Edge gives Final Fantasy XIII a 5 [3/5]

[The Illusive Man]

By claiming that the Wii isn't a console, you're practically saying that Mario and Zelda aren't games. Just because it's labeled differently, doesn't mean that it isn't a gaming system. Also, there are plenty of fun single player games for it. It isn't the systems fault that you can't have a fun time playing single player games.

The new mario games aren't games as they used to be, and the Wii is often marketted at family audiences for its party aspect rather than its Serious "Gamer" aspect that the super nintendo, n64 or the game cube were once aimed.

As an old skool Gamer, I will never view the Wii as a serious "gaming" system because its not targetted at Gamers as such, It's more a victim of its own marketting scheme when it comes to how people view it, and any Gamer that has been gaming since the 80's/90's will never view the Wii as a serious Gaming console contender anyway.

Afterall, you dont see sony or microsoft marketting all the silly little toys such as the wii fit board on every advert now do you?

 

[Abstract Debauchery]

Sure, it's not a serious system. It was never designed to be. Even though it is a sorry excuse for a gaming console, it doesn't change the fact that it is. (Although, I wish it did.)

 

[The Illusive Man]

So you'll forgive me for the fact that I refuse to call it a gaming console and merely refer to it as a family entertainment system then, afterall Nintendo chose to shun us serious gamers by targetting a different audience, so I choose to not call there Toy a gaming console

 

[Ohri-Jin]

The Wii is a gaming console for younger people

 

[Abstract Debauchery]

So you'll forgive me for the fact that I refuse to call it a gaming console and merely refer to it as a family entertainment system then, afterall Nintendo chose to shun us serious gamers by targetting a different audience, so I choose to not call there Toy a gaming console

Yeah, I'll forgive you. I don't like admitting it myself, but even if it's a toy, and a sorry excuse for a gaming console, it is one.

After all, every now and then it has a good game. (No More Heroes 1 & 2, and Zelda.)

 

[ScratchCardGlory]

To be quite honist ii dont care for reviews from Edge there to harsh of a critic.

tbh i only get my reviews from Game Trailers, there pretty much on the ball most of the time

 

[FinalHeart]

I find myself being extremely biased as in dissing reviews that hate FFXIII and loving the ones that like it. It's obvious what choice I've made about the game so far, even if I haven't played it.

I think part of the problem lies in the fact that there are almost as many rabid ANTI-FF fans as there are rabid FF fans. Those guys feed on these reviews like dung beetles feed off of crap.

 

[L]

I can't help but notice that the 360 version gets a lower score than the ps3, is this because ps3 is getting more extras or what?

I wouldn't be surprised, these Japanese game developers always pull that kind of shit.

a perfect example would be Tales of Vesperia, which was supposed to be an Xbox 360 Exclusive release.

Now they have it for PS3 in Japan and are fucking us in the ass just like they did with the Japanese version of Tales of Symphonia, which had extra content (including more cutscenes relevant to character backstories, more outfits, etc.) not included in the English release.

 

[Sir Kenneth]

The new mario games aren't games as they used to be, and the Wii is often marketted at family audiences for its party aspect rather than its Serious "Gamer" aspect that the super nintendo, n64 or the game cube were once aimed.

As an old skool Gamer, I will never view the Wii as a serious "gaming" system because its not targetted at Gamers as such, It's more a victim of its own marketting scheme when it comes to how people view it, and any Gamer that has been gaming since the 80's/90's will never view the Wii as a serious Gaming console contender anyway.

Afterall, you dont see sony or microsoft marketting all the silly little toys such as the wii fit board on every advert now do you?

Guess I'm not a "serious" gamer then! But now that we're making brash generalisations about other people anyway, I guess I might as well say that if you aren't just a little bit excited about the upcoming Zelda, Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid Prime: Other M, Xenoblade, or The Last Story, then you probably haven't been gaming since the 80s/90s.

 

[The Illusive Man]

Guess I'm not a "serious" gamer then! But now that we're making brash generalisations about other people anyway, I guess I might as well say that if you aren't just a little bit excited about the upcoming Zelda, Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid Prime: Other M, Xenoblade, or The Last Story, then you probably haven't been gaming since the 80s/90s.

Like I said, I'm not excited because they are not the same as they once were, Mario has become nothing more than a churned out plaything, that has been dumbed down chronically in terms of gameplay to the point where a small child could probably complete it within a play through, Zelda has lost all its exploration aspect and Metroid is no longer about trying to beat that really difficult boss.

To note I also said MOST serious gamers like myself Abhor the Wii because Nintendo decided to target a different audience and appear to have shunned there original fanbase almost completely.

And for the record, I'd much sooner put on an old Mario or Zelda game than play the new stuff on the Wii because they actually have character and some kind of challenge, unlike the souless product they have become now.

 

[Dvaz2]

I wonder what they will rate XIII Versus....or is it the same to them? .....What"s the difference from XIII and XIII Versus?

 

[Lady Turquoise]

To be honest, that review surprises me. No, I haven't played the game, but it looked amazing.

 

[Linnaete]

I wonder what they will rate XIII Versus....or is it the same to them? .....What"s the difference from XIII and XIII Versus?

They're two different games set in a similar universe but with their own individual stories and characters. Versus's gameplay is more Kingdom Hearts-like as opposed to FFXIII's.

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This is my personal stance on the reviews here. I think Edge's 5/10 is a rather harsh score considering from what I've read (and that's a lot), it doesn't seem like a mediocre, average game at all. There are plenty of things to praise about the game. A 5/10 is a bit of an over-critical score. As for GamesRadar's 10/10 score, I see that as being too generous. It just sounds a little unrealistic to me. I don't like the sound of the minimalism that much and there have been complaints on other issues- so FFXIII does not seem to be a perfect game at all.

 

[Stoic Hero]

The game deserves more than a 5. Even if you gave the Story a 0, the Presentation is fantastic. There's no denying the game looks incredible. And whether or not you like the battle system is one thing, but the system isn't broken. It's a playable, gorgeous game. That's at least a 7 in my book. At the very least.

 

[Totoro]

I think it's difficult to rate/criticise or even comment on other ratings without playing the game. So I'll wait until I've played it before I pass comment.

However not many games get as low as 5/10, which probably seems quite harsh given the consensus of other scores.

 

[Joyful Blue]

I'm not too surprised by this score, in fact I'd have been more surprised if it had got a 10. Although I haven't played the game yet the complaints that magazines have seem all too familiar, and, if this was any other game then I may well just accept what the critics have to say. Since I've been waiting so long for this though I'm a little more sceptical in my views on the ratings that the game is receiving.

All too often the number one complaint seems to be linearity, since when is that a negative word? I'm well aware that freedom can really enhance a game at times but why do games like Bayonetta (a great game, sure) get scores of around 9/10 when clearly it's linearity all the way? It makes me facepalm every time I see this down as a negative point, though I can understand that what some have essentially called a 20 hour tutorial may not be to everybody's taste.

At the end of the day I'e always liked exploring things in Final Fantasy games but the thing that draws me in personally is the storyline and characters, so I have pretty high hopes for FFXIII. I've been playing through FFX the past few days and the fact that you do travel in a straight line doesn't bother me in the slightest; in fact, I've been playing ti alongside FFVIII and there seems very little difference other than a world map being present. My one fear was the supposed lack of an airship until yesterday, when I realised there really is no need for one. Sure, you got on in X but at the end fo the day you didn't actually fly it around, instead you got pretty much what you did from XIII: basically a little checkpoint that lists possible locations and you beam there. Does it make it different? Yes. Do I miss the world map? Hell yes. Does it ruin the game? Not at all.

 

[FinalHeart]

Just thought I'd point out that a 5/10 seems harsh when you read the review. The reviewer's complaint is certainly a major one, but it's not enough to take half of the score off. Especially since that one complaint may actually be good for some people.

I guess we just have to take it for what it is; an opinion.

 

[Harlequin]

Haha, but yeah, ouch at the score.

It's probably worth mentioning that Egde don't actually like giving games a score. They feel it's an arbitrary method of measuring how good a game actually is seeing as any reader can more or less tell how good a game is by the information gleaned in the review and I'd have to agree with them. Throwing a score at a game is measuring it up to other games. This way of thinking is in gaming is archaic, you wouldn't judge a piece of art on how it measures up to another. Scoring it only makes rapid fanboys/girls foam at the mouth and spam us with their grievances.

That being said, 5!?!? I you crazy Edge!

I usually trust Edge's critique so this is rather worrying for me...

 

[Beyer]

5/10 does seem harsh.
This actually came up at school today when a friend of mine (typical Halo/Cod lover) asked me if I was going to get FF13. I said yes and expressed my great excitement over it having only seen trailers and been on official sites.
He then told me that some show gave a review on it last night and gave it a low score because of it's linear gameplay. I told him that I didn't care about that and I usually get lost if their isn't some boundaries and sandbox games overwhelm me.
He then went on to say that I was too dumb for quality games and that he is right and that the storyline looks shit as well and that he would never buy it. I told him to keep his opinion with people who will agree because right now, I could punch you because you and your Cod shitheads think that you know exactly what is a good game and what is not. (bad recent experiences, I was losing my temper)

BUT ANYWAY! It is all about opinion. It may seem like I am forcing my opinion with the whole Cod shithead incident above but really, I was over him pushing his beliefs of what is good and bad as fact and that I don't care whether he likes it or not. I simply lost my temper.

I don't expect an amazing storyline from FF13 for some reason, I hear it is not as good as previous ones and so I expect not to cry like I did in 10 or scream with shock like I did in 7 but I am hoping for a good storyline and nothing too anti-climactic.

overall, it is all about opinion and mine is that 5/10 is harsh.