Usama Bin Laden DEAD!

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So I didn't know where to put this, but I thought it was HUGE news. If there was another thread, in my defense I did look...plus, I never figured out where news threads are put. Very confusing >.>

What happened to cause his death should have done years ago...though a capture seemed far more suitable for him. :/

Okay, so it was an American bombing. The US now has the body of Osama, so...its official this time?

I don't think this will change anything though >.>

Still waiting for Obama to speak.
*Links in a moment; for now watch the TV *
 
First, it's spelled Osama.

Second, I call horseshit. In the almost 10 years between 9/11 and now, there have been reports, and false reports at that, that bin Laden died of natural causes. The only way I'll be convinced that he is truly dead, is either I see the body, or someone drops a nuclear bomb in the Pakistani Mountains.
 
But look, if you actually watch the news, they say that "we have the body".

That right there is the key to this whole thing. If that is bullshit, then every news station that is showing this is wrong, and I highly doubt that nobody has their shit together on this one.
 
I'm sure all the dead Iraqis and dead Afghanis and dead Pakistanis and all the falsely imprisoned and tortured people in Guantanamo bay are all delighted to hear this. He's a martyr now.
To be honest I think people who are celebrating his death are hypocrites at best. He's dead and people will celebrate because they're disgusting.
 
Actually, his name is Usāmah so I wasn't incorrect in spelling it with a /u/, but I normally don't type the correct Arabic (translated) spellings when on Forums unless I'm debating. But yes, you are correct. The English spelling of Usāmah is "Osama". :)

Yes, I know there have been false new reports of his death before, which is why I asked "so, its official this time?" Well, the US has the body. Who knows, maybe a body will be shown.
 
Terra Branford said:
Actually, his name is Usāmah so I wasn't incorrect in spelling it with a /u/, but I normally don't type the correct Arabic (translated) spellings when on Forums unless I'm debating. But yes, you are correct. The English spelling of Usāmah is "Osama". :)

Yes, I know there have been false new reports of his death before, which is why I asked "so, its official this time?" Well, the US has the body. Who knows, maybe a body will be shown.
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One, for the sake of recognition to me he will always be Osama. Whether it's correct in Arabic or not hardly matters to me, or to the mass media, or to most people for that matter.

Two, I'm not sure I believe this. On one had, at this point, it could just be a load of shit brought together to make it look like our government is actually CAPABLE of doing something right. On the other hand, if a body is shown (which is a rather disgusting thought to me) then I guess we have our proof. Maybe. And I mean, to those who think that the news is always correct, I mean, this would HARDLY be the first or last time they've made a mistake, been bought off etc etc.

For a funny example, ABC News declared Sharon Osbourne dead of cancer a few years back only to have to retract when they found she was in fact still very much alive.

Honestly, at this point does it even matter that he's dead? There's always someone else ready to take over. And Hal has a point, even if he didn't mean to I'm never sure if he's seriously serious or not, we just turned him into a martyr, and the bigger a deal we make of this, the worse it gets. And you just know with the good ole American values, someone's going to say something stupid.

And news goes in Midgar for the most part I believe.

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I don't like calling someone/thing the incorrect spelling or name just because the media does and to be told the incorrect spelling "is the way" is just weird. It is ludicrous. >.>

Anyway, Obama is talking now. He was supposed to be on an hour ago, but...

I didn't even see a Midgar before :O Weird.
 
Terra Branford said:
I don't like calling someone/thing the incorrect spelling or name just because the media does and to be told the incorrect spelling "is the way" is as weird. It is ludicrous. >.>
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It is the correct spelling of his name. We are English here, we don't speak Arabic. Some of us might, but unless everyone does, then it's a moot point. Now if this was an Arabic forum, I could see the need to spell his name properly in Arabic.

But alas, this is not the topic at hand, so I will refrain from pulling us off course. :)
 
Tbh, who gives a rats ass how it's said/spelt/etc.

Now after hearing what is being said, I think it's safe to say that we really do have him. Now granted, president Obama has said some things that have not been entirely accurate, but his speech now is just confirming what the news channels said before him.
 
(I just heard) Obama say that American soldiers killed Osama today when it happened a week ago. -_- I certainly hope it was a mistake and he isn't trying to cover something far more important and dangerous. >.>

It went from a Missile strike to a Firefight too..

(Its the correct English translation, not Arabic. :P His Arabic name is so written as "أسامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن", what I gave was the correct English translation :> )
 
Terra Branford said:
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(Its the correct English translation, not Arabic. :P His Arabic name is so written as "أسامة بن محمد بن عوض بن لادن", what I gave was the correct English translation :> )
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It's spelling. It's also a name. I could call Lady Gaga Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta, but no one would know who I was talking about. Why? Because she's known as Lady Gaga.

Most people don't know who you are talking about when you refer to him as that.

Also

Terra Branford said:
Actually, his name is Usāmah so I wasn't incorrect in spelling it with a /u/, but I normally don't type the correct Arabic (translated) spellings when on Forums unless I'm debating. But yes, you are correct. The English spelling of Usāmah is "Osama".
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The English spelling of the name is Osama. We speak English, therefore we use English spelling. :P

Now after hearing what is being said, I think it's safe to say that we really do have him. Now granted, president Obama has said some things that have not been entirely accurate, but his speech now is just confirming what the news channels said before him.
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Yes because the news and the government can't both be mislead, lied to, or in it together. I mean we probably did get him, but just because they both have made the same statements does not make it true.

And honestly what does it matter? Like I said, there's always another person waiting in the wings take over.
 
Terra Branford said:
Actually, his name is Usāmah so I wasn't incorrect in spelling it with a /u/
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So you were just incorrect in forgetting the 'h' then. Sorry for being a cunt, I just couldn't help myself :P

Anyway I'm somewhat curious as to why more care wasn't taken to secure him alive. You'd think that the leader of a group which supposedly poses a 'threat to the nation' would be of much greater use to the US alive than dead. Of course I don't know the specifics around the operation, but if such care was really taken to avoid civilian casualties (as Obama meticulously mentioned) you'd think that the same care could've been applied to Bin laden.

Watching the celebrations on TV is quite interesting. I can't help but compare it to the 'two minutes of hate' in the book nineteen eighty-four.
 
Well someone's grumpy...

I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to terrorist infrastructure or network or organization or whatever else it's called, but I'm not entirely sure how this is going to effect Al Qaeda in general. I could see some kind of implosion due to a power vacuum or what not if this happened during its earlier days, but I would guess that the organization would be a bit more resilient today. But then again there's a lot of ? about Osama's role in Al Qaeda so it could have a substantial impact. Or maybe since he's now a martyr extremist attacks will be on the rise during the next few months? Or...(I have no fucking clue I'm just spewing a bunch of speculation at this point).

But either way it's a good morale boost and a kind of retribution for 9/11. Also it'll be great for Obama's reelection campaign. :)

I'll probably just pick up the economist next week when they do an in-depth story.
 
Really with the spelling debate guys? Come on. A) You obviously knew who she meant. B) It's not mission critical.

Moved to Costa
 
I'm fairly intrigued by what all that they'll 'show'. On the news they mentioned that they needed to show the body, the face of Osama. Surely, they can't show a dead man's body/face on national tv, right? Terrorist or no terrorist? Isn't there some sort of.. law or weird legality against that? Just to confirm it? They want to go beyond getting a 'vile of blood for dna' to prove it's him, but srsly, how can you prove it further than that?

I think it's legit. Every network was put on hold for this, Obama came out to speak about this.. they wouldn't have done all that just for a mistake. That's probably why it may have happened a week ago and they're only reporting it now. Because they may have only gotten the body now and are confirming it.
 
Seriously, stop with the fucking conspiracy talk.

Osama is dead. This doesn't mean anything really, but it's solace to every American that lost someone during 9/11.

Stoic Hero No need for name calling
 
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Chanpanion Cube: Actually, back when I thought I had a future in Journalism, in a Law and Ethics class I took for the program, they were cited examples of dead people shown in newspapers and even on t.v. in America. I'm sure that there might be some discretion if the body may be mangled or something, but it's been done before.

I'm not sure what to think of Osama's death. I don't exactly feel right cheering over someone's death, despite their crimes. As well, I admit I can't relate as well to terrorism topics. Not because I'm Canadian, but because I didn't really pay attention to the details in the first place :/
 
It's likely to be legit, there's not really any reason to think otherwise. Too many conspiracy theory nuts on the internet nowadays. It's a bit ridiculous.

Surprised the forum is so silent... Guess there's less users than I originally imagined. Can hear students yelling outside the university library at the moment. Another forum I'm surfing (while studying for finals :/) has hit 60+ pages on an "osama thread" made a couple hours ago. Twitter is going wild. Headlines on the news. Dunno if it's overinflated, but no matter how you spin it, it's a positive force not only for USA but many of the other countries (e.g., in Europe) that've been combating the Taliban as well. Gotta at least smile some right?
 
Well I was suprised... I get out of a movie i hear someone Shout "OSAMA IS DEAD" which I just thought this guy was drunk (Movie theature by a bar) suddenly more people come out screaming it, so me and my friends go inside the bar, and sure enough... hes dead... I have to say wow.... but that dont mean that terrorist are done attacking, he is a symbol im sure theres other people that are going step up and be the new leader... but this is big news!
 
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@Chanpanion Cube: Actually, back when I thought I had a future in Journalism, in a Law and Ethics class I took for the program, they were cited examples of dead people shown in newspapers and even on t.v. in America. I'm sure that there might be some discretion if the body may be mangled or something, but it's been done before.
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The only law against it that I'm aware of, other than obscenity laws which are completely circumventable, is that it used to be illegal to televise an American soldier's coffin/body as it was returned from overseas. Possibly at all/ever, though I'm not 100% on that. But that law was changed during W's Presidency. 2003-ish I think.
 
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