Santa as a bad influence

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Well, he could be, if some health and safety campaigners have their way. A team of health experts have accused Santa of promoting obesity and drink-driving.
They say a fat, tipsy Father Christmas with no regard for health and safety sends out the wrong message to children and they want to give him a makeover.
‘We propose a new image for Santa to ensure that his influence on public health is a positive one,’ said researcher Dr Nathan Grills of Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.
He said the tradition of leaving a glass of sherry out for Santa could be seen to promote drink-driving.
‘With a few billion houses to visit Santa would soon be over the limit,’ he added.
Other dangerous activities he could be accused of promoting include speeding, disregard for the Highway Code and extreme sports such as roof surfing and chimney jumping. Despite the risks of high-speed air travel Santa is ‘never seen wearing a seat belt or a helmet’.
Dr Grills wants Santa to hop off his speedy sleigh and jog his way around the world, he writes in the British Medical Journal.
He also thinks the usual mince pie left out for him should be replaced with healthy celery or carrot sticks.
Santa also used to appear in ads for cigarettes in the 1930s but that has now been banned – thank goodness, or the Aussie researchers would have blown a gasket.
The charge sheet

Speeding
Taking time zones into account, Santa has about 31 hours to deliver an estimated 700million gifts on Christmas Eve. To accomplish this, his sleigh would need to be travelling at just under 1,600km (1,000 miles) a second.
Obesity
If he visits 156million homes and has a mince pie in each of them, Santa will consume 31billion calories – enough to keep him going for the rest of the year.
Drink-driving
Visiting households at a rate of 1,400 per second, Santa would be over the legal drink-drive limit in a flash if he downed a 25ml measure of sherry with each delivery. He would be more than 47million times over the limit by the end of the night.
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This is a complete and utter joke. Santa is fictional and people will moan about anything nowadays! Its stupid they are going on about speeding obesity and drink driving. For God sake, he isnt fucking real! He is meant to be the jolly fat man, not some skinny bugger who can just about pick up a sack of presents. Whats next?? Animal rights stepping in for Rudolph?!
 
Well that's bullshit, we all know Santa drinks coke. It told me so on the Coca-Cola adverts :mokken: On a more serious note, which sad bastard sits there working out how many calories he has, how much he has to drink and how fast he's going? Next we'll be saying we shouldn't have Christmas Trees because it's a fire hazard or we'll have to replace Reindeer's because it's cruelty to animals and such like. The only people who believe in Santa are young children so it's hardly a bad image >.>
 
I'm surprised we haven't got the Grinch's image changed because of his poor hygeine and body hair :gonk:

Seriously, why complain over anything? Who cares what Santa is supposed to portray? It's a once a year thing and kids are barely involved in anyway, as far as leaving the food and drink are concerned (when I was a kid we always left out a mince pie and chocolate milk anyway :wacky:)

Are we not allowed anything traditional anymore? It's just getting stupid now :jtc:
 
Well Ive been told that we may have to start saying "Merry Winter" instead of "Merry Christmas" as some religions apprantly find that offensive!! Its making me sick now. My godsons school wont let them use tea towels on their heads when they have shephards in the school nativy. Even baby Jesus was removed from the nativy scene!!
 
I think if anything Santa is killing himself with too much Lactose. He makes a good milk advertiser to be honest, and it helps build strong bones in our kids! As for the eating mince meat pie and cookies at least Santa isn't an anorexic. I'd rather have a fat Santa then a Santa who's afraid to eat.

Those red cheeks remind me of someone on the forum :jimberry: care to enlighten us oh jim jim.
 
Honestly, religions just go too far nowadays, I have no problem with their worshipping and shit but it's when they start trying to force their beliefs like this, and saying that other religions' beliefs are ofending their's so we have to stop it so they don't whine :jtc:

You can't have anything anymore without some religious nut throwng a hissy fit over it >_>
 
We have to call it the festive period as well rather than the Xmas holidays. It's pathetic, I'm not going to into a whole religious debate otherwise I'd be here for hours but I can't be doing with other religions coming into England trying to change our culture. If they're so bothered then just fuck off back out of England >.>

Although Tyler did bring up a good point, I thought it was tradition to give him milk anyway? I always did >.>
 
Yeah, I dunno where Sherry came from, I never viewed Santa as one for alcohol anyway, though it does explain the rosy cheeks a bit :wacky:

And I agree Ryan, if they don't like England, don't ruin it for the people living here, there are other countries if you're not satisfied with England :jtc:
 
Mrs. Claus said:
And I agree Ryan, if they don't like England, don't ruin it for the people living here, there are other countries if you're not satisfied with England :jtc:
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I dont want to pull people into a religious debate either as some people may get offended. But it is indeed annoying because beliefs and traditions people are brought up on and enjoy are either being altered or removed completely.

I always left milk, mince pie and a carrot for his reindeer. Think we left sherry one year as a special treat lol. As someone mentioned, its once a year, so why is it a bad influence???
 
Yeah, I think the vast majority of people leave milk, a mince pie and a carrot or another vegetable for the reindeer. I think Sherry is just one tradition people don't follow (probably because milk price>Sherry price or something xD)

So really, I don't see what harm it would do, if anything I always viewed Santa as the type to drink coke and eat mince pies, alcohol never occured to me xD

Besides, parents are the ones feeding their kids so how is what they leave santa at christmas affecting the kids if they aren't feeding themselves? (as far as choosing food etc)
 
Wow...talk about overkill. Are there going to be "no fun" signs around in the near future? Santa is an icon for commercial Christmas spirit. He adds a little excitement and magic for the kids, and he's a familiar face for the rest of us. Health freaks need to learn to calm down a little. They've already ruined junk food, school dinners and even bloody cartoons for children, they're not ruining Christmas as well.

As for saying "Merry Winter"...religious people who find that offensive can bugger off. I find it extremely offensive that they have the audacity to trespass on my property and start telling me that I have to convert to their religion or burn in hell, but I don't make an issue out of it. Nobody is forcing them to celebrate it. We don't make issues out of their holidays. They can respect us and do the same or keep quiet.
 
thats so stupid. okay we never left santa sherry, i always thought it was milk? and disregard for the highway? the Bitch flies hes not using the highway so also the speed limit is out if hes flying, we going to start giving tickets out to passenger airliners because they are going over highway speed limits? I guess we are all bad influences. and who is trying to jump down chimneys? what parent is letting their child play on the roof. "Mommy Mommy, can me and Timmy go on the roof?" "Sure Honey have fun." if i ever heard this i would smack the mother. so who ever wrote that is just stupid and should go fall in a hole
 
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Ha ha ha. :D That is completely ludicrous.

It amazes me when I see people actually thinking like that and wanting to change things...

I just say "screw them". Cultures and myths make the world interesting, and help create identity for the people within them. Why should we have to give it up just because we do things in some way and other people do not?

If anyone tries to get me to say "Merry Winter" then I'll just say "nah, it's our culture to call it Christmas here".

I don't think it is harsh or insulting to people who don't believe in it. When I go to other countries I expect to see their cultures and what they like to do and have done traditionally for centuries. I don't want to walk into New Britain. If I went to live in another country I'd appreciate that things are going to be different and aren't going to be like Britain, and I'd respect the differences there and how they have different lifestyles. I wouldn't want to ruin the country by forcing them to remove all of their traditions just to make me feel more comfortable.

It should be the same here too. But I think most of it isn't even a fuss being kicked off by people moving here and feeling uncomfortable. I think a lot of it is actually people here suddenly being fearful of upsetting people, and also fearful in general (hence health and safety stuff) when the dangers are either ludicrous or imagined.

I don't see why we should lose our traditions, while we let others carry on with their traditions without issue. We should all just be let be, ourselves included. Attacking things like this only causes more issues for foreigners anyway, as it'll make more people hate them and feel like Britain is being overun and destroyed from within, and it'll cause racial hatred and more supporters for the BNP.

This isn't even religiously or racially motivated either, which is even sillier. This is people concerned with 'elf and safety too much, and applying it to a semi-mythical figure. It's stupid to try and change the image of Santa, and frankly it just won't happen. People won't change his image and personality until Coke decides to change his image.

As for what I left for him... I left ginger wine, a mince pie and a carrot (for Rudolph). I think I've heard of the sherry thing though, but we never did it as my parents were non-alcoholic.


Nilladar said:
so who ever wrote that is just stupid and should go fall in a hole
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Hear, hear!


"Madness? THIS... IS... SANTA!!!!" *kicks down hole*

I'd love to see that.
 
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I seen this bolockery on the news this morning and was like...wat? Santa needs to eat more healthily and lose a bit of weight?! Draw the cunt thinner then :ffs: Its the image we've had for yonks, I really dont think Santa eating pies and wotnot is going to make a blind bit of difference to kids being fat, Id say people need to look closer to home rather than blaming the media for everything because its the easier option

EVERYONE over indulges at Crimbo anyway, so why should Santa have to eat carrots when we're all chowing down on Quality Streets and Roses :mokken:

It's the one time of year where we can eat shite guilt free.
 
Too lazy to read through all the posts so I'm just going by what I skimmed through. This is absolutely ridiculous. I think people are taking this stuff way too far! You know, Santa Claus is supposed to be for the young children! People start bitching about this and it takes away from the magic of Christmas for the little ones which is what I want to give my son. I can remember how excited I got on Christmas Eve knowing Santa would be coming down my chimney and leaving presents under my tree and toys and stuff in my stocking. It always felt so magical to me and left my heart racing and feeling excited.

No child should have to have that ripped from them because of what the media and critics want to push forward. Santa promoting obesity? Give me a fucking BREAK. It's unreal how people just find the smallest things or most wonderful things to go and bitch about and try to ruin for others. It makes me downright sick. And this whole "Happy Winter' thing I saw somebody posted? You know they can't even say "Merry Christmas" anymore, it's "Happy Holidays." And the famous Christmas Tree? Oh it's called the Holiday Tree now. It absolutely disgusts me the way the media, critics and religion have to go and ruin the magic and spirit of Christmas over petty bullshit such as that.
 
Wow, a serious debate on Santa being a bad influence. The image of Santa has been around for over 100 years. Santa's only fault is he is a bit overweight. But he seems to be pretty healthy for a fat guy. No, Santa's only vice is he drinks loads of milk and eats cookies. Probably the reason he is fat. Both contain loads of fat.

Well, I do not think Santa is a bad image. He just loves his :cookie: and milk. After all he is a very giving person. Travels the world giving gifts to all.
 
The whole image with Santa being fat is part of his character. He's supposed to be a really fat, jolly old man who brings smiles on young childrens' faces and happiness to them on Christmas morning. I just don't understand why people are actually trying to tarnish Santa's image after all this time. It just puts me to my other conclusion; people love to bitch and complain and will find anything they can to bitch over. Even if that means ruining something as endearing as Santa. It's infuriating.
 
UM the note is silly and whoever came up with those Santa facts has seriously, waay too much time on their hands. -_____-'';

People are starting to call Christmas, Merry Winter now ?. That doesn't make too much sense if you live in somewhere in NZ or Aussie where Christmas time is actually Summer.
" Merry Winter !, oh BTW enjoy the 34 degrees heat today ! " >>

Can understand why religious people could possibly be upset over the Media and people trying to change Christmas into Merry Winter ( WTF ?) and the Christmas tree into the Holiday the Tree. Mean, Christmas is a religious hoilday it's meant to celebrate the birth of Jesus/ the heavenly savior. If you try and take away what people believe in, people are BOUND to be pissed/ upset. Can also understand the tree thing, the Christmas tree is another symbol of Jesus's sacrifice and that he died for our sins. A person was caught trying to sacrifice his son on the ( what is now the Christmas tree) to the God of Thor, and the person who tried to sacrifice his son to Thor was reminded that he no longer needed to sacrifice, because of Jesus's sacrifice..

If you believe in Jesus and his sacrifice, and hear the Christmas Tree be called the * Holiday Tree * , that person is just bound to be very upset/ heartbroken by it. It's a christian hoilday, what's so wrong with calling it the Christmas Tree and saying Merry Christmas ?
Without the Christmas part of it, Christmas just turns into a crazy- shopping day to buy the latest item and where people get crushed. killed, or harmed just for a toy.

Seriously, if you dont want to call it Merry Christmas day, then call it " Murder in the shopping mall day, - because that would make more sense, than Winter- Day. xD

On the subject of Santa, we are so PC these days. Wouldn't be surprised if they try and turn Santa into a Size 6 model who enjoys being a vegetation.. >> and runs around the world instead of using a Sleigh.. ( how Silly is that ?? xD)

 
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This is why I don't allow myself to get offended by anything anymore. When you get offended easily by things you become one of the people who do things like try to change Santa. I mean really who really thinks that that's the best thing they can do with their time is complain about Santa Claus.

Santa doesn't drink alcohol. I challenge someone to find any story for children where Santa drinks anything besides, milk, hot chocolate, or egg nog. Well at least in America we leave milk and cookies and maybe carrots for the reindeer that's it.

EDIT:I guess he drinks Sherry in Europe

TO MRS. CLAUSE Religious people may ruin things, but people just do that randomly as well. Like this whole Santa thing isn't being led by a religious faction.
 
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I'm sorry, I just cannot take that seriously.

What are we going to do, starve an imaginary person? We going to deprive him of his imaginary cookies by shoving them down our imaginary demon from hell's throat?

I feel stupid for even trying to say they're a dumbass.
 
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