Serious The Rapture.........Do you believe it will happen?

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Rapture or none, it could be a great day

By Noelle McCarthy 5:30 AM Friday May 20, 2011
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Harold Camping has crunched numbers in the Bible and concluded the world is coming to an end. Photo / AP



There is a scene in Martin Scorsese's film The Departed where Jack Nicholson's crime kingpin asks after another man's mother. "She's on the way out," he answers dolefully. "We all are," snarls Jack. "Act accordingly."
Exactly. We're on the way out. The world is going to end on May 21, according to a man called Harold Camping. Harold runs Family Radio in Oakland California. He has predicted the end of the world by doing maths with the Bible. Having crunched the numbers in the Book of Genesis, he's fairly certain tomorrow will be the day when it all kicks off.
There'll be a Rapture, and the righteous will go up, and the rest of us will be left below for assorted tribulations and an eventual apocalypse.
Harold has been wrong before - he also announced the end of days back in 1994, and well, here we all are, but there's certainly more empirical evidence to support his theory this time around.
The Queen is in Ireland, Arnie and Maria have broken up, and half my friends on Facebook prefer Paul Simon to Bob Dylan. We're living in endtimes all right.


I turned on the telly last night, and there was a man eating frogs. It is hard not to conclude that civilisation is winding down.
All the same though, I didn't think the end would come so soon. Here I've been, footling away for the last few years, op-shopping, painting my nails, drinking cups of tea, when all along the sands in the hourglass were running away like water.
Time held me green and dying, as the poet Dylan Thomas says. Time held us all, actually, while the politicians fought over sustainable living and reusable lightbulbs and we cooked our food and watched TV.
Not to worry. It's over soon. We're nearly done.
Of course, if D-Day is tomorrow, that doesn't give us much time. A day. Less if you're reading this in the lunchroom at noon.
I'm annoyed, I had plans for the weekend. It's an ill wind though, I had no idea how I was going to pay my tax.
A lot can happen in a day of course, and a day can be a long time, as anyone who's ever sat through one in a hospital bed, or in a prison cell may attest. And if there is a day left to us, just one day, then comes the immortal question - what will you do with yours?
You could start a war, or a family. Get drunk, get married, get a tattoo. If you got up early enough you could probably write a book, or you could sleep in all day and get up in the evening for fish and chips and a DVD.
You could have sex, buy shoes, play with your babies, take a walk in the leaves, or wash the car. You could just sit still and do nothing at all. What you should do though, is seek the greatest value of your actions, whatever you choose to do.
Those aren't my words, they're Stephen Hawking's. We should seek the greatest value of our actions, is what he said when he was interviewed last week. Unlike Harold Camping, Stephen Hawking does not believe in God.
In fact, he's doing a fairly solid job of proving conclusively that the universe came into existence without Him, using M-theory; his Theory of Everything is the most exciting thing to happen in physics since E=MC squared. This is the reason Stephen Hawking has been in The Simpsons and is the most famous physicist in the world.
Presumably Stephen isn't too worried about the Rapture this weekend. He thinks heaven "is a fairy story for people who are afraid of the dark".
He says there's no afterlife, that our brains power down like computers when we die. This is very depressing to me for many reasons.
I like the idea of heaven, especially if Truman Capote and Elizabeth Taylor are up there, but you can't argue with Hawking's exhortation, whether you believe the Rapture is coming or not.
Seek the ultimate value of your actions, says the atheist. In other words, make it count. Make it count. I'd like to see Hawking's advice married to Harold Camping's prediction for this weekend.
Make it count tomorrow. Do all the things that matter to you, do nothing else. Write letters, spill secrets, make declarations, hold your beloved in your arms.
If everyone, save for fundamentalist suicide bombers, does what the physicist enjoins, then tomorrow is shaping up to be a great day.
A day of revelations and grand gestures. A day that could change the world. And if Harold's got his numbers wrong again, and Sunday rolls around as usual, at least the papers will be good.
By Noelle McCarthy




that's right folks. you read right. Come friday it is "the beginning of the end":wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:



 
You know what, it's already past 5:30AM May 20th, 2011 in Japan by now (and I'm even +1 GMT currently), and I don't think anything has happened.

Instead, I know a group of atheists are throwing parties to mock the idea of a rapture happening.

But this whole idea of predicting when the endtimes is going to happen is just a combination of an unhealthy obsession with the bible and numerology. It's not new, it's failed multiple times, and there's really no reason to believe it's going to happen just because you can add a bunch of arbitrary numbers from a book written by some poor sod who doesn't even know what he's doing for these people from the future. Even if Camping were the first guy to make a prediction about the endtimes, I'd still call it nonsense. If the best evidence you have for the endtimes is a fairytale book and some random math operations you pulled out of your ass, I'm not convinced, and I don't think other people need to be either.
 
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i forgot to mention,

I personally don't believe that it will happen.



But if it does...........:holyshit:


The only End Times prediction that I believe will happen will be the Mayan prediction of December 21'st 2012. (shit. we have a whole nother year left.)

oh and if you read the article correctley, the guy that made the prediction is not affiliated with the Christian Church, he is using his own interpretation of the Bible as the basis for his prediction(which he already predicted almost 15 years ago(and got it wrong then too)


Can you say CULT????????????
 
The only End Times prediction that I believe will happen will be the Mayan prediction of December 21'st 2012. (shit. we have a whole nother year left.)
I can't tell if you're serious or not, but if you are: That's silly. You're silly. Regardless, some people actually believe that.

The Mayan calendar was arranged in long periods of baktuns. These periods are about 394 years long. The last period on their calendars ends in our year of 2012, not the whole calendar. If they were still around they would have just tacked another baktun onto the end.

As far as the Rapture thing is concerned... I find it funny that people believe in something so baseless and absurd, but also terrified that people believe in something so baseless and absurd. Though I have this view towards a lot of religious things, like worshiping a meteorite.
 
All I know is that I'm a Freshers Helper at my Uni this year, and we're having a Freshers Helpers Day Out on saturday. The end of the world is meant to be on saturday. COINCIDENCE? I think not.
 
i forgot to mention,

I personally don't believe that it will happen.



But if it does...........:holyshit:


The only End Times prediction that I believe will happen will be the Mayan prediction of December 21'st 2012. (shit. we have a whole nother year left.)

So you're taking the word of an ancient civilisation that used to sacrifice humans to the Gods to make the crops grow? A civilisation who couldn't even prevent their own downfall, let alone predict what would happen thousands of years into the future. Yeah, that's not ridiculous at all.

As for this current end times crap. Can anyone say 'Heavens Gate?' They were convinced they were right, and oh look, we're all still alive. It's just hysteria.
 
of course its not gunna happen. Life will continue as it alwyas has, and will. At least for a long time.
 
I don't but if you believe it will, I'll take all your things! :awesome:

I'll be honest, I can't wait until tomorrow I keep seeing so much "Jesus Saves" stuff around, it's getting quite annoying. However, every time I see those signs, my first thought is "holy crap! I didn't know Jesus played ice hockey!"

The world will not end on December 21, 2012 either. And the good thing about it is, even if it does end, no one will be around to shove it in my face that I was wrong!
 
When is this supposed to happen today? I'm still here now.

It was hilarious the amount of people that were actually freaked out at my job. This one chick damn near flipped out and got pissed at me because I just laughed my ass off at her. I mean, seriously. Everything will be fine. Wow, we hire a lot of gullible, stupid people at my job.
 
I think it is a travesty that somebody would get people worked up on such a thing. The Bible specifically speaks on nobody knowing the day or the hour, and that it will happen like a thief in the night. Where this arrogance of certain individuals come from is beyond me.
Though Revelations, among other things, is open to interpretation, Harold Camping brought on an idea that didn't fit mine from the get go.
For one, there will be a time of uncommon good before things turn ugly. From what I understand, the world doesn't exactly turn in the blink of an eye as he put it. Two, there are seven seals and the beast from the sea (which you can safely bet is the Antichrist, arising from the sea of people). But most of all, 5-7 years of this. Not 5 months :D
The prophecies marked by Jesus will unfold (Jews see them as new beginnings, Christians see them as apocalyptic) such as the holy nation returning to Isreal.
And well, there is much, much more.
I understand that the Bible is canonized to be as prophetic and accurate as possible (though Protestants threw out a few books), but Revelations seemed to go almost completely ignored by Camping in my own opinion.
 
The Bible specifically speaks on nobody knowing the day or the hour . . .
See, you're right in saying that his prediction won't happen. But the reason why you're saying it is kinda silly. His arbitrary decision has the same weight as the arbitrary, insane ravings of John of Patmos. Actually, I'm curious about this: If you believe that the Book of Revelation will eventually happen, doesn't that mean you believe in the gift of prophecy? How do you tell the difference between real and fake prophecies?



On Saturday in my town, there was a bunch of empty sets of clothes on the side walks. Fantastic joke! I've heard it happened in a bunch of other places, too.

And if you missed the parties that people threw on Saturday in mockery, don't worry, there should be plenty in 2012. Though I guess the even funnier part is that quite a lot of people will be legitimately concerned about the end of the world.

I guess thinking you can predict the end of the world is just one of those bits of human craziness that we're going to repeat forever.
 

I guess thinking you can predict the end of the world is just one of those bits of human craziness that we're going to repeat forever.

What I actually find so amusing about this is that some people actually want some sort of rapture to happen. It's a bit disturbing that some people actually find joy in this, but I imagine they want it to happen because it makes their lives more exciting. Either that or they've been indoctrinated to the point where something this crazy makes them happy. I mean there's lots of things we would consider too crazy to do or go along with unless we were brainwashed into believing it, and religious indoctrination happens to be one of the best ways in which that happens.
 
It's a bit disturbing that some people actually find joy in this, but I imagine they want it to happen because it makes their lives more exciting.
Actually, that reminds me a bit of people wanting a zombie apocalypse to happen. I mean, part of that includes a bit of an urge to want to bash our fellow man's face in without restraint or guilt, but yeah.

I mean there's lots of things we would consider too crazy to do or go along with unless we were brainwashed into believing it, and religious indoctrination happens to be one of the best ways in which that happens.
That's certainly true. But then again people still believe in the whole 2012 Mayan thing, and that is divorced from religion. I guess both operate under the principle that if you repeat something enough people will start believing it.
 
We had some lightning that night. I don't think anyone I know genuinely believed the world was going to end. I didn't even know about it until my mate made a joke about the lightning.

People always seem to think the world is coming to an end in one way or another; Middle Ages, Cold war etc etc.. I think this instance was particularly retarded. Some random guy share's his interpretation of a book and shit unfurls...(EDIT: now that I think about it, that happens far too often)
 
See, you're right in saying that his prediction won't happen. But the reason why you're saying it is kinda silly. His arbitrary decision has the same weight as the arbitrary, insane ravings of John of Patmos. Actually, I'm curious about this: If you believe that the Book of Revelation will eventually happen, doesn't that mean you believe in the gift of prophecy? How do you tell the difference between real and fake prophecies?
Jesus also said to beware of false prophets and liars. It's funny that the world has actually gotten bad enough for people to find joy in an apocalyptic event.
If the silliness lies in the Bible, in the idea that you don't believe in God, then that is your own thought. I think it should be taken a bit more seriously seeing how mankind is likely to doom itself anyways. There is a lot of truth to be found of the human condition within the canon that a scientist couldn't fathom.
All this mocking and joking and even the heralded people such as Hawkings and Dawkins know the slim probability of human prosperity.

Anyways, that above is to set the tone for this:
Human arrogance.
A scary truth that any person would do well to know is that mankind is probably walking into it's own trap, ignoring what lies around the corner, blaming religion or vice versa. I can tell what prophecies are real and which ones are not out of sheer observation.

On a more religious note, as soon as the Jews find their king, Christians are going to think him as the Antichrist. It just so happens that nearly 2000 years later, things are coming to a head, which is something mere desert nomads could not have possibly calculated. False prophets and the like, militant atheists, it goes on and on.

But back to the more general idea, people who actually think the world is improving is a reasonable notion for the religious to heed these signs, because in my own opinion, that is a fools theory.
 
I do not buy into this either guys...but I would like to inform yall of something.

May 21st is judgement day, the start of the end. October 21st is the end of the world.

Actually there are a number of websites that use quoted lines from both the old testament(Moses) and the new testament(revelations) that specifically point to this date. I will not link any of these sites because I do not think anyone would even read them, just blindly state its bullshit. Honestly so many people think the Bible is bullshit and these days do promote resolution regarding the truthfullness of the Bible. Wether it happens or not its intresting to me because many Bible thumpers can bite their tounges, and if it does happen than so can the skeptics. However there is a lot of numbers and signs promoting these two dates, and if you really want to see them than ask and I shall dig them up and link them.

I would also like to point out that these dates and beliefs have been in circulation long before crazy advertisment man. Its not a original hypothosis. And the sites I have researched are religious sites claiming it is a time for prayer for that this is the word of god. Most of the sources I have viewed are actually are not creations of fear but more about prayer. Also some of the previous sources do not include the excat dates but use the same crap.

Any way here is the actual harold breakdown if you want to take a look at it for yourself before you decide if the man is just crazy or actually a very attentive Religious advocate.


http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/outreach/tracts/may21/

Let us see.

P.S. If it does happen....please choose the right side wether you believed in god or not before hand. I can honestly say as a follower of no religion...if the rapture happens...Fuck joining the anti christ =)
 
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i cant beleive the idiots that have given away their life savings over this, fuckin insane. And then they are like, flabergasted that we are all still here

GET A GRIP
 
The Bible, I think, does not speak on a 'Rapture', but rather speaks on end times. From what I gather, there is no Trinity either, as it limits God.
I feel that God exists in all who follow Him, and that they are the ones that are preserved in end times. All who is not dies, as one is only flesh otherwise and goes enters the realms of the fallen.
I believe that the 'Rapture' has been heavily fabricated. The Bible is very spiritual, resulting in a defined difference of light and dark, good and evil, divine and abomination. Jesus is the perfect example, the king, and our leading man in the face of prophesy (which Harold Camping miserably gets wrong)
 
The Bible, I think, does not speak on a 'Rapture', but rather speaks on end times. From what I gather, there is no Trinity either, as it limits God.
I feel that God exists in all who follow Him, and that they are the ones that are preserved in end times. All who is not dies, as one is only flesh otherwise and goes enters the realms of the fallen.
I believe that the 'Rapture' has been heavily fabricated. The Bible is very spiritual, resulting in a defined difference of light and dark, good and evil, divine and abomination. Jesus is the perfect example, the king, and our leading man in the face of prophesy (which Harold Camping miserably gets wrong)


I'm curious, you are saying this Christian God(who is apparently benevolent from what I learnt from my mama and in church every Saturday) is going to dictate who is consigned to perdition based on those who believe in him. So a good man who is an atheist is damned, and a raping murderer who believes in God would be saved?
 
I'm curious, you are saying this Christian God(who is apparently benevolent from what I learnt from my mama and in church every Saturday) is going to dictate who is consigned to perdition based on those who believe in him. So a good man who is an atheist is damned, and a raping murderer who believes in God would be saved?

Just because one believes in God doesn't mean they are going to Heaven. The Adversary certainly believes in God.
The simple fact is that if people cannot follow on Earth, they will not do so in the afterlife, and so Heaven becomes tainted and everyone suffers further.
There really is no such thing as a good human, let alone a good atheist. Secular ideas of good only continue evil, and that is what Revelation is all about. See, people are going to free fall on such ideas and the world is going to go bad really fast.
The bible speaks on many Antichrists all around us, with a leading one at the eventual climax and a false prophet to boot.
 
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