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Weapon XIV

Weapon XIV

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Did you ever question whether anything around you is real?

Do you ever think that it actually matters the way people see you as a person?

Well, it may well be possible if this entire world is just a fabrication of your mind, nobody may be real, you may just be in a coma like state and created your own world in your mind to give you the sense that people are around you, do you ever wonder what other people see through their own eyes?

Maybe they don't even exist, you may see somebody who looks all happy, when in reality they are just another fabrication of your mind, all that exists could actually be nothing, or it may all make sense soon.
 
some people see me as a terrorist bombing the world in the future,thats not so cool.Everyone says i look like one,even my family,hell no im not a terrorist 4 real.its the beard that brings it up.
 
Of course everything's real. Being in a dream and being in reality are two entirely different things, and you can feel the difference.

:mandi: Trust a gamer to ask if everything is real or not.
 
I'm sure the majority of people will agree with me other than the odd nut that everything around us is real. I don't even know how to answer your questions, everything around us is made up of atoms and matter, science proves this. What an extremely odd set of questions.
 
Did you ever question whether anything around you is real?

Do you ever think that it actually matters the way people see you as a person?
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Yes, I have. It really depends on your definition of reality. I've decided that even if someone else is sensing entirely different things than I am, to the point that we have opposing realities, it doesn't matter. This is my reality and it's dear to me. The value of what I experience on a daily basis is not dependent on the value others place upon it.

Now, if you're talking about...my friends not even being conscious, intelligent beings but simply figments of my imagination, I would be disappointed. But it's not really something I'm going to find out in this lifetime, so why dwell on it?
 
I get a surreal moment every now and then where my thought process is essentially, "Am I really doing what I'm doing right now?" For some reason this tends to happen as I'm reffing a basketball game. You're only as good as your last call, and I know that I'm going to have to make another call soon, so it's like I'm surprised that people are going to judge me based on what I do next, and then I kind of turn it around and introspect. Sort of, how would I view me currently. It's ... strange.

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I certainly questioned my existence before, but I believe everything is real. Besides, I imagine a lot of people happy, when in reality most of them are angry. If my mind didn't want anything angry, why would these angry people be not real? :)
 
As Tyler Durden might say, nothing is real, even you, until you can prove you're alive. But instead of being a crazy nihilistic neo-luddite anarcho-primitivist, you could try to just change your life in positive ways. Read more. Call up a friend. Help an animal. Do something.
 
Weapon XIV said:
Did you ever question whether anything around you is real?
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Not seriously. I'd sometimes look at everything and think "this is too odd to be real, and everything that happens is very strange", but that was more to do with life and some of the things that happen to it in general, as opposed to this reality being in my head / in a computer and I'm just living plugged into something else, not experiencing the real world.

Do you ever think that it actually matters the way people see you as a person?
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I think I do, but I'm growing to accept that it doesn't matter. The main person that has to understand you and respect you is yourself. Lose that and you go mad (speaking from experience :brooding:).

I think it matters to an extent though, but only to reassure you about yourself. I'll feel a lot better if I know that people see me as a good person than I'll feel if people think I'm a prick.


Well, it may well be possible if this entire world is just a fabrication of your mind, nobody may be real, you may just be in a coma like state and created your own world in your mind to give you the sense that people are around you, do you ever wonder what other people see through their own eyes?
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If I did create this world in my mind, then I / my mind did a terrible job. If I'd created the world I'll be a muscular hero set on saving the earth. I'll run around and kill dragons and rescue damsels in distress. Or perhaps I'll not, and I'll be an Indie-esque / Drake-esque archaeologist robbing tombs and saving the world from preventing ancient artefacts getting into the wrong hands.

This world, in comparison, sucks. If it was a creation of my subconscious and I'm in a coma then it is a nightmare world, one set to keep me trapped, and it's hardly a simulation of life, as I've not quite got round to living mine yet in terms of experiences and such.

But as it happens it is most probably reality, and not a simulation. Therefore I'm not trapped like this, I am indeed around here and it is up to me, etc.
 
CassinoChips said:
I get a surreal moment every now and then where my thought process is essentially, "Am I really doing what I'm doing right now?"
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OMG I get that feeling every now and then!

It always seems to happen when I'm at work too.

I'll just stand there for a minute and look around me and think 'Is any of this actually happenning? Am I really standing in this office doing what I'm doing?'

It's hard to actually snap out of it sometimes and when someone comes out to talk to you, I can't concentrate on what they're saying because I'm still in lala land. >.<

But yeah, I've freaked myself out sometimes and gone a bit too far into my thoughts and not been able to come out as quick as I usually do. >.<
 
We've had almost the exact same debate before.
What he was talking about is silopsism, the idea that only one's own mind exists.
The fact that the idea has occured to more than one person is almost proof enough that it is completely untrue.
 
If I am making up this world around me, I must despise myself.

that's not to say that we don't have different or radically different, even, perceptions of our world. Who's to say your green is the same as mine.
 
I believe that the things we see are real :confused: I touch things and the nerves in my hand react and tell me "You just touched ______"

As to what people think of me, it can get to me if people make other people think what they think about me. When a whole lot of people think of you as some sort of know-it-all loser, it can hurt. But my mommy always says that they can eff off. She may just be right :hmmm:
 
Well I would always question how the world came to but- I mean we have the "big bang theory' but it's still weird how things just came to how it is now you know? But I never thought any of this isn't real. We're human, we're living. I wouldn't want to question too many things- why not just enjoy life?

As for the second part, I never really was bothered about who liked me and who didn't. I'm who i am you know? I'm not going to change just to please someone screw that XD. Either like me or you don't your choice.
"those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."- Dr Suess
 
I try not to pursue the thought of the validity or actual state of my own existence, because the ultimate conclusion I reach is that I am incapable of truly fathoming it. Concepts such as science and religion hold no value to me whatsoever, because they are just theories concoted by someone else. Things that sound logical and whatnot are only things that are phrased in a way that appeals to the mind, and all these things people claim as "fact" are just favoured interpretations. They change every century or so. Taking the two most common examples: I find the idea that we're some sort of advanced monkey and/or the product of some ominpotent creator both equally ludicrous - where the hell do these ideas come from?! They're leaps made by the human mind in an attempt to relate to a world and state of being that is completely unknown to us. I personally think that if humans were truly capable of fathoming their own existence, there wouldn't be so many farfetched ideas and theories about it. You believe what you want to believe, but that doesn't mean that it is reality, unless you adopt a solipsist viewpoint.

In short, I have absolutely no idea where I come from, and nor do I really care. Like everyone else on this planet, I've been thoroughly indoctrinated into human society - I've been told that things are a certain way, and since everyone thinks that way, that is what I use to communicate with people. However, that doesn't mean I actually believe it. I've been told things by people who are in pretty much the same boat as me - they don't have a clue either. Nor do the people who told them things. They all like to think otherwise, because knowledge of and relation to things is absolutely crucial to the mind and its sanity, but I think we're all just kidding ourselves when we say we can comprehend our existence. We simply accept whatever explanation is put in front of us, because if you question things too deeply you'll find no satisfactory answers, which is extremely annoying and discomforting, and the sense of futility and despair you'll get from being so insignificant and clueless is quite overpowering. At least, that is the feeling I've gotten when I've tried to find my own reasonable alternatives to all these wacky theories about existence people have. So I just don't think about it. If the origin of my existence or my existence itself has some important meaning, I am unaware of it. Ignorance, as they say, is bliss. It only becomes an issue when you think about it, so...don't think about it.
 
Yes, this place you inhabit is reality. Just seems that you're going through the realisation of insignificance phase in life. Enjoy it.
 
When we were little, we thought, and swore, that everyone around us were robots that were observing us. We were a paranoid little shit. :wacky:

People tried for hours convincing us otherwise, but we wouldn't believe them because it was all part of the plan. They were trying to lure us into a false sense of security. :mokken:

We couldn't have been more than 8 years old at the time. :hmmm:
 
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