Spam should have post count

[blakstang98]

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that these feedback threads have become spam threads with post counts? Nobody should be complaining about spam posts not being legit posts when the same people post in these threads everyday, which increases post count.

I also find it odd that even though the staff addressed the concerns of these said suggestions, they were left open, for more posts (which increases post count). I was always under the impression that if a question in a thread was answered, that the thread was locked.

So why bitch about spam posts not increasing post count when you're doing it in this thread and getting away with it? Be thankful instead.

 

[Rasputin]

That would create the same problem.

No it wouldn't, because people wouldn't feel the need to artificially inflate their post count, therefore decreasing spam all over the board. Ideally we wouldn't even display post count, but I suppose removing the vet board requirements would be a start.

So why bitch about spam posts not increasing post count when you're doing it in this thread and getting away with it? Be thankful instead.

Because increasing post count isn't be a privilege, it's just changing of a number that's attached to our profile. There's nothing to be thankful for. Heck, it shouldn't even matter in the first place. People who have more of it don't necessarily spend any more time posting than those don't. It's simply a matter of quality vs quantity, and the more we treat it like a high score, the more we encourage people to put down their thought with the least amount of effort they can get away with.

 

[CassinoChips]

No it wouldn't, because people wouldn't feel the need to artificially inflate their post count, therefore decreasing spam all over the board. Ideally we wouldn't even display post count, but I suppose removing the vet board requirements would be a start.

I think I misunderstood what you were saying. But I think I still disagree either way. If you're saying that we should remove the requirements to get into the Veterans' Lounge and/or remove the Lounge entirely, which would decrease spam because it would remove an incentive to pump up one's post count, I would disagree because it's not that great of a cookie, tbh. So it would have no effect.

If you're saying that we should remove all rules from sections of the forums, essentially making all forums PCD, which would decrease spam because.... well... I don't know what the reasoning there would be, I would disagree because I've been on boards where there were no length requirements, and one out of ten posts is longer than 5 words.

Because increasing post count isn't be a privilege, it's just changing of a number that's attached to our profile. There's nothing to be thankful for. Heck, it shouldn't even matter in the first place. People who have more of it don't necessarily spend any more time posting than those don't. It's simply a matter of quality vs quantity, and the more we treat it like a high score, the more we encourage people to put down their thought with the least amount of effort they can get away with.

It isn't a privilege. I don't think anybody really treats it as such, except maybe to themselves. It's not like we have a pecking order in terms of the top posters. And, like I said, the Vet's Lounge is what it is, and that isn't spectacular.

Frankly, it's those who make post counts an issue that ... well ... make post counts an issue. Until it's been brought up so much recently, I don't think I've ever seen a discussion about it in any form, here or in HQ.

 

[Gingerbread Lesbian]

Post count will remain. Post count will remain how it is and will not change in any section.

Trufacts.

 

[Gaige]

I'm gonna be blunt here.

Spam is spam. At the end of the day it's entertaining, but ultimately pointless shit that goes on for a length of time then burns out. You're asking for increased post count for posting a weird picture or saying lol? Oh yeah, that's contributory in a Final Fantasy forum. I mean, not all forums have a place for spam. Some are strict on what can be discussed and what can't be. This place? Not so much. And if you can't be arsed to post outside of non post count sections, tough shit. Your decision. Deal with it.

 

[Rasputin]

Post count will remain. Post count will remain how it is and will not change in any section.

Trufacts.

This has nothing to do with changing the current system, it's merely acknowledging that it upsets people and doesn't work at preventing spam. But I'm glad we've come to a consensus though.

 

[Dean Winchester]

People will spam regardless of how many times you change the system. There will always be the ones who can contribute to the forums with their posts and those who will simply make a paragraph that can be summarized in "I agree".

Besides, post count is shit if you ask me. After you get the 1000 posts it becomes quite pointless since the Vets Lounge is only a more selective, spam section.

Heck it even reminds me to the Chit Chat Thread in the Staff Lounge

 

[Gingerbread Lesbian]

This has nothing to do with changing the current system

There are people wanting change though, which brought about the OP.

it's merely acknowledging that it upsets people

Why would it upset people? Those who don't care about post count shouldn't be upset and those who do care, well...can post more.

and doesn't work at preventing spam.

Any sort of change wouldn't work any better.

 

[Davey Gaga]

I think things are fine as they are. Removing or allowing post count increments in every section would have pretty much the same effect - the value of a post would be removed and there'd be no reason to moderate posts for anything that isn't illegal.

In hindsight, I think if anything is to be changed it should be how strict we are when it comes to 'effort' in posts (having been one of the moderators who enforced this rule to the letter). This comes up time and time again but I think (now) as long as someone's on-topic and not just using the thread as a clear way to get in to the RPG, then there's no harm in it. Members are pretty much set in their places á la post counts (e.g. the top 5 will probably be the top 5 for quite some time, if not then it'll remain quite fluid) so there's no point in anyone using post counts to try and climb the ladder. There has to be an incentive to posting something of any quality at all, though, so post counts should stay. Equally if they were enabled everywhere then members would be disheartened by the fact that spam was valued similarly to their more insightful posts, so post count should not be enabled anywhere else.

Rules should stay as they are just now but with a little reconsideration. Sure, encourage good posting and such like but don't annoy members with over-moderating and being zealous if something's less than two lines. I don't think we can put a clear cut line between spam and posts that contribute, and I don't think we should try either. Just keep using discretion but don't be zealous.

...might have gone a bit off-track but it's all mildly relevant to current issues.

 

[Channizard]

I'll admit postcounting Spam would be kinda redundant, but there are some legit sub forums that should use post count, like the clubs. Why isn't there post count there? As far as I've checked, there isn't really any spam going on there.

edit: Actually, the whole of Bevelle for that matter.

 

[Terra Branford]

I'll admit postcounting Spam would be kinda redundant, but there are some legit sub forums that should use post count, like the clubs. Why isn't there post count there? As far as I've checked, there isn't really any spam going on there.

edit: Actually, the whole of Bevelle for that matter.

I don't really care if the SPam section doesn't have post count.

Now, the clubs should have post count

What they said.

I can understand how spam won't give you post count, but what about the fanclub section, or all of Bevelle? Why don't we have post count there?

And for welcoming members. There aren't a lot of members pouring into that section to cut postcount, or so I think anyway....

I'm not a hundred percent sure about this (meaning I'm not sure if they get postcount or not), but what about the roleplaying section? How is that different than the fanclub area?

Just my two-cents, so...I guess I'll leave for now

 

[Channizard]

Tbf, The RP Section has whole stories going on. To not count a post of 1000 characters would be kinda dumb.

But Bevelle has legit discussions going on

 

[Terra Branford]

Yes, but they are both fan-based areas.

 

[Busta]

The discussion of making Fan-Clubs and the RP's and whatever else that can take time and stay on-topic post count areas, is being discussed.

The Spam Colosseum and any other area similar to it found deep in the Costa Del Sol where numerous posts of ".", "LOL SMILEYYFACE", or a random picture of your neighbor's dog humping a broomstick can be posted for post count, will not be counted.

If we make the other areas though post count though like Clubs, we will make an announcement about it in those sections and let everyone know because then we will start to make sure whatever is being discussed there stays on-topic and relevant.

As for now though like I stated, the Spam Colosseum is remaining non-post-count.

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