Is it Pedophilia When someone is attracted to an Anime Character?

[Marquis of Granby]

Again, this is different, because we're not talking about "thinking" about anime pornography, we're discussing actually being part of it. So, again, we have to ask: does a cartoon child have the same rights as a human child

its not a child. its a drawing. it has no rights. it doesnt exist outwith its sheet of paper. i dont think its any different to think of cartoon porn than it is you see it. its imaginary either way. if these people were real paedoph isles, theyd look up kiddy porn, not some shitty jappo crappo with tentacles pentrating the massive vaginas of jappo crappo cartoon kiddies.

If it bothers you...well, fuck off, really.

right back to boots where youll be delighted to read, they do not sell jappo crappo, korean crappo, vietnamese crappo, chinese crappo or any sort of crappo cartoon kiddy porn.

 

[Davey Gaga]

Logically, I agree, but I also understand why the principle of using a child as the instrument of pleasure is rejected by most.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

I think you misunderstood me......lm not talking about controlling what people create on a personal level lm talking about the controlled import of such material, either through product lines or over the internet the latter being much harder too control.

You can draw all the stick figures you want slap any part of the anatomy on them you feel makes them more attractive to your little head..........thats fine, But licensed products can be controlled.

as far as fanart goes its up to the individual to deem what is acceptable for them to draw........

Dont compare people to Hitler.......or your ass will get hiled

 

[Donald Trump]

Because of the lack of facts in this thread I shall address that now.
Paedophiles have more in common with crabs than you or I, unless you are a paedophile. There's not a lot of scientific evidence for this but it is a fact.

Basically I can't be fucked reading through the whole thread because it would be a waste of my time. Calibabe obviously has some obsession with paedophilia, and it is a very interesting subject. But no, if someone is attracted to an anime character they aren't paedophiles. As james so often points out, this is a finaru fantaruju forum, most people here are probably in love with animu characters.

There is absolutely no relationship between fancying a cartoon and being a nonce.

nt flmn r trlln.

 

[Marquis of Granby]

why bother? this is possibly the least important thing in the world, second only to perhaps getting aid and fresh drinking water to africa.

its a strange fetish to be sure, but how its any different to shit eaters or anything vulgar like that i dont quite see...

if people like that stuff more power to them, it would just be handy if more people stopped complaining about useless pish and concentrated on important issues.

she asked if its paedophilia, no it isnt. question answered, whats to bang on about?

Because of the lack of facts in this thread I shall address that now.
Paedophiles have more in common with crabs than you or I, unless you are a paedophile. There's not a lot of scientific evidence for this but it is a fact.

Basically I can't be fucked reading through the whole thread because it would be a waste of my time. Calibabe obviously has some obsession with paedophilia, and it is a very interesting subject. But no, if someone is attracted to an anime character they aren't paedophiles. As james so often points out, this is a finaru fantaruju forum, most people here are probably in love with animu characters.

There is absolutely no relationship between fancying a cartoon and being a nonce.

nt flmn r trlln.

easily the best post in this thread. thank you.

 

[Davey Gaga]

I think you misunderstood me......lm not talking about controlling what people create on a personal level lm talking about the controlled import of such material, either through product lines or over the internet the latter being much harder too control.

You can draw all the stick figures you want slap any part of the anatomy on them you feel makes them more attractive to your little head..........thats fine, But licensed products can be controlled.

as far as fanart goes its up to the individual to deem what is acceptable for them to draw........

Dont compare people to Hitler.......or your ass will get hiled

...sorry, what? You want to filter internet porn?

 

[Gingerbread Lesbian]

So rather than have a real opinion your going to quote legal binding?
And have the Law as your proxy opinion?

Law is pretty much the foundation for everything, furthermore, law is also partially based on morals and public expression. There's no "hiding" behind law, it's there to be used.

While this is true, the topic in hand suggests condemning those who have gone beyond "thinking" about something and have "done" something --that is to say that they have pleased themselves with their chosen pornography-- as opposed to those who simply "think" about doing things.

Case and point. However, I was merely going off the OP which stated "watching" and something she maintained throughout most of the thread if not all (I cba going back checking all the posts ), watching in itself wouldn't constitute a crime if it was just anime that was produced for entertainment purposes, like Pokemon for example. If she said the anime was produced for sexual purposes or that they had acted upon the anime in said way then there's an argument. If someone's just sexually aroused over children in general anime programs then there's not much really that can be done.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Maybe.

Not the good stuff

Just the stuff that should not be.........y'know involving children, anything else is fine between adults, I a little iffy about Animals but the animal rights groups deal with that stuff.

 

[Davey Gaga]

Law is pretty much the foundation for everything, furthermore, law is also partially based on morals and public expression. There's no "hiding" behind law, it's there to be used.

Law's entirely based on public expression

Well, in a democracy, anyway.

...at least it should be.
















/controversial

 

[Rey]

I am not going to make a big deal here. But the Japanese love that kind of stuff. Sex is something crazy overthere, Pedophilia also. So are you saying that 24 year olds in anime like 10 year olds in anime. Or are you saying it is wrong when a person in RL is attracted to anime characters? In most animes it is the doctors who like the little anime girls. It is disgusting but unfortunately nothing can be done. I dont know why this is such a big DEAL though. I mean Anime is always perverted and will always be till the end of time. Even animes for children have references to nudity sex and pedophilia. Not going through the other pages. I fucking cba. Anime is really different than other animations from certain Countries tbh. Its a masterpiece by the Japanese. You can not really call it cartoons Cali why are you distracted by this anyway? Just ignore it?

 

[Gaige]

It's perfectly acceptable and people are like that. You might not like it, but don't go condemning it just because you don't like it. It's the equivalent to throwing your toy outta the pram. People are gonna do things you don't like. And no. It's not paedophilia. It's just a form of fanboying/fangirling. That's all there is to it.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[lreal]

Um...yes it's pedophilia. Pedophilia is a term used to characterize older men who have a sexual interest in pre-pubescent girls. Unless the person just has a cartoon fetish (highly unlikely imo since cartoons are just representations of reality), there is no significant difference as to whether the pornography is "real" or "drawn."

But fortunately for them, the law hasn't really caught up to the digital age so having cartoon (and 3D i'm guessing) child porn isn't a crime in the USA. Dunno when this will change; however, I'm fairly certain that some state will pass something about this when it becomes a more pressing issue.

 

[Tmoo]

the fact that this thread has reached ten pages is saddening.

i kill someone in a video game. by your logic, that's murder and i should be locked up.

utterly ridiculous.

 

[Sum1sgruj]

if they were pedophiles, they wouldnt be looking at anime? way to be close-minded

 

[GrieverZER0]

I personally agree that for example fancying Sasami out of Tenchi Muyo, and fancying Dakota Fanning are two completely different things since Dakota Fanning isnt fictional. But from a legal point of view, in america now owning "Loli" manga porn is almost as punishable a crime as owning child porn, So to anyone out there who is into that kinda thing, i wouldnt admit it cause its quite illegal now.

Personally ive fancied some anime characters, Like Mokoto out of Ghost in the Shell, mostly for the giant boobs and tiny hips, but i dont collect anime porn or get off to them, cause at the end of the day pictures dont compaire to the real thing.

 

[Rasputin]

Um...yes it's pedophilia. Pedophilia is a term used to characterize older men who have a sexual interest in pre-pubescent girls. Unless the person just has a cartoon fetish (highly unlikely imo since cartoons are just representations of reality), there is no significant difference as to whether the pornography is "real" or "drawn."

But fortunately for them, the law hasn't really caught up to the digital age so having cartoon (and 3D i'm guessing) child porn isn't a crime in the USA. Dunno when this will change; however, I'm fairly certain that some state will pass something about this when it becomes a more pressing issue.

Since you clearly don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about, I'm just going to suggest avoiding areas of debate you have no business arguing in. Did you even bother reading any of the posts in this thread? Pedophilia is used here to describe a criminal act involving older men OR women indirectly or directly sexually abusing children. Cartoon pornography is not pedophilia. There's no "victim" in lolicon, it's not a "moral" issue, and people who want to censor the whole damn world are just making life more miserable for the rest of us.

 

[Saga]

Pedophilia. A rather touching topic to debate on, tbh.

However. I don't think it's pedophilia for a person to like an anime character who is below the age of consent.

1) It's anime. It's a drawing. That's all there is to it.
2) I like quite a few characters who are below the age of consent. There are characters who are like... 13 in games that I think are cute or whatever. Hope from FFXIII is an example (he's 14, but eh). But I have no interest whatsoever in real children in that manner. Larsa, FFXII. Another example. Even if a real child looked like either of these two characters, I still wouldn't look at them the same way I do as game characters.

It's a psychological thing. You can find an underage anime or game character attractive/hawt, whatever without finding real people of the same age attractive.

Just because you do find a character attractive and they're underage, doesn't mean you feel the same way about real kids. =/

Don't ask for others opinions if they're not allowed one, too.

My opinion on the matter. -shrug;- you don't like it or agree with it... I don't really care.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Careful that sounds like an invitation for an argument.

Not from me though, I'm vexxed on this subject!

This is not so clear cut as you would think and is a futile thing to engage each other with opinions when there is so much grey area.

 

[lreal]

Pedophilia has nothing to do with the law. It has to do with the preference of an adult. I probably misspoke about the legality of non-real porn and child pornography (did a little outside reading and realized that the rationale behind the illegality of child porn is very different from what I thought), but I don't see how a person enjoying child anime pornography wouldn't find a similar preference in real life.

From a morality standpoint (not legality), the "no victim" rationale doesn't really hold up. So it's okay to be sexually stimulated by scenes of children as long as victimization only occurs upon an unreal character? What? A non-pedophile would not be sexually aroused in either case.

Additionally, I don't find a very large disconnect between anime and reality when it comes to what the observer is being sexually aroused by. It's the same idea but just in a different form. I wouldn't enjoy watching child pornography regardless of the medium, and this isn't due to the fact that I don't enjoy hentai or anything.

If you enjoy watching child pornography via hentai, good for you. I think it's walking down the same thought process of a pedophile. The only reason it isn't illegal is because there is no victim, thus they won't need to restrict the "underground market" as a preventative measure. But as a classification that relies upon how an individual is sexually aroused...it's very similar.

Edit: As an additional point (since people here are apt to use it) comparing this to a murderer vs. killing people in games is an inaccurate analogy. The type of enjoyment received by a murderer is of a very different nature than that of the enjoyment of a person playing an fps or grand theft auto. But in child pornography vs. anime child pornography...the sexual arousal is derived from a very similar type of pleasure. Again, this isn't a discussion about an overt act of pedophilia...just the thought process that defines someone as such. Not acting doesn't necessarily make you immune from being categorized as a "pedophile."

 

[L]

Edit: As an additional point (since people here are apt to use it) comparing this to a murderer vs. killing people in games is an inaccurate analogy. The type of enjoyment received by a murderer is of a very different nature than that of the enjoyment of a person playing an fps or grand theft auto. But in child pornography vs. anime child pornography...the sexual arousal is derived from a very similar type of pleasure. Again, this isn't a discussion about an overt act of pedophilia...just the thought process that defines someone as such. Not acting doesn't necessarily make you immune from being categorized as a "pedophile."

Johnny Gat begs to differ

In Saints Row 2, Johnny Gat (Voiced by Kim Dae) was a criminal who was convicted of over 300 Murders. Shortly before he was sentenced to the electric chair, his nameless homie who was also mute in the last game busted his ass out of there.

During his case, the following script was played:

Judge: You've been found guilty of over 300 counts of murder, Mr. Gat.
Johnny: Now honestly your honor, with the statute of limitations it should really be closer to 250.
Judge: There is no statute of limitations on murder, Mr. Gat!
Johnny: Why the fuck not?

Near the end of Saints Row 2, the 3rd Street Saints took down Dane Vogel and fucked up the Ultor Company. After which, Shaundi, Pierce, and Namless Homie took a 'copter home.

Nameless Homie called Johnny to see if he was ready to go. His reply was "Do I really have to? It's not like I'm gonna run out of ammo anytime soon" and continued to kill many cops.

but in retrospect

I imagine jacking off to naked children does not really give the same feeling as raping/manhandling them does

but you know what

if i could be like in saints row 2, I'd go kill people all the time

shoot the guy in the gas station, take all the dr. pepper i want, eat their shitty greasy pizza, call someone to bring me my ferrari or completely restored camaro with nitrous and guns planted on the car, pulll a rocket launcher out of my ass and blow stuff up