Two/Three/Four heads are better than One?

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So I was just writing up my character's Cloister of Trials in Besaid (FFX RP) when I thought about something.

And I asked Mark to double check.

Msn said:
ღ Viktoria ღ kill the lights says:
*I can't remember if you get battles in the Cloisters :hmmm:
Mark; I watch another part of you go (8) says:
*In FFX? No you do not :gasp:
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now this brought up the main question.



Is it really vital for a guardian to enter the Trials with a Summoner when the Summoner isn't in any actual physical danger?

Sure, I can understand that two heads are better than one (or Seven as is the eventual case with Yuna's lot) but could a Summoner get through the trials alone?

What do you guys think?

(No idea if there's already a thread on this. I couldn't find one)
 
Maybe they were there to help carry the summoner out after receiving the Aeon, since it seems like a pretty draining experience, after all, Yuna was carried by Kimahri/Tidus :hmmm:

Or maybe they were just there to help with the puzzles in the cloister of trails, since that would make the most sense, at least, to my mind xD
 
I was wondeing that too. I don't think it is THAT important for the guardians to follow Yuna inside each temple. I agree that 2 heads are better than 1, but it's not like they had to solve some insanely difficult puzzle that required loads of teamwork.
 
Interesting question there...

I suppose it was mainly because Tidus was the character that you control throughout the game when not in a battle, as it was from his point of view that the story was told. So in order to have you running around as Tidus you needed Tidus to be in the cloister, and therefore it made sense for them to say that the guardians should all be in there as well as the summoners.

Alternatively it might be that the guardians were there to prevent summoners from fainting, getting lost, or accidentally setting themselves on fire / being electrocuted / falling to their deaths. Some of the trials, though there were no monsters to fight, did have a hazard of some sorts that might have caused some nasty accidents if there wasn't a guardian to protect the summoner inside.

Within the first cloister (the easiest one with no real hazard)
Yuna faints and falls down the stairs
... If
Kimahri and the others weren't there
at that point she may have bashed her head open on the floor and bled to death!
 
Yes, it's very vital. Reason being was because if Kihmari had not been there to catch Yuna falling off the stairs, our heroine would have broken her neck and that'd be the end of Final Fantasy X. =]

No, but in all seriousness, I really don't know. It's probably just a standard procedure or for the sake of being proper. Sort of like just being there just in case any service was needed or any moral support. Naturally they're the guardians so wherever she goes, they follow. It's not really explained - we just sorta take it how it is as players.
 
Well, as the nature of FFX, a lot of things were done by tradition or order of Yevon. Is it really such a dangerous place that a summoner would need her guardians? Not really, even if Yuna falls down the stairs, it's not a danger to her life.

Even when in the Besaid Cloister of Trials, Tidus asked Wakka if it's "particularly dangerous in there", and Wakka said "sometimes, yes". I think more than anything, it was a concern of the Fayth and the Aeon being embedded into her being. But in the history of Yevon, did the Aeon acquisition process kill its potential summoner? I don't think so, but we'd have no real way of knowing for sure. Sort of a better to be safe than sorry scenerio, I imagine.
 
I think they were needed. I mean, yeah there were no battles but remember that the trials weren't exactly a walk in the park. The Temple in Kilika was full of flames and the one in Macalania could easily have seen Yuna fall off or something like that.

Also, seeing as how the summoners are of vital importance, you would never let the one you're guarding out of your sight. I suppose it doesn't happen when they're praying to the Fayth, but the chamber didn't have fiery traps, icy platforms or extremely high voltage lightning to potentially kill you. :gasp:
 
Whoa, whoa, whoa... You guys got it all wrong.

Replay the game all the way until Tidus finishes Besaid's cloister and enters the final room with Wakka. It's incredibly subtly hinted at there.

Guardians go in to ensure no one else goes in.

Yes, yes, Yevon is in the blood of these people practically, and the monks will yell at you, but really, it's guaranteed there'll be that one ass every once in a while who wants to sneak in. Such as Tidus. :P
 
I've never thought about this before :gasp:

I guess the Guardians protect their Summoners throughout their journey, so they 'earn' the right to be able to enter the trials whereas normal civies can't. I guess they are there to help a lendinghand, make sure the summoners nt abit thick and help with the trials. Imagine if Barthello was the Summoner and Dona the Guardian and he had to go in alone. He'd still be in there now

The Guardian is always with their Summoner too I guess, and that includes the trails

That's what I think anyway
 
I agree with most of the posts here. In some of the trials, there is horrible death traps. The guardians are also used to stop randomers going in to the temple, but it still isn't REALLY necessary for the guardians to be with the summoner. They are just doing what Yevon told them to, through a holy bible kind of thing.
 
I think its a little bit of a few things that causes the Guardians to follow the summoner into the Cloister of Trials.

1. Sometimes there are traps and even puzzles that may require a second pair of eyes or even another opinion in order to solve, there have also been dangerous monster known to lurk within some of the trials to serve as a test against both guardian and summoner alike (Zanarkand Ruins)

2. Sometimes they are just there for moral support and to give the summoner a much needed confidence boost, especially with Yuna who often seems to falter from time to time in confidence, it does often help to have her guardians around.

3. Guardians are oath bound to protect the summoner with there very lives, and are more than willing to interviene if they feel there summoner may be in mortal danger.

4. Guardians and there summoners tend to share a special bond that strengthens with each trial as often made clear with the closeness of Kimari, Wakka and Lulu to Yuna, and the bond that develops between Yuna and Rikku, Tidus and Auron as they serve as her guardians too.

Think that pretty much covers it.
 
They are necessary because they wouldn't know whether or not the cloister of trials had monsters in it. All the guardians would know that when they had previously been to whatever cloister, at that time it had monsters in it. And when Yuna visits a cloister, something fairly important has just happened. Operation Mi'hen,
killing Seymour
etc etc, there's normally a good reason for Yuna to be accompanied, either for emotional support or for protection from people.
 
yeah thats right Gaurdians are there for emotional support and to make sure the summoner is safe and able to conqure/ recieve there aeon I suppose it just depends on how yuo look at it it might just be athing gaurdians have to do as a duty y'know likw them folks at that palace in england standin' around all day just to gaurd some irrelevant older persson and her hangers on duty ,its a killer
 
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