My Viewpoints

[Tedius Zanarukando]

There is already a book that criticizes the idea of women in trousers.

Instead of trousers, women may wear skirts, shorts, capris, or skintight leggings. I did attend a workforce training center where female clients are forced to wear trousers. I do not like for women to work in places with a trousers-exclusive dress code, such as some restaurants and factories.

 

[Rockman X]

There is already a book that criticizes the idea of women in trousers.

Insufficient evidence.

1. You didn't give us the name of the book.
2. Seeing as how it's a book rather than an instinct bred into people defining core morals, it's someone's opinion.

You cannot provide evidence that it's wrong because there is no evidence and it isn't wrong. It must have been torture for you when you watched Star Wars and Princess Leia went from wearing a pretty white dress to pants.

Instead of trousers, women may wear skirts, shorts, capris, or skintight leggings. I did attend a workforce training center where female clients are forced to wear trousers. I do not like for women to work in places with a trousers-exclusive dress code, such as some restaurants and factories.

You failed to see what I said in my last post. Generally the only places that have dress codes like that do it for safety reasons.

 

[Tethar]

I've had a read through your views Tedius and I have to say I disagree with all of them on the simple basis that you are generalizing women.

A persons gender does not define every single aspect of their life and assuming something based on a persons gender either male or female is sexist.

I honestly don't know either way but have you ever actually talked with one or more women about these views you have? I very much doubt there are any who would agree with you. I for one can't imagine any of the women I know agreeing with you and the female members of this forum don't agree with you either.



I myself have had a lot of views over the years that have turned out to be wrong. My advice to you is to step back look at your own views with a detached eye and take some time to talk with other people of both genders about your views and their's and try and see where your views are considered wrong by other people and try and understand why that is.

 

[L]

female fashion that complies with male wishes (or girly girl fashion)

What is "girly girl" fashion?

You say "Complies with male wishes" as if you're speaking for every male. I absolutely despise skirts; they're horrible things to be seen in. I like women in denim jeans and tight shirts, to be perfectly honest.

If I cannot contest my ban from TFF, I will take the case to court and maybe have TFF shutdown.

Brings a whole new meaning the phrase "internet is serious business". I'm sure that in the terms of registration on any vBulletin forum says the staff has the right to log your IP, delete your account, ban your account, ban your IP from our site, watch and observe your online activity, delete or edit your posts to how we see fit.

As per terms of registration, you would look like quite the baffled one in court, ser.

I have a good reason for my opinion. Professional advancement can come without the expense of femininity. If you could give me the time, then I could explain my opinion. There are some passages in the Bible that support my opinion in regards to women. I am not trying to force this opinion on you.

You've really got all the time in the world to explain.

As for the bible statement, try to remember you're talking to teenagers. The majority of them don't even take concern to christianity or religion; most teenagers are atheists.

However, I believe that the forum staves have been deceived by dominant culture.

That's like saying that you're amazed everyone is wearing skater shoes just because you're wearing platform boots from the 70's. It's not just staff that's taken by modern dominant culture, it's the majority of the world's population.

You need to realize that women are different from men. Feminists did not accept that fact. Female fashion cannot be the same as male fashion. I am not saying that women belong to the kitchen. Feminism can lend itself to female superiority, and it has lent itself to the rise of male crime.

I find it hard to believe women are any different from men aside biological structure.

Female fashion cannot be the same as male fashion.

Basically what you're saying here is that creativity and experimentation should be denied. Take a look at history. Everything was built on creativity and experimentation. Denying creativity and experimentation is denying history itself.

There's not much point worrying about what someone else is wearing; be thankful someone was genius enough to create clothes.

I can show you evidence that wearing short hair or trousers is wrong.

That would merely be an opininon, not a fact.

I do not like for women to work in places with a trousers-exclusive dress code, such as some restaurants and factories.

[echo=Vengefulronin]Safety precautions.[/echo]

 

[Lady Mjrn]

....So does this mean that you dislike half the female Final Fantasy population? As well as 95% of every female anime character ever made?
Damn, I suppose that most every women(including myself) should start wearing wigs, and burn all of our ties and suit shirts...

I enjoy frilly, 'girly-girl' outfits.. however, I'm also known to be quite tomboyish(one of my friends said that she'd crush on me if I was a guy. X_____o)

Honestly, I'm just wondering how you manage to live day-to day, because EVERYWHERE you go women are wearing *GASPSHOCKOUTRAGE*trousers, have short hair, and are working in places where traditionally before the 1960's, only men would have worked. Take my job for example: I operate 3 multi-million dollar operations at Walt Disney World, Florida in the Magic Kingdom, one of which involves opening and closing ride vehicles that I swear to Shiva weigh at LEAST 100 lbs. My costume is VERY masculine, and with my haircut and very thin frame, it can be quite difficult from some angles to even realize that I've actually got boobes.

Ignorance will get you nowhere, sorry to say.

 

[Donald Trump]

There is already a book that criticizes the idea of women in trousers

there is a book called mein kampf and it blames jews for all of germany's problems.
books like that are written by people with agendas and should not be taken seriously.

Instead of trousers, women may wear skirts, shorts, capris, or skintight leggings

really? you are willing to allow women to wear those items of clothing, how generous.

There are some passages in the Bible that support my opinion in regards to women

the bible was written 2000 years ago, so it aint relevant.
btw the bible is sexist, of course it will support your chauvinistic views. but so will any misogynistic piece of writing

 

[Dazz]

You know there was probably a reason why you got banned from those other forums. Try and think before you send your reply. I don't but i'm an idiot. Oh and You shouldn't say that one sex 'should not' do this. Unless saying men can't give birth (Thank god I'm a guy). Yes Female superiority is wrong but so is male superiority.

 

[Gabranth]

I still don't understand why you are bringing your viewpoints to this forum. I see no purpose in it for you, other than more people disliking you.

I see you've also been banned from multiple forums....I can see why now.

 

[Moogles]

I still don't understand why you are bringing your viewpoints to this forum. I see no purpose in it for you, other than more people disliking you.

It's triggered a fair amount of forum activity. Personally, I think it's good that people are willing to voice their opinions...no matter how controversial their views may be.

That said, I certainly do not support what Tedius Zanarukandu says. I think it's asinine to constrict females to the gender role they played--what was it--more than half a century ago?

Anywho! Everyone covered the whole anti-feminist...thing...or whatever.

I'm much more interested in this:

I dislike:...sepia photography...

C'mon! What's wrong with sepia photography, my fine fellow? I like the brownish gold appearance. It gives photographs a nifty sort of...old western feel.

 

[Gabranth]

Yes but I don't see why he should go on and on about him being banned from that forum. Pretty annoying really.

 

[Davey Gaga]

I can show you evidence that wearing short hair or trousers is wrong.

Please do - and don't quote references from this biased book of yours. It was likely written by people who share your beliefs - which, even at a glance, fails as evidence. Your opinion is not solid proof of anything, particularly with such an out-dated look on culture.

Parallel to this, however - WHY do you think that short hair and trousers on a woman is wrong? We know that you feel this way, but why?

The idea of short hair for women began in the 1920s.

...and? This is your presented reason? For goodness sake, would someone close this 'discussion'?

The idea of women in pants began in the 1970s before I was born.

Once again, I fail to see how this helps your case.

I feel that the idea of women being fashioned after men is going out of hand. I think that a few of the rights that men have are incompatible for women to have.

...such as? You can't make a swooping statement like that and not provide any kind of reasoning whatsoever. If I still had my mod powers, I'd close this thread for spam tbph - we're not "discussing" anything, you're telling us that you feel this way, end of story. If we had a forum for ludicrous rants then that'd be the place for this thread.

I am not saying that women should be removed from the workforce altogether.

Why should they be removed at all? I suggest you say something more than "because I do not feel that they should be working in a [place here]."

Female employment does not necessarily come at the expense of femininity. There are some jobs that are not femininity friendly. I do not want schools, universities, workforce training centers, or employers to force their female subjects to be fashioned after the male sex.

Oh for goodness sake, as if it couldn't get any worse. What's wrong with a man teaching in a school? Absolutely nothing.

Women were not confined to cooking or housekeeping. The feminist claim is false. It is actually more fun for women to stay at home than to work fulltime. They can play video games, listen to music, watch television or motion pictures, or surf the Internet as long as they want, and they will not have to follow orders of people they are not close to.

Should it ever become possible for us all to leave work, wouldn't you rather spending time at home with your family, as opposed to going out and working? If you didn't have to work, or didn't want to, then you bloody well wont - that applies to both men AND women.

They can raise their children better. Children of stay-at-home mothers are less likely to become a burden on society as adults than children of full-time working mothers.

Proof or get out. Words cannot emphasise just how much your "debating" fails.

There is already a book that criticizes the idea of women in trousers.

There's also a book called Harry Potter, in which a young Wizard destroys the Dark Lord - do you honestly think that's a true story? Fuck me sideyways. Your reasoning is much like using Harry Potter to prove the existence of magic.

Instead of trousers, women may wear skirts, shorts, capris, or skintight leggings. I did attend a workforce training center where female clients are forced to wear trousers. I do not like for women to work in places with a trousers-exclusive dress code, such as some restaurants and factories.

If you don't explain why, then you fail and should leave this thread before you're made to leave it. I can't express anymore fully just how ridiculous this thread is.

EDIT:
Courtesy of the user, Kit, the following link sheds a bit more light on this topic.
http://z2.invisionfree.com/TZ_VG_Coalition/index.php?showtopic=917

EDIT II:
Justify the following rules on your forums, please:

. Women should not be fashioned after men. Women should look feminine, not masculine. Women are not inherently like men. In order for romantic love to be a pleasant experience for men, female fashion must comply with male wishes, or otherwise it is hostile behavior. Female fashion that complies with male wishes is called girly girl fashion, and the opposite is called tomboy fashion. Girly girl fashion (such as long hair and skirts) is intrinsically modest and tomboy fashion (such as short hair and trousers) is intrinsically Jezebel. This tenet may sound sexist by feminist standards, but it is a fact and for your own good. I detest women who look like men, and I do not accept that I am a sexist. This rule is a basic element of human civilization. Tomboy fashion may be a tenet of feminist dogma, but it is hostile behavior and merits very disasterous moral consequences. Women should not make themselves unattractive to men or let others make them unattractive, nor should any authority encourage them to do so. Doing so flies against common sense and the normal, natural human desire to please, and it is not the female way. Being like SNK character King is hostile behavior. Women must not rely on personality alone to attract or charm men. Short hair is not the female way. Long hair is the only way to go for women. Very long hair is the most recommended and must not be frowned upon. Medium hair is for African-American women only. Non-African-American women should wear at least brastrap length hair. Contrary to a myth, long hair is easier to take care of than short hair. Women should not cut off or have someone cut off their long hair, for that is not the female way. They should let their hair decide how long it will grow. No one should encourage any woman to cut or wear their hair short. Women should wear skirts, not trousers. No authority figure should require women or girls to violate this tenet. You must not expel, punish, or terminate a female client or employee for wearing their hair long or for wearing skirts. Such act is called persecution of femininity. Hence, no authority figure should frown upon femininity. Brunettes are more attractive than blondes. Black hair is more beautiful than other hair colors. African-American, Hispanic, Arab, and Asian women look best with black hair. Authority figures, including parents, school faculty, bosses, church leaders, and heads of state, must respect femininity; thus they must not force any female follower to violate this tenet. Parents should raise girly girls, not tomboys. If the government forces violation of this tenet, the human race will go the way of the dodo. FACT
2. There are some things that I am correct in that American culture is incorrect in. Feminist dogma and the nudity taboo are works of the Devil. Some things that feminists consider bad are actually good, and vice versa. Something that is sexist by feminist standards but is actually beneficial is called "beneficent sexism." Errors in American culture have existed in the past and still exist today. FACT
3. Waterbirth is better than orthodox childbirth. Waterbirth is gentle birth. Mothers should give birth in the nude. People who were born via waterbirth always resolve disputes in a nonviolent way. FACT
4. It is healthy to be attractive. Looks reflect healthy. If you look attractive, then you are likely to be healthy. If you look unattractive, then you are likely to be unhealthy. FACT
5. Differentiated gender roles are natural and must be exempt from governmental interference. It is wrong to believe that men are inherently oppressive or that men are oppressors of women. Feminist laws do more harm than intended good. FACT
6. I am opposed to censorship of the media of any kind. I am opposed to censorship and regulation of computer and video games, motion pictures, or television programs in any form, including legislation, regulation, and dictation of taste in games. I condemn advocates of such practice, such as pro-censorship organizations and lobbyists. No one should regulate adults' choice of entertainment. No one should intrude upon the rights of adults for the purpose of protecting the children. No one should deprive of the right of the majority to punish the transgressions of the minority. No one should force the majority to bow down because of the whims of the minority. No one should scapegoat any form of entertainment media or its industry or fanbase for aggression or criminal acts. No middle-aged or elderly parent should regulate their adult children's choice of entertainment on the basis of their religious beliefs. Censorship is defined as banning or restricting entertainment media from a home, city, or land for all ages. I condemn the doctrine that what people take in through their eyes or ears directly programs their hearts. The answer to crime, violence, or immorality in society is nudism and antifeminism, not censorship or misandry. I believe that the church and state should not be allowed to regulate the sale of computer or video games or other forms of media. I believe that what are termed "violent video games" have no negative psychological effect on young adults. FACT
7. Destructive legislation bears rotten fruits. I condemn unconstitutional or destructive laws/legislation. I opposed to grassroots organizations that lobby, petition, or campaign for such legislation. FACT
8. I am opposed to victimless crime laws. The government should not be allowed to regulate the actions of people unless those actions impede on the rights of others. Victimless crime legislation is a passageway to the rise of a fascist regime. FACT
9. The government should focus on malum in se crimes, not malum prohibitum crimes. OPINION
10. The government should not be allowed to enforce religious beliefs. FACT
11. Parents should not be allowed to enforce their religious beliefs on their children or anyone else. OPINION
12. Female participation in the workforce is acceptable only when it is economically necessary. It is impossible for women to have full autonomy with men. Women should absolutely not work factory jobs unless they are female friendly, for women in factories merits disasterous moral consequences. It is risky for women to work in factories in conjunction with men. Women do not feel as comfortable in manufacturing jobs than they do at home or in office jobs. FACT
13. Radical feminism does more harm than good. Radical feminists are enemies of the male sex. FACT and OPINION
14. Body shame is not a family value. The nudity taboo is destructive and divisive, and has no social value. I view the human body as nothing to be hidden, unless the weather demands clothing. Hiding any part of the body in a setting where nudity is practical or requiring anyone to do so is called body shame (or body modesty, as its activists call it). Punishing someone for being nude is also body shame. Censoring access to non-sexual nudity is also body shame. It is all right to wear clothes to protect against the environmental elements, like cold weather, but is not all right to wear clothes for the sole purpose of body shame. God created nudity. Man created body shame. I support naturism, and I find it to be common sense. Unfortunately, posting images of nudity is not allowed on this forum, not because I do not like it, but because it is a violation of InvisionFree Terms of Service. The InvisionFree Terms of Service has a nudity taboo, deeming nudity "Prohibited Content." That Terms of Service thing has sent us the wrong message. Non-sexual nudity must be exempt from censorship and media content rating systems. Nudity is offensive only to people who are trained to be offended by it. Naturist lifestyle is the only way to go, thus common sense. Body modesty (or body shame) only adds to sexual interest and desire. Clothing makes women look older, emphasizing rather than hiding undesirable features. The birthday suit is the no. 1 outfit ever. Women look better and feel more comfortable nude than clothed. Revealing attire is more sexually stimulating than full nudity. It is irrational and unconstitutional to prohibit naturist speech. If everybody were happier naked, the world will be a much better place to live. Thus, the nudity taboo should be removed from all cultures, religion, and all on-line Terms-of-Service statements. Everyone, both male and female, should break free from body shame that has been rooted into us by society and our upbringing. However, this tenet does not outright rule out clothing. We should be nude when possible, but clothed when practical. FACT
15. It is wrong to discriminate against men or view such discrimination as acceptable. Believing or teaching that discrimination against men is acceptable and that discrimination against women is unacceptable constitutes discrimination against men. Such teaching is called reverse sexist doctrine. FACT
16. Ableism is like racism. Discrimination against autistic people is like discrimination against African Americans. FACT
17. The U.S. criminal justice system is corrupt. FACT
18. There should be money for employment, not warfare. OPINION
19. Widescreen is the only way to go when watching motion pictures regardless of film format. FACT
20. The elderly should live in retirement homes, not with their children. Young single men should live alone, not with their parents or legal guardians. Adult children who oppose their parents' religion, whether they have a disability or not, should not live with their parents. OPINION
21. I am opposed to inhumane or destructive laws. Any law that is found to do more harm than intended good must not be enforced and must be repealed. Any legislative proposal that is found to do more harm than intended good must be blocked. FACT
22. Microsoft is inferior to its competitors. OPINION
23. Sony game consoles are superior to their competitors. OPINION
24. In Fire Emblem, the Swordmaster class is superior to the Hero class. OPINION
25. Companies should focus employment on younger demographics (especially vicenarians), not on older demographics (such as sexagenarians). FACT
26. Offshoring of jobs to China or India does more harm than good. FACT
27. I am opposed to my parents' religion, Jehovah's Witnesses, and its teachings. FACT
28. I am opposed to the media teachings of AlMenconi.com. FACT
29. I am opposed to Christian and Islamic fundamentalism. They are very oppressive and threatening. Christian and Islamic fundamentalism are both threats to civil liberties. They fly against common sense. Islamic fundamentalism is the greatest threat to world peace today. I am not against religion, but I am against fundamentalism. FACT
30. I am opposed to religious conservatism. Religious conservatism flies against common sense. FACT
31. The Federal Reserve must come to an end. FACT
32. The advent of paper money leads to economic disaster. FACT
33. I despise sepia photography. It is too archaic. I prefer color, but black and white is fine with me. I convert sepia to black and white. OPINION
34. I encourage the idea of audiovisually updating old computer and video games to today's standards. OPINION
35. Final Fantasy OSTs should be made available outside Japan. OPINION
36. It is recommended that housing expenses should be at most 40% of your income. The term "housing expenses" is limited to rent and mortgage. They do not include utility expenses. FACT
37. International copyright law does more harm than intended good. FACT
38. You must not punish someone for telling the truth. That is the same as lying. FACT
39. "Made in China" label lends itself inferior quality. Companies must not have their products manufactured in the People's Republic of China. FACT
40. Chip music is the worst sounding music ever, and it usually sounds unrealistic for the setting of a video game. OPINION
41. Wal-Mart Corporation is a corporate monster. It must either change its ways or go out of business. FACT
42. It is unwise to put business sense ahead of common sense. That leads to consumer frustration and uprising. FACT
43. The care of human life, felicity, and liberty, and not their destruction, is the object of good government. Nannyism, which includes the destruction of human life, felicity, and liberty, is the object of bad government. FACT
44. Mercy (or lenient justice) bears richer fruits than strict justice.FACT
45. Boys and girls do not mix in academic settings. Men and women do not mix in exercising facilities. FACT

Most of these beliefs are common sense. I know common sense very well. Before you can comment with me about tenet no. 1, keep in mind that I do not believe in romantic relationship. Regardless of your opinion, tenet no. 1 IS common sense, although it may sound sexist according to feminist dogma. Those who view it as sexist are called butch feminists.

A real woman is nice.
A real woman wears her hair long, never short.
A real woman wears skirts, never trousers.
A real woman is a nudist.
A real woman does not work in factories or warehouses.
A real woman is not a feminist.
A real woman does not hit a man.
A real woman does not rule over a man.
A real woman does not manipulate a man (or marry and then divorce a man with the intent to get him busted).

Women feel more comfortable in settings I consider female friendly than in settings I consider female unfriendly. Women look better and feel more comfortable naked than clothed.

Behavior that complies with the Tedius Zanarukando doctrine is called Tedian (or Zanarukandian) behavior. Behavior that violates the said doctrine is called un-Tedian (or un-Zanarukandian) behavior.

Tedian Behavior

Women wearing their hair long
Women in skirts
White-collar or pink-collar men or women
Encouragement of femininity
Rewarding people for their looks
Housewives
Naturism/nudism
Waterbirth (gentle childbirth in bathtub or swimming pool)
Libertarian parenting
Nudist parenting
Intellectual freedom or media democracy (such as opposition to video game censorship)
Video games
Motion pictures
Television
Arranged or orchestrated music
Remaking video games to look and sound more realistic
Developing video games for technically sophisticated platforms
Color photography
Black and white photography
Music (listening to music, composing music, or playing music on an instrument)
Racial equality
Reimbursement of housing expenses
Housing expense to income ratio of at most 40%
Shopping at stores besides Wal-Mart
Honest business practices
Paying livable wages
Paying above minimum wage
Importing or exporting jobs between free countries
Putting common sense first
Constructive legislation (true or constitutional laws)
Patriarchy
Democracy / Libertarianism

Un-Tedian Behavior

Anti-male discrimination / Female superiority
Ableism (discrimination against people with a disability)
Women wearing their a boyish short hair / Female haircutting or headshaving
Women in trousers (or pants in U.S. English)
Blue-collar women
Persecution of femininity (such as forcing females to wear their hair short or to wear pants)
Feminist dogma
Video game censorship
Prudery / nudity taboo / clothing compulsion
Orthodox childbirth (childbirth through labor or delivery in hospitals)
Developing video games for primitive platforms
Chip music
Authoritarian parenting
Racial inequality
Sepia photography
Greedy business practices
Salary caps / Paying unlivable wages
Deducting housing expenses from paycheck
Housing expenses exceeding 40% of income
Paying below minimum wage
Unfair trade
Exporting jobs to unfree or disapproved countries (e.g. China and India)
Shopping at Wal-Mart
Punishing someone for telling the truth
Putting business sense first
Destructive legislation (bogus or unconstitutional laws)
Matriarchy
Tyranny / Oppression

My Political Agenda

My political agenda is to correct the errors of dominant culture. Part of that is to abolish nannyism (which includes video game censorship), religiofascism, feminist ideology, cultural misandry, and prudery (i.e. the nudity taboo). My political agenda is proven to make this world a much better place to live. Un-Tedian behavior is destructive, divisive, and disastrous to all society.

My three social demons are feminism, prudery, and pop culture censorship.

EDIT III:
Is THIS your "evidence"?
http://www.slate.com/id/2089142/

EDIT IV:

I just do not understand females. I had bad experiences with them

. I am very afraid to fall in love anyway.

Giving away a child for adoption is better than abortion, because the former is a nonfatal alternative to the latter. Romantic love is an endurance rather than an enjoyment. It is a very dangerous thing. Playing video games is safer than falling in love. I love video games, music, motion pictures, computing, the Internet, construction, my new home, and my job, but not women.

Ah.

 

[Bambi]

Women were not confined to cooking or housekeeping. The feminist claim is false. It is actually more fun for women to stay at home than to work fulltime. They can play video games, listen to music, watch television or motion pictures, or surf the Internet as long as they want, and they will not have to follow orders of people they are not close to. They can raise their children better. Children of stay-at-home mothers are less likely to become a burden on society as adults than children of full-time working mothers. Feminism rose at a time when labor-saving and leisure-creating devices were not yet invented, and it is men who invented those devices. Female employment is economically necessary in some households.

So, my daughter is going to be a burden to society just because I work is she? Oh and no doubt she will be a drug addles teenage mum just because Im a single mother aswel? I teach my daughter to use her manners, which she does. She's at nursery where she is building up her social skills.

And funnily enough, Id rather work than sit at home all day watching daytime tv. See, theres this thing known as adult contact. Just because I am a mother does'nt mean I should have to give that up. And say I WAS a stay at home mum, how would I possibly find the time to surf the 'net, play video games, watch films etc, unless your implying Ishould neglect my daughters needs and just slob around?

I can show you evidence that wearing short hair or trousers is wrong. The idea of short hair for women began in the 1920s. The idea of women in pants began in the 1970s before I was born. I feel that the idea of women being fashioned after men is going out of hand. I think that a few of the rights that men have are incompatible for women to have.

Evidence my arse. Why on earth are trousers wrong? I happen to like my jeans. I used to have short hair. It's called freedom of choice. Why should I be confined to a skirt/dress if its freezing outside? Sure I could wear big wooly tights but they are uncomfortable.
Im not saying that I don't LIKE wearing skirts and dresses because I do but Im much more comfortable in my jeans and trainers if I am going on a big shopping expedition

anything offensive to the male sex,

But it's ok to be offensive to the female sex?

 

[Dazz]

OK so hypothetically if woman being fashioned after men is wrong. Why is mens fashion right on men? None of it is right or wrong. What about cultural clothes. In scotland we have kilts for men which yes is sort of a skirt but it is very masculine. I may be wrong with origins here but in africa they wear some sort of dress as a cultural dress and i have yet to hear somebody say anything about that being feminie when the males wear them. If you are going to talk about things in the 1920's then there is plenty of things to mention that date back to long before the 1900's

 

[Saga]

Okay I read the first page and couldn't bring myself to read anymore.

Tedius [Ironically sounds like Tedious which is how you making me think you are] You really are one great big walking contradiction. Seriously. One minute it's all, 'Women should be able to do as they can, Equality and all that' And then it's all 'Women shouldn't dress in the same clothes as men etc etc etc'

Okay so.

In my opinion, Men and Women are Equal meaning Women have the same rights as men and Men have teh same as women. [Cept child birth, that's a god given right to women... poor us] Women can have short hair and wear trousers and 'manly clothes' as you put it. Infact, one of my friends simply adores it when his GF wears one of his shirts. Also, men can have long hair and wear 'womanly clothes' if they so wish. It's just material. It's not life or freaking death.

i think it's painfully obvious that you keep backtracking because from what I read of other people's replies, they spotted it too. Stick to your view and don't keep changing it everytime someone contends with it. =\ If it really is your view, you shouldn't feel like you have to defend and change it to fit around everything else. But that's not the point.

From what I read, you're pretty damn sexist. Female superiority? =\ As opposed to men being the workers and leaving the women at home? i'm sorry but it's up to the women if they want a full-time career: which btw, does not make them any less of a mother. I have many friends who come from families with Full-work-time mothers, [One of my friends IS a full-time career woman with tiwn daughters] and they're now becoming lawyers and teachers and part of all different forces. Just because the mother worked, doesn't mean she's less able to be a brilliant mother.

MEh, I've talked to much. I'll carry on if I feel the need to next time. I just hope you understood my post. =]

 

[Donald Trump]

Mercy (or lenient justice) bears richer fruits than strict justice.FACT

that, like everything else you have said is wrong.
1865-Lincoln is assasinated, Vice President Andrew Johnson becomes president, and in his infinite wisdom pardons all confederates.
slavery continues in all but name.

Medium hair is for African-American women only

thats racial discrimination.

pretty much everything, if not everything you have ever said is wrong.

 

[Rockman X]

A real woman is nice.
A real woman wears her hair long, never short.
A real woman wears skirts, never trousers.
A real woman is a nudist.
A real woman does not work in factories or warehouses.
A real woman is not a feminist.
A real woman does not hit a man.
A real woman does not rule over a man.
A real woman does not manipulate a man (or marry and then divorce a man with the intent to get him busted).

Women feel more comfortable in settings I consider female friendly than in settings I consider female unfriendly. Women look better and feel more comfortable naked than clothed.

Woah now, who the hell are you to say what a "real" woman is? A real woman is a nudist? I can't think of a more sexist, perverted view on women than that. I was right, you only want women to be in dresses (and apparently nude now) so they can be pretty little dolls for you to look at.

And women feel more comfortable naked? What are you now, a mind reader? Let's see if this bit of advice can sink into your sexist mind: you cannot speak for how women feel because you are not a woman.

Taken from your thread: http://z2.invisionfree.com/TZ_VG_Coalition/index.php?showtopic=922

Women initiate the most domestic violence incidents, mostly through arguments. Men hardly ever initiate a domestic violence incident. Men murder women because women initiated the murders through arguments.

What the fuck? Are you that blind? Women don't start domestic violence, it's the males, generally because they're drunk abusive bastards. It almost sounds as if you're condoning abuse toward women.

Women have been abusing men by using the court system. Ex-wives have financially enslaved their ex-husbands by means of divorce, child support, alimony, and the courts. Ex-wives have used the divorce psychology to enslave their ex-husbands for their own amusement and enrichment. Ex-wives have humiliated and bankrupted their ex-husbands and then move on with their ex-husbands’ money, to better relationships with more handsome men. All they want is revenge and female financial domination. That is a reason why I do not believe in romantic love. If I get a wife, she may later become my financial oppressor.

Now you're making women out to be manipulative, sadistic monsters. "All they want is revenge and female financial domination"? Once more I will say this, in the futile hope that it will pass through your sexist skull: as a male, you cannot speak for women. You are not inside their head and do not know what they feel, think or want. You are making broad generalizations that set the human race back 100 years. It's no wonder TFF banned you. Boards have the right to ban anyone, since it is you who agrees to terms and conditions. I know if I were on staff at TFF I would have banned you, I wouldn't want a sexist, misogynistic member making my forums look bad.

 

[der Astronom]

A woman, by definition, has two X chromosomes in her genes. Her social behavior, regardless of what she wears or what hairstyle she chooses has absolutely NOTHING to do with her gender.

Besides, does it bother you at all that there are and were still men with long hair and that there are men that dress in drag now too?

It is true that society expects certain things of particular genders, but these rules need not be followed, and many people bend these rules. Bending these rules just means you're different from the norm, but it is by no means considered "wrong". It makes you no less or better at doing math, studying, playing music, or whatever other talents or things you're good at.


If you cannot provide any evidence or proof of your position, then you must concede that what you are proposing is nothing more than your OPINION, and everyone else need not accept it unless they choose to. I also suggest that it would also be better for others not to respond until he brings in some evidence, though that choice is entirely yours.

 

[Bambi]

Women initiate the most domestic violence incidents, mostly through arguments. Men hardly ever initiate a domestic violence incident. Men murder women because women initiated the murders through arguments.

Wow, I really resent that comment

My ex boyfriend was abusive, possesive, jelous and just a downright twat really. Sure I wasn't completely innocent & I argued back but tell me how I could possibly instigate being accused of cheating on him when I wasn't...... oh wait, I know why, it was whenever I wore skirts I got that kind of grief.
If I was late home from work I was having an affair. And Im talking ten minutes late there pal, how is the bus being late my fault?
In fact most of our arguments were down to HIM & HIS insecurities, we would not have argued half as much if he understood what the word COMPROMISE meant

 

[Donald Trump]

I may have misogynous tendencies due to our culture, but I actually like women

this sums up his whole viewpoint. i hate women, its not my fault, its society's. but i like women.

The female fashion industry has, on a grand scale, violated the first tenet of the TZ Doctrine

your conceited to the point of being narcisstic, the TZ doctrine?
its a load of shit, mixing together misgyony, flawed economic policies and arranging and composing orchestrated music.

Body shame is not a family value. The nudity taboo is destructive and divisive, and has no social value. I view the human body as nothing to be hidden, unless the weather demands clothing. Hiding any part of the body in a setting where nudity is practical or requiring anyone to do so is called body shame (or body modesty, as its activists call it). Punishing someone for being nude is also body shame. Censoring access to non-sexual nudity is also body shame. It is all right to wear clothes to protect against the environmental elements, like cold weather, but is not all right to wear clothes for the sole purpose of body shame. God created nudity. Man created body shame. I support naturism, and I find it to be common sense. Unfortunately, posting images of nudity is not allowed on this forum, not because I do not like it, but because it is a violation of InvisionFree Terms of Service. The InvisionFree Terms of Service has a nudity taboo, deeming nudity "Prohibited Content." That Terms of Service thing has sent us the wrong message. Non-sexual nudity must be exempt from censorship and media content rating systems. Nudity is offensive only to people who are trained to be offended by it. Naturist lifestyle is the only way to go, thus common sense. Body modesty (or body shame) only adds to sexual interest and desire. Clothing makes women look older, emphasizing rather than hiding undesirable features. The birthday suit is the no. 1 outfit ever. Women look better and feel more comfortable nude than clothed. Revealing attire is more sexually stimulating than full nudity. It is irrational and unconstitutional to prohibit naturist speech. If everybody were happier naked, the world will be a much better place to live. Thus, the nudity taboo should be removed from all cultures, religion, and all on-line Terms-of-Service statements. Everyone, both male and female, should break free from body shame that has been rooted into us by society and our upbringing. However, this tenet does not outright rule out clothing. We should be nude when possible, but clothed when practical. FACT

your not fooling anyone by putting FACT at the end of your 'tenets' they arent facts, they are your opinions which are just stupid

 

[der Astronom]

Well, I think he likes women, but only if they're the way he wants them. In other words, he likes women who don't have short hair or wear pants and most likely have fewer rights than guys--he does, afterall, believe in guys being in control.

So if women were to have short hair or wear pants, he would hate them.

That viewpoint of his above is clearly an opinion.