Usama Bin Laden DEAD!

[L]

Osama Bin Laden was shot in the face.
He used his own woman as shield.

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

someone sticks their dick in your ass. after being manhandled, you have the power to make them pay for what they've done. Would you really let something like that go and just report it to the police, hoping they could take care of it?

Anything that retarded cunt gets is too good for him

 

[Donald Trump]

Armed resistance, whether it came from bin Laden or not, makes capture irrelevant and nearly impossible. He's also a combatant because of that resistance. And, more importantly, because of his actions on 9/11.

If they're the creme de la creme surely they could have managed to take him alive.

You're right; it doesn't matter if he got to court or not. He's still guilty

So you're willing to ignore law and order and freedom et al when it suits you?

1st: I love how whenever something is wrong with another, Christianity always has to be brought up, absolutely hilarious. The worse Christian extremists get even today is "anti-gays" and "anti-abortions" or some nuts like WBC saying "you will go to hell". There hasn't been an extremest Christian in forever, since a LONG long time. Most of which you put on Christians was committed by Catholics (though still many, many, many, many years ago) by a Pope, who was a militant leader, who didn't allow these Catholics to read, not even the Bible and forced them into a Crusade against Muslim conquests.
2nd: "mainly" peaceful? Yes, Muslims are peaceful here (in America, Canada, England and Italy [some others like Russa and Germany too]) and not all of them are "evil". But to say "mainly peace" when what's happening in the world (Saudi, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Palestine etc) contradicts that bold statement.
Thirdly and lastly: Your comparison of a terrorist to the people who don't what a Mosque (nice try, its an Islamic house of worship built only for Muslims and their religion. A swimming pool doesn't make it less of a Mosque) a stone-throw away from Ground Zero is unmistakeably wrong, incredibly ludicrous but also extremely insulting. To compare terrorists and their actions to protesters is just....Ugh.

All religions can be equally bloodthirsty.
For a recent Christian example, look no further than the wars in what used to be Yugoslavia. Various massacres committed by the Serbs, most notoriously Srebrencia. The Serbian Orthodoxy, like the Russian and Greek Orthodoxy, is Christian.
Catholics, as my good pal CassinoChips will confirm are Christians.

But...come on man you are an american..."if" (and I stress the if) the american goverment is really making everything up...and got caught...would you really want the world to know your country has such lack of morality and shame. Would you really want them to get caught?

You'd be willing to lie so America wouldn't look so bad?
That horse bolted decades ago.

America isn't dedicating itself to ridding the world of terrorism, it's getting rid of America's problem, not the World's.

 

[Ohri-Jin]

We don't negotiate with terrorists.

someone sticks their dick in your ass. after being manhandled, you have the power to make them pay for what they've done. Would you really let something like that go and just report it to the police, hoping they could take care of it?

Anything that retarded cunt gets is too good for him

Lol what significance has those 2 sentences you quoted from me?
Ofcourse I wouldnt know how to react in that situation..but since I am a human I'd probably take revenge..

But that is not the point..Governments and the military has power and status and that doesnt mean they can do whatever they want..

They put themselves above the law. They are basically doing the same what terrorists have been doing.. USA killed innocent people as well...They call it collateral damage..

Stop fooling yourself...they kill under the same pretences terrorists use..

They are becoming what they are trying to fight...

USA's weapons market and the like..

USA is like a sheep in wolfs clothes...

To me in every man or woman lies a terrorist as humans have a destructive nature..

Bottom line is dont front about it and be fake like a pussy..terrorists as dumb as they are at least dont lie about their intentions..

As USA is playing a foul game under same bullshit pretences but many puppets believe is also just, which is in my eyes same O'l shit.

 

[Terra Branford]

@L:

Are you serious? Not that I disagree or agree, just curious xD

*what you said actually reminds me of someone I met, is all *

All religions can be equally bloodthirsty.
For a recent Christian example, look no further than the wars in what used to be Yugoslavia. Various massacres committed by the Serbs, most notoriously Srebrencia. The Serbian Orthodoxy, like the Russian and Greek Orthodoxy, is Christian.
Catholics, as my good pal CassinoChips will confirm are Christians.

(Not when it suits me, heavens no. When it suits the lives of thousands, then yes. When you lose a best friend because of UBL, then maybe you can have the right to judge what I think or don't think, about matters. *not talking about TT attacks, by the way*)

Yes, I never denied they couldn't be. My point was missed, it seems.

Is that the only example? My point was that there aren't nearly the same amount of Christian/andor Catholic extremists as other religions as of now (compared to the other religions.) and I was also trying to say that when something bad happens in another religion, its always "well Christians did that" as if its some absurd justification or some freaky need to attack Christians and or Catholics whenever they get the chance.

Lastly, Catholics and Christians ARE NOT synonyms. I don't really care who says they are, its wrong. Don't use as if they are, its really well, silly. And I know what Russian/Greek orthodox is.

But I don't feel like getting into yet another "christians = teh pure evilz" or anther religious debate, God knows we know what that leads to. Let's just end it there.

 

[Harlequin]

Osama Bin Laden was shot in the face.
He used his own woman as shield.
Special Forces were ordered SHOOT TO KILL..pure assasination
Special Forces shot his woman in the leg instead of Osama himself.
Osama was unarmed....they were ordered to kill anyway...

This is not humane...they should have showed an example..the better people, instead they brutally murdered one old douchebag.

Osama's 12 year old daughter was apparently an eyewitness and saw her own father get shot in the face..afterwards she got handcuffed...

That is not humane..

I agree. Shooting an unarmed man 'in the face' (as was so triumphantly put by the White House) completely undermines the reason why we've been tracking him. We tracked Osama because of his crimes against humanity and the threat he posed to humanity, yet when we find him... we blast half of his head off in front of his wife and child while he was unarmed. What kind of a message is that?

All religions can be equally bloodthirsty.

Oh here we go.

 

[Sum1sgruj]

I love the way Christinaity loves to whitewash itself to innocence, and pretend that nothing it does is ever as bad as other religions, or that it's in the past. Of course, when ever I bring up anything bad about the religion or it's practitioners, and not say it about all of them mind, someone will accuse me of lying or saying they haven't experienced the same, so it must not be true.

And does that make them any less responsible for their actions. And are you honestly suggesting that Islamic extremists can't be made the same way you excuse the crusades? Forgive me but I don't believe that Osama was heavily into educating people on the world many different and beautiful cultures.

Two, Muslims are mainly peaceful. In fact, I've not met anyone who exemplifies the values that are preached by a small group in the Middle East. I even know a gay Muslim. So like any religion it has it's good guys and it's bad guys. Of course, yet again, I'll probably be excused of lying for no reason other than my opinion disagrees.

Protesters? Yeah nice try. Bigots is more like it. Muslims didn't attack the World Trade Centers, a terrorist organization that is made up of Muslims did. That doesn't make the whole group any guiltier. Thanks for bringing that up by the way, it's yet another way "American Patriotism" encourages an Us vs Them image. Oh no evil Muslims want to build a Mosque near the location of terrorists attack.

I suppose we should have protested allowing churches near the sites of the abortion clinic bombings? Same logic.

Every religion has their share of extremists. There is no need to put them with the true religious people.
Nothing ever gets solved that way. It's no different then being racist, except it's toward religion instead of color.

So I find your indiscretions unfounded.

 

[Ayumi Hamasaki]

Every religion has their share of extremists. There is no need to put them with the true religious people.
Nothing ever gets solved that way. It's no different then being racist, except it's toward religion instead of color.

So I find your indiscretions unfounded.

I'm not sure what you mean. That's exactly what I was saying.

Perhaps the sarcasm in certain parts didn't come off clearly? Every group of people in the world has it's bad apples. It's unfair to judge that entire group on them.

That's what I was saying. I'm not sure what indiscretions you picked up on, but I assure you that we agree on what you're saying.

 

[L]

They put themselves above the law. They are basically doing the same what terrorists have been doing.. USA killed innocent people as well...

you come into our country, crash a plane into one of our towers, and think that we will just forget you? You think we are going to play your game with a set of rules?

fuck that

i'm going to take the checkerboard and beat your ass with it

But what's with this "it wasn't ok to kill bin laden because he was unarmed" shit? Do you think the world is some magical place where everyone gets a fair chance and fights with honor?

I'm sorry, I just seemed to miss the part where Osama Bin Laden issued a formal proclamation that he would be crashing a jet full of passengers into world trade center.

oh wait, thats because he didn't

but i guess it's OK to have done that if you are going to be unarmed and use your wife as a shield when the people you wronged hunt your ass down 7 years later.

maybe i will run across the street and shoot the place up and proceed to go on a mad rampage shooting the hell out of anyone driving down the road. then when i'm at home and the military comes for me, i'll just come out onto the porch using my mother as a shield and everyone will go away after 48 hours because killing an unarmed man would be wrong.

you're all talking this shit, but did you lose anyone in 9/11? Is it your duty to protect this country and it's citizens? no, you didn't and no it isn't.

its like all the college republican kids pushing for war that wouldn't get off their asses and join the military to fight for what they believe in.

but why so angry, isn't it all just a bunch of fabricated bullshit propaganda to support Obama?

 

[Ayumi Hamasaki]

you come into our country, crash a plane into one of our towers, and think that we will just forget you? You think we are going to play your game with a set of rules?

fuck that

i'm going to take the checkerboard and beat your ass with it

But what's with this "it wasn't ok to kill bin laden because he was unarmed" shit? Do you think the world is some magical place where everyone gets a fair chance and fights with honor?

I'm sorry, I just seemed to miss the part where Osama Bin Laden issued a formal proclamation that he would be crashing a jet full of passengers into world trade center.

oh wait, thats because he didn't

but i guess it's OK to have done that if you are going to be unarmed and use your wife as a shield when the people you wronged hunt your ass down 7 years later.

maybe i will run across the street and shoot the place up and proceed to go on a mad rampage shooting the hell out of anyone driving down the road. then when i'm at home and the military comes for me, i'll just come out onto the porch using my mother as a shield and everyone will go away after 48 hours because killing an unarmed man would be wrong.

you're all talking this shit, but did you lose anyone in 9/11? Is it your duty to protect this country and it's citizens? no, you didn't and no it isn't.

its like all the college republican kids pushing for war that wouldn't get off their asses and join the military to fight for what they believe in.

but why so angry, isn't it all just a bunch of fabricated bullshit propaganda to support Obama?

I agree with this.

The only thing I had an issue with is people CELEBRATING the fact that he's dead. They just seems morbid and weird to me, as well as a stupid move PR wise. Still people get caught in the moment I guess.

I have no problem with them shooting him if in fact they did. I say good for them, they killed him. Do we have to act like it's Christmas? Nope.

 

[Naoto Shirogane]

I agree with this.

The only thing I had an issue with is people CELEBRATING the fact that he's dead. They just seems morbid and weird to me, as well as a stupid move PR wise. Still people get caught in the moment I guess.

I have no problem with them shooting him if in fact they did. I say good for them, they killed him. Do we have to act like it's Christmas? Nope.

..Why SHOULDNT they be clebrating? I mean. Yeah. Celebrating Death is morbid and Scary. BUT This guy Killed a ton of people. and Im not talking about 9/11 Either. Seriously. In any of the attacks made by them. People's brothers,Sisters,Fathers,Mothers,Family,Friends. They died. I think no matter how Morbid it is. They have the right to celebrate the fact that the bastard that killed a loved one is Dead.

I mean. If i came over to your house. Shot everyone you loved. Possibly in front of your eyes. Then Id get Killed. You CANt tell me you wouldnt feel SOMe joy at my death. I Mean. Dude i killed your family. Now im dead. You better be Damn glad I didnt kill you are anyone else.

But. Hey What the hell do i know?

 

[Ayumi Hamasaki]

..Why SHOULDNT they be clebrating? I mean. Yeah. Celebrating Death is morbid and Scary. BUT This guy Killed a ton of people. and Im not talking about 9/11 Either. Seriously. In any of the attacks made by them. People's brothers,Sisters,Fathers,Mothers,Family,Friends. They died. I think no matter how Morbid it is. They have the right to celebrate the fact that the bastard that killed a loved one is Dead.

I mean. If i came over to your house. Shot everyone you loved. Possibly in front of your eyes. Then Id get Killed. You CANt tell me you wouldnt feel SOMe joy at my death. I Mean. Dude i killed your family. Now im dead. You better be Damn glad I didnt kill you are anyone else.

But. Hey What the hell do i know?

Yes, but Connor it's not just those people who lost people celebrating. In fact, I've yet so see anyone on the news who has lost someone who's having a block party because he's dead. They don't have the right to celebrate something like that, and to celebrate it that way is just low.

If you want to be happy, that's fine, but there's a proper way to show it. Having parties, and taking to the streets about it, and misrepresenting history are the not the right way.

 

[Naoto Shirogane]

Yes, but Connor it's not just those people who lost people celebrating. In fact, I've yet so see anyone on the news who has lost someone who's having a block party because he's dead. They don't have the right to celebrate something like that, and to celebrate it that way is just low.

If you want to be happy, that's fine, but there's a proper way to show it. Having parties, and taking to the streets about it, and misrepresenting history are the not the right way.

You have a point. but you said on the news. How many of those people Cheering do you know havent lost a loved one. You cant talk for the majority of america. And I doubt the news would report a block party Him dying if Someone lost a family member.

Then Again. This is your opinion. Who am I to question it?

 

[CassinoChips]

..Why SHOULDNT they be clebrating? I mean. Yeah. Celebrating Death is morbid and Scary. BUT This guy Killed a ton of people. and Im not talking about 9/11 Either. Seriously. In any of the attacks made by them. People's brothers,Sisters,Fathers,Mothers,Family,Friends. They died. I think no matter how Morbid it is. They have the right to celebrate the fact that the bastard that killed a loved one is Dead.

I mean. If i came over to your house. Shot everyone you loved. Possibly in front of your eyes. Then Id get Killed. You CANt tell me you wouldnt feel SOMe joy at my death. I Mean. Dude i killed your family. Now im dead. You better be Damn glad I didnt kill you are anyone else.

But. Hey What the hell do i know?

The problem is that these people celebrating likely derided those in the Arab world who celebrated when the towers came down. That's hypocritical. Death is death, whether it's one or one million. I'm fine with a sense of justice being done, or a sense of satisfaction. But idiot college kids cheering like their team had just made it to the Final Four is juvenile, and cheapens the whole situation.

 

[Ayumi Hamasaki]

You have a point. but you said on the news. How many of those people Cheering do you know havent lost a loved one. You cant talk for the majority of america. And I doubt the news would report a block party Him dying if Someone lost a family member.

Then Again. This is your opinion. Who am I to question it?

I would say that a majority of America did not lose someone CLOSE to them in the towers, because statistically that seems impossible Connor. And the block party was actually from Kate's post earlier in this very thread not the news.

I'm fine with a sense of justice being done, or a sense of satisfaction. But idiot college kids cheering like their team had just made it to the Final Four is juvenile, and cheapens the whole situation.

That is how I feel. It's like they won a game or something. It's not taking it seriously it all.

 

[L]

Well there's not really a lot of ways to feel about it.

No one will ever forget September 11th. No one will ever forget the day Osama Bin Laden had a new asshole imprinted onto his face.

I'd personally rather be happy than sad.

It is a victory of sorts, but this is something that just happened. About a year from now, people will have probably regained their senses and will still rejoice in the anniversary of the event, but I doubt that they will still be so crazy about it.

I'm sure that regardless of the event, everyone wishes September 11th never happened in the first place.

 

[Ohri-Jin]

Anyways good for America you killed Osama Bin Laden...celebrate whatever...wish there was a way to kill all of the terrorists at once.., but that is impossible..

I expect avenging etc....this might escalate...

 

[Donald Trump]

Lastly, Catholics and Christians ARE NOT synonyms. I don't really care who says they are, its wrong. Don't use as if they are, its really well, silly. And I know what Russian/Greek orthodox is.

I didn't say they were. All Catholics are Christian, not all Christians are Catholic.

But what's with this "it wasn't ok to kill bin laden because he was unarmed" shit? Do you think the world is some magical place where everyone gets a fair chance and fights with honor?

I'm sorry, I just seemed to miss the part where Osama Bin Laden issued a formal proclamation that he would be crashing a jet full of passengers into world trade center.

oh wait, thats because he didn't

but i guess it's OK to have done that if you are going to be unarmed and use your wife as a shield when the people you wronged hunt your ass down 7 years later.

I thought America was supposed to be morally superior to Osama?
If your justification for shooting an unarmed man and his wife is that he did the same thing, then you are admitting to being just as bad.
War does have rules, the Geneva Convention etc etc.

..Why SHOULDNT they be clebrating? I mean. Yeah. Celebrating Death is morbid and Scary. BUT This guy Killed a ton of people. and Im not talking about 9/11 Either. Seriously. In any of the attacks made by them. People's brothers,Sisters,Fathers,Mothers,Family,Friends. They died. I think no matter how Morbid it is. They have the right to celebrate the fact that the bastard that killed a loved one is Dead.

Because it's distasteful.
Because it's hypocritical.
Because America has killed far more innocent civilians in trying to Kill Osama, than Osama could manage.

I mean. If i came over to your house. Shot everyone you loved. Possibly in front of your eyes. Then Id get Killed. You CANt tell me you wouldnt feel SOMe joy at my death. I Mean. Dude i killed your family. Now im dead. You better be Damn glad I didnt kill you are anyone else.

Ah yeds. I suppose you'd rip their hearts right out of their chests?
We don't have the death penalty, and you'd get a trial. Osama did not get a trial.

I'm sure that regardless of the event, everyone wishes September 11th never happened in the first place.

It's impossible to imagine a world without 9/11. It's been the defining of the Millennium so far.

 

[L]

If your justification for shooting an unarmed man and his wife is that he did the same thing, then you are admitting to being just as bad.

Well I'm pretty sure we all strive to live in peace, but you just don't fuck with other people unless you have the balls to suffer the ramifications of your actions.

Because America has killed far more innocent civilians in trying to Kill Osama, than Osama could manage.

but it appears I know far less than I thought I did on the subject, if said statement is true. All I'm saying is that; Osama is a cunt, death was too good for him, trying to say "brutally murdering him wasn't fair/right" after what he's done is stupid and that's pretty much it.

 

[Harlequin]

All the should and shouldn't haves of Osamas death aside, I reckon the US should certainly cut most of the $3 Billion dollar aid the American taxpayer is granting Pakistan in it's 'war' on terror. Pakistan clearly aren't up to the task and from the lack of intel shared by the US on the operation it would seem they don't trust Pakistan (and with good reason imo). There's a very good chance Pakistan is playing both sides, taking US money with one hand and nurturing militant extremism with the other.

'course it's not as simple as just pulling the plug. Cut the aid and we've made allegations if not with words than certainly with actions that Pakistan is not to be trusted. While we don't necessarily need Pakistan with us in the war on terror, we certainly don't need them operating against us behind our backs. If we do feel reprisals for killing Osama, we can likely expect those behind it to have operated from Pakistan.

 

[DarkShadow]

I don't know if this had been discussed here before,but if you really think about it the cause of 9/11 is traced back to the USA. When Afghanistan (The Taliban) was at war with Soviet Russia, Bin Laden left behind a life of luxury to fight on the frontlines along with the Taliban (This radicalized him). During the war, the USA, as a way of helping the Taliban fight their communist rivals funded them (including Bin Laden as well as his goal few years later: 9/11). Now 20 years later the Taliban have turned their american-imported guns on america and as well as help Bin Laden mastermind the attacks. So all the USA have done is sort out their OWN problem. The USA made a mistake (like usual) wayy back by funding an extremist ideologically motivated by religous beliefs to carry out attacks on the country it received money from. And I don't mean to go off-topic here, but there doing the same thing in Libya by arming (yes they arming them so fuck what the mainstream media told you ) and funding the rebels who are linked to Al Qaeda....oh yeah let's not forget their bombing the place too killing civillians, all in the name of protecting.

As for Bin Laden death I'm glad his dead.....this may certainly provoke a retalliation, but in the long term I can see the severity of terrorism reduced with Bin Laden gone. He may have been killed unlawfully but who gives a fuck? when he killed people unlawfully himself! - killing him by saying that is justifiable enough.