women in america...
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That goes without saying...
I vaguely disagree. Probably a discussion for another time in a place that awards post count.
Just to clarify: I didn't say it.
I was at work & one of my co-workers said it.
I never heard anyone say anything like that before & never thought I would ever hear that from him in a million years. He seemed like a happy and well balanced person and was somewhat known for going out and partying and having one night stands.
Unless a person knows every women on earth - they couldn't make a claim that all women were a certain way or other.
The only thing people can do is speak from their limited knowledge based on their limited personal experiences and their limited knowledge.
From a fundamental perspective, its incorrect for anyone to speak about all people or an entire demographic or group unless they would presume to be all-knowing...
No one implied all women were anything... they were merely speaking from their own limited experiences..
Unless a person is God or all-knowing, all they can do is generalize based on their limited knowledge.
Human behavior can't be defined in literal terms.
There are plenty of religious ppl who used to be atheists who neve had religious parents or family. There are always exceptions to the rule.
Generalizing is the only option available & the only real means of describing how people relate to things...
well if it goes without saying then why make a thread.
of course you disagree. i'd love to hear your reliable information on the subject
don't even try and bring in this philosophical bullshit. you, or your pal there, whatever, made a generalization in saying that american women are materialistic etc. if it wasn't a generalization then i'm not really sure what you were trying to achieve.
and are you seriously bringing atheism and god into this. really.
of course you disagree. i'd love to hear your reliable information on the subject
don't even try and bring in this philosophical bullshit. you, or your pal there, whatever, made a generalization in saying that american women are materialistic etc. if it wasn't a generalization then i'm not really sure what you were trying to achieve.
and are you seriously bringing atheism and god into this. really.
That I can agree with. I'd really prefer for her to do her jazy-type bar music. :/
What the heck is that?
ehhehehehe
I agree with Ari, leave God out of this argument. :/
Mainly because... in my limited, personal, experience devoid of omniscience or all-knowingness... whenever someone says or does something unimaginably and incredibly stupid... it always seems to be an american.
If I'm posting on a forum and someone disagrees with me and says something immeasurably dumb... its always an american.
If I'm talking to people from europe, or mexico or another country... those people say and do things I consider to be extremely educated and smart. This forum may well be a decent example, in a way.
But, when americans are involved, I constantly have to explain things to them and divulge expositionary information just to keep them in the conversation and able to vaguely understand what it is we're talking about. They constantly ask for links and other things to fill in the gaping holes in their education and pretend it makes them 'smart' that they don't know basic things without someone having to hand their hand and explain it to them.
Even americans with college degrees in science, physics, political science and other fields one might expect someone competent with a decent amount of intelligence would work in are miraculously dumb a lot of the time -- based on my limited personal experience.
(That's a generalization btw, in case you missed the numerous indications..)
I wonder if others have had similar experiences and come to similar conclusions.
It had absolutely nothing to do with women, actually..
Considering how butthurt and offended people got over what I thought was a harmless post, yourself included, I think I'll pass.
It has nothing to do with religion, or God.
If you think the reference was important - you didn't understand the point.
Point: Some speak from a point of view where they consider themselves to be 'all-knowing'. They speak about "all men/women".... "all religious people" as if they know all of them personally and are in a position to judge them.
It goes without saying no one is in a position to accurately make such claims. Therefore, anytime someone presumes to make a judgment about "all ____ people" its generally assumed to be an implied generalization.
There are exceptions and that mostly has to do with narcissism and egotism and people of today not knowing basic fundamental things and being ridiculously over-judgmental. Some of us think that we can judge celebrities and people we have never met and know absolutely nothing about.
If you want to bring religion and God into it... the religious ideal could be - 'judge not lest thee be judged, and as you measure and label -- so shall those labels and measures be brought back to you'.
That could especially apply to those who mistakenly believe they are in a position to judge me.
The fact that you accuse someone of trying to "philosophize their way out of things" when they try to defend themselves, perhaps betrays your own indifference to whether or not people like yourself over-reacted and assumed I said things I did not. d :
i sure hope i'm not the only one seeing that you're going off on a tangent, and i do not wish to argue with you about who can make generalizations and who can't, because that is not the point.
and good, i'm glad. i'd rather not see any more of your ridiculous opinions, especially on one where you have absolutely no grounds to disagree.
and good, i'm glad. i'd rather not see any more of your ridiculous opinions, especially on one where you have absolutely no grounds to disagree.
All American women are fat, so they could take his attacks like punching bags
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1) What does that mean?
2) That's not true at all. She can sing. i've seen it. And no, most of her songs don't deal with sex. Her newest album is quite empowering for women and people's rights in general. :3
3) He became what he made himself out to be. Society didn't make him that villain... he did when he decided to beat his girlfriend to a point of her being unrecognizable.
1) It means what it means. The entertainment industry is more generalized towards women, then men these days as far as singing. Justin Beiber. He is a stereotype. He would not be around without teenage girls. No offense. Kelly Clarkson, she would not be around unless it was for angry teenage to middle age women. Some of her songs were good, but she became a mold. Same thing goes with TV shows and Reality Television. While men do get sucked into it, there a more adjusted for women. Just pick up a men's health, then pick up a People's magazine. Everything is centered around entertainment. Most men would prefer sports reads over following up with the Kardashians, Lady Gaga and her new look, or Nicki Manaj and her new bloom. There is less and less for fellas to actually look into as far as music, unless we really want to listen to Nickle Back Band sound alikes. Which no offense, chad kroeger, is a grade A deuche bag. All the rap.. it's awful. Nothing but PC lyrics, that everyone listens for beat and enjoys. AKA radio friendly music. When's the next time I can hear a HED PE on the radio? You won't due to it is very controversial music. R.A.T.M? You won't hear bands like them hit the radio again. If we took away the the female listeners, I don't think as much sound a like music would be out there. I'm not saying, that women are causing this, it's just a lot of women out there fall into liking these types of bands. I don't assume you do, but I know the facts of what runs MTV. There is no secret behind it. They used to bring back and plethora of pretty looking girls to talk on TRL. It's just good marketing tactics in my opinion. People want to see stuff that blows their mind.. like Lady Gaga exploiting her looks. To me, there's always playboy for men, nothing new in what we are looking at. Again.. marketing.
2) I didn't say she couldn't, I said she didn't add to it. Aka she's using her vocals in the wrong manner most often times. What's the point of making all of the poppy sounds about sitting on a dick? Honestly, it disturbs me. It's just like how rap ended. Everything started becoming more and more about generalizing women as prostitutes. Saying if you aren't a playa, you are a pussy. "Don't hate the player, hate the game" While all fun and games aside. She used her racy looks in order to get ahead when all she had to do is sing. She sickened me and still does. I will not defend her.
Niki Manaj:
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Lady Gaga
This isn't the first time people used sexual songs though to get ahead:
3) No one would of cared, if she wasn't Rihana. Domestic abuse happens all the time unfortunately, but it was Chris Brown of course that became the villain. I would never side with him, they just made his case plenty worse. Guess what though, he's still making millions. His album F.A.M.E. was number one on the bill boards, and who do you think is buying his music? I admit the dude has a voice, but I would never buy his music..
He used it to get ahead, his infamy leading to more money.. that's a riot.
As long as I have a face Nicki Minaj has a seat
Last I checked.... women didn't menstruate from their rib cage.
Also, lolspam.
Also, lolspam.
This Kira. Omfg. 
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@Oli. Dear God in heaven. I would normally quote the post I was responding to, but I think loading that image a second time would.... weigh down..... the server?
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Dear God in heaven. I would normally quote the post I was responding to, but I think loading that image a second time would.... weigh down..... the server?/ba-dum tish
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You should infract him.@Oli.
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Like you did that guy who posted too many smilies.
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