about porn, it's about a meaningful discussion between people who (should) trust eachother to keep secrets like this.
 
Porn or not, I just don't see it being needed here. Granted a lot of things on FFF isn't about Final Fantasy, but this is like going to the other far end in extremes. I can't speak for others, but I know it's not something I want here.

If anything, why not join a forum where the focus is about these kinds of things?
 
You're not really going to get any type of intelligent discussion with those type of subjects. At least, not on a gaming forum. Personally, I just don't see it happening. Odds are if someone needs a question like that answered, they'll just ask a friend on MSN, or better yet, in real life. Not complete and total strangers on the interwebz.

Besides, what's to stop people from lying about their age and viewing them anyway? No offense, but every potential thread subject that you just listed above is a joke. It just sounds like a place to sit back and talk about sex all day. I would imagine that if this sub forum was made, it would only be posted in by a select few people, and not used very often.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea. However, for a forum that's dedicated to a vidya game, it's not exactly a home run. You're more or less preaching to the wrong choir here.
 
It sounds like what you really want is a "Favorites & Worst" list lol

I dont want seem like lm telling what to do, but if thats what you want to discuss:why are here at FFF?........there are other places for that sort of stuff, there is just no need for it to be involved in a site inspired by a thing that has nothing to do with it.

In spite of what say here I no real problem with this kind of thing, just trying to offer some scrutiny for you..........the overwhelming feeling is "NO" though, push ahead it could b interesting?
 
Well I still really don't see the point of adding a sub-forum, honestly because this forum is mainly for discussing about Final Fantasy. Other discussions are merely to complement the main purpose of the forum.

Riku/Kerrigan mentioned that this kind of forum was once suggested and implemented in FFH. For those who don't remember what FFH was, well FFH stands for Final Fantasy Haven, a place created when several of our members wanted some time outside of FFF and for several reasons (not necessary to go into deeper details).

My point here is, since the overall community was composed of former FFF members who migrated back and forth between sites, if the idea didn't work there what makes us believe it could work here? Most of FFH members came back to FFF anyways.

As Butt-Head also mentioned and I quote:
Well, I'm 100% against this idea. We see topics of mature nature in Gaia already, without a "mature content" forum. Adding a subsection just means more work for me :hmph: (and Warbs and the rest of staff). Not to mention, mature content isn't filtered anyways. As people have already stated, the only mature content that isn't allowed to be posted is porn, and a mature section sort of promotes that, in which we don't.
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I still haven't seen any moderator volunteering to take responsibility for this possible "headache". Or let me rephrase... hey moderators...who doesn't mind some extra weight on your current load?

I've known this community for long and I am damn sure that you just need to give some gasoline for things to blow out of proportion, especially when it comes to "mature content" discussions.

It would basically serve the same purpose to add [Mature] next to the title of the thread as a mere notification. If anyone doesn't want to see it, then they won't. We don't need to turn FFF into the next LSD/LOCP (those who are old members in FFF will get the idea) for kicks.

No offense Channy, but I also concur with Majere. Using your topic suggestions as a guide to determine the overall possible content of the subforum, How would it benefit the community in general to have a sub-forum based on sex? That kind of sub forum as well as its content would required to be heavily moderated.

If people wanted to talk about sex, they would have joined a forum dedicated to sex, not a Final Fantasy discussion board.

Also, strict confidence? In a forum? Please... Secrets? You have PMs for that. All content that is submitted in an internet forum is considered as public and will not be, by any means, private. If someone wants to make fun of anyone based on discussions revolving around sex well...guess what? They will still make fun of you even if you build a giant wall to keep minors outside, and people might lie about their age just to get in.

Info can be leaked, people will get pissed, drama will spring, trolls will be fed...you get the idea.

You know what this forum really needs? LESS sub forums. We have sub forums for everything....is like a fucking tumor growing out of proportion. No wonder why some people become territorial and avoid certain regions of the site.
 
I've been to a forum where we had a mature content (albeit that one had a lot more porn) and it got on fine. I'm not saying I'm trying to open up an entirely new section for the website, it's just a subforum that would only be viewable via membership, and probably just another sub forum on SF.

I'm not trying to turn this into a sex forum, but FF isn't the most active topic on the forum. Despite it being an FFF, the most active sections are the General Chat or Spam sections. I just don't see the problem. -shrug-

edit: feck.. now I have to read Cole's post. >.>
 
lol No body thinks......well maybe they do think you are trying turn it in to a Porn site?

FF may not be that active but it is generally why most people are here........and not every body has found there inner deviant or is in touch with there depraved side.
 
The point I'm making with this topic is that this discussion is already going on without a "mature content" section. We don't restrict of filter this information. People are free to talk about their sexual issues if they like. Most people aren't comfortable talking about such topics, hence you don't see them. We never deleted these topics, they never existed on this forum to begin with.

I'll be totally honest with you, I have many friends on this forum, none of which I would expect to discuss such topics with. If these topics ever get presented, then I give my thoughts and reasons, as I have experience with such things. I don't expect to go out to dinner and chit chat with these people, and they all know this as well, so these topics never get discussed. Someone may make a thread saying "I want this girl to have sex with me, but she won't put out" or something general like that. As I said, I'll throw out my thoughts, the rest is up to them. What they do is their business, I don't need to know what positions they will do and what order they'll do them.

This stuff exists on the forum, it has never and will never be filtered (unless it gets that far out of hand with graphic nature). Hence I mentioned that porn is the only thing that really doesn't exist and does get filtered on this forum. Some new members will take this "mature content" to mean they are allowed to post pornographic links and/or material. This equates to more staff action, which can be simply counteracted by not allowing it in the first place. The "mature content" sub-forum is unnecessary and more than it's worth, and for basically stuff that's already allowed in The Sleeping Forest and Temple of the Ancients.
 
Alright, suggestion put through the process. As mentioned before this has been brought up on separate occasions, at this point it's a moot discussion.

At this point it is only giving folks more of a post count boost than anything else.

Closing this thread and concluding that there will be no sub forum added for the following reasons:

1) Password means a more segregated community
2) No way to tell if the person on the other end is faking their age
3) Already a place for "Love and everything that comes with it" AKA temple of the ancients.
4) Over moderation of such discussions/lack of manpower for a new separate sub forum
*5) Lastly posting of pornographic material by any member warrants a 30 point infraction, meaning good bye forever.

With 5 means, a lot of newer folks could be baited into it.

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