[01/12] SE trademarks "All the Bravest"

[Linnaete]

And we return to what the company is best at. Registering trademarks for things that are likely to be not worth mentioning in the end. Trust me, they must have like, a hundred of these.

It would appear that Square Enix is working on something game-related called “All The Bravest”.

This past week, the company not only registered the domain names AllTheBravest.com (WHOIS) and AllTheBravest.net (WHOIS), it also filed a European Community Trademark for the name.

Both domain names were registered through the trademark and domain management company Thomson Brandy on November 29, 2012.

Also on the same day, Square Enix filed a trademark application (trade mark no 011386349).

Source: Fusible, via the delightful NeoGAF

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I predict another delightful mobile or social game! Because by God, we've definitely not had enough of those instant cash-grabbers, right? Or this could just be another thing for FFXIV 2.0. It does sound like something that could fit with FFXIV. "All" the Bravest, etc.

But hey, don't let me spoil your fun. Feel free to come out with all your lofty speculative suggestions.

 

[Nocturne]

You are probably correct.

Though I could see that being a localized name for Bravely Default. But that's being VERY optimistic.

 

[Starships]

Yup cellphone game like Angry Birds style, or like the Sonic Jump game. You beat up monsters for the highest points or something stupid.

 

[Razberry Knight]

I agree with Nocturne. The name bravely default has had negative reaction such as Kotaku.

Edit: yup im definitely thinking this is just a localized name. The same thing happened when people thought final fantasy Dimensions was initially trademarked. The key is when its trademarked in japan or europe/US

 

[Martel]

Maybe it refers to the people who still buy and play their games. Given XIII and XIII-2, I think that a rather apt title, although I would liken that sort of bravery to something else entirely...

A Bravely Default localization does sound far too optimistic, but it does have some merit. It'd be nice, but I'm not sure I can ever see it happening. We live in hope, I suppose.

 

[Linnaete]

I did think it could be Bravely. Especially as it's a European trademark too. But I'm not that sort of optimist and for good reason. Either that or they're screwing 3DSers over and going for that free-to-play web browser PC game - Praying Brage.

But since Square is going through this "let's not give people what they want for various reasons" phase, well, you know the rest. You raise your expectations without tempering them and Square has a tendency of biting you in the arse in return later on.

 

[Razberry Knight]

Is there any particular reason why its too optimistic for a localization of Bravely?

Is it because of type-0?

Bravely Default is in current gen. They released theatrythm here, so why not Bravely?


It has nothing to do with optimism, it has to do with the pattern of how trademarks get revealed from what i seen in the past.

 

[Linnaete]

Is there any particular reason why its too optimistic for a localization of Bravely?

Bravely Default is in current gen.

Because there is a very distinct possibility that they won't bother localising it?

In 2009, Japan got a SaGa 2 remake (otherwise known as Final Fantasy Legend II) for the DS by the same people who remade FFIII and FFIV. It never came to the west. What you are seeing there is just a fan translation.

Sigma Harmonics was never localised. DS game.

Blood of Bahamut never came either. Also for DS. In fact, it bombed even in Japan.

Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D for 3DS doesn't look like it's coming over.

And Type-0...well, THAT has a reason at least.

I am aware they brought over Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light over of which Bravely is like the spiritual sequel of, but guess what? That sold badly. I see a Square-Enix that has suddenly become overtly nervous about how their games in the west sell now. Otherwise, why are they hesitating with Bravely? You know that Square has managed to close the gap between their Japanese releases and western releases for bigger-name games, so why is that they still haven't yet said anything about Bravely for the west? Then once you consider that, it becomes reasonable to be pessimistic as to whether they will even bother launching it outside of Japan.

They released theatrythm here, so why not Bravely?

And this is also why Square makes no fucking sense with what they do. Hesitating with Bravely, yet eager to localise Theatrhythm from the get-go? The fuck? I presume they're hoping that more Lightning will be the moneymaker.

It has nothing to do with optimism, it has to do with the pattern of how trademarks get revealed from what i seen in the past.

What does this even mean?

 

[Nocturne]

Maybe it refers to the people who still buy and play their games. Given XIII and XIII-2, I think that a rather apt title, although I would liken that sort of bravery to something else entirely...

*rolls eyes*

Regardless I would think SE would be bringing games out for the 3DS, just for the fact that it would more than likely sell well and also it would make the 3DS look better to buy, thus increasing the base of a console that they could release further IPs for and hope to sell better.

 

[Razberry Knight]

Because there is a very distinct possibility that they won't bother localising it?

In 2009, Japan got a SaGa 2 remake (otherwise known as Final Fantasy Legend II) for the DS by the same people who remade FFIII and FFIV. It never came to the west. What you are seeing there is just a fan translation.

Sigma Harmonics was never localised. DS game.

Blood of Bahamut never came either. Also for DS. In fact, it bombed even in Japan.

Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D for 3DS doesn't look like it's coming over.

And Type-0...well, THAT has a reason at least.

I am aware they brought over Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light over of which Bravely is like the spiritual sequel of, but guess what? That sold badly. I see a Square-Enix that has suddenly become overtly nervous about how their games in the west sell now. Otherwise, why are they hesitating with Bravely? You know that Square has managed to close the gap between their Japanese releases and western releases for bigger-name games, so why is that they still haven't yet said anything about Bravely for the west? Then once you consider that, it becomes reasonable to be pessimistic as to whether they will even bother launching it outside of Japan.



And this is also why Square makes no fucking sense with what they do. Hesitating with Bravely, yet eager to localise Theatrhythm from the get-go? The fuck? I presume they're hoping that more Lightning will be the moneymaker.



What does this even mean?

Oh WOW. you convinced me! *sarcasm*

I noticed that games that had less report jews in english sites usually dont have any plans for english release.

The fact that its trademarked for europe aswell means that its a localized name for some game already released.

To believe its anything else such as a new online/social game is far-fetch considering we would just see a teaser about it, instead of seeing a trademark. Considering this game has AR (like kingdom hearts) im sure people wont see it as a 4HOL sequel but rather new game.

I can find it reasonable pesimistic but not THAT pessimistic....its ridiculous

 

[Linnaete]

Oh WOW. you convinced me! *sarcasm*

I can find it reasonable pesimistic but not THAT pessimistic....its ridiculous

Dear, this is hardly extreme pessimism. This is actually rather reasonable pessimism, backed up by supporting examples to justify the need to temper expectations. This is hardly ridiculous. But if you want to continue being an arse to me in return with that sort of tone when I'm being perfectly reasonable, fine by me.

You want me to more optimistic? Okay, well, I've not been saying that they definitely won't bring it over. There's still a good chance that they will, but for whatever reason, they're hesitating and they seem scared shit to do so. Not on their list of priorities? What other priorities does that localisation department even have at the moment? Lightning Returns? And like I said, considering they were eager to quickly localise Theatrhythm, but ostensibly unwilling to budge for Bravely at the moment, it's not been a great sign. But we may still get it. A year and a half later...

And one last thing, Drakerider was trademarked for Europe too a little while back. Was that clearly a "localized name for a game already released"? Oh wait, no, of course not, it's an original iOS game. There is nothing to suggest that it won't be an iOS/social game, just like there's little to suggest that it is Bravely Default. All we know is, this thing will likely come to the west, which is relatively rarer for social games.

 

[Razberry Knight]

Dear, this is hardly extreme pessimism. This is actually rather reasonable pessimism, backed up by supporting examples to justify the need to temper expectations. This is hardly ridiculous. But if you want to continue being an arse to me in return with that sort of tone when I'm being perfectly reasonable, fine by me.

You want me to more optimistic? Okay, well, I've not been saying that they definitely won't bring it over. There's still a good chance that they will, but for whatever reason, they're hesitating and they seem scared shit to do so. Not on their list of priorities? What other priorities does that localisation department even have at the moment? Lightning Returns? And like I said, considering they were eager to quickly localise Theatrhythm, but ostensibly unwilling to budge for Bravely at the moment, it's not been a great sign. But we may still get it. A year and a half later...

And one last thing, Drakerider was trademarked for Europe too a little while back. Was that clearly a "localized name for a game already released"? Oh wait, no, of course not, it's an original iOS game. There is nothing to suggest that it won't be an iOS/social game, just like there's little to suggest that it is Bravely Default. All we know is, this thing will likely come to the west, which is relatively rarer for social games.

What you say isn't even "optimist" it's just being a realist. And the game barely released in Japan 2 months ago, plenty of room for it beign localized.

it's not being "optimistic" at all to believe this could be localized name for Bravely Default, or any other game that will release here. for all we know, you could be half-right on it being an iOS game.

 

[Master Cat]

As soon as I heard "All the Bravest," I instantly thought of Bravely Default. It would be awesome to get it localized. The 3DS could use some more worthwhile RPGs. :3

I'm not so sure why Square-Enix is being so hesitant to localize worthy titles - such as Bravely Default and Type-O. It'd be different if these games were not-the-norm (such as iOS, Android, web browser games), but these games have great potential. They've already been released in Japan and received great ratings.

It sucks to hear that FF: 4 Heroes of Light didn't sell so well in the U.S. I actually enjoyed that DS game a lot. >D; But I think Bravely Default has a lot of promise and potential. :3

 

[Razberry Knight]

As soon as I heard "All the Bravest," I instantly thought of Bravely Default. It would be awesome to get it localized. The 3DS could use some more worthwhile RPGs. :3

I'm not so sure why Square-Enix is being so hesitant to localize worthy titles - such as Bravely Default and Type-O. It'd be different if these games were not-the-norm (such as iOS, Android, web browser games), but these games have great potential. They've already been released in Japan and received great ratings.

It sucks to hear that FF: 4 Heroes of Light didn't sell so well in the U.S. I actually enjoyed that DS game a lot. >D; But I think Bravely Default has a lot of promise and potential. :3

I can see the excuse SE will do for type-0 but not bravely default. Type-0 is in a last gen console. But still doesnt stop them from porting it

 

[Steve-O]

alot of square's portable games don't get over here, sooooo I can see why people are like 'the game will never get over here' the reason being that alot of squares portable games in simple terms do 'crap' dissidia only got over here cuz it a FF Game

EDIT:

I can see the excuse SE will do for type-0 but not bravely default. Type-0 is in a last gen console. But still doesnt stop them from porting it

This is not a reason, port it to vita as a HD title, or just give it a psn download soo vita users can own the game, i can say that i own more psp games on my vita atm than i do vita games

 

[Razberry Knight]

alot of square's portable games don't get over here, sooooo I can see why people are like 'the game will never get over here' the reason being that alot of squares portable games in simple terms do 'crap' dissidia only got over here cuz it a FF Game

EDIT:



This is not a reason, port it to vita as a HD title, or just give it a psn download soo vita users can own the game, i can say that i own more psp games on my vita atm than i do vita games

Bravely default has been promoted just as much as Theatrythm and not only that but is developed as much as a featured SE game.

Also vita is still relatively new. Theres no point in saying you own more psp than vita.

 

[Steve-O]

Bravely default has been promoted just as much as Theatrythm and not only that but is developed as much as a featured SE game.

Also vita is still relatively new. Theres no point in saying you own more psp than vita.

well there kinda was, I was saying that it would be a good idea to release FF Type 0 as a downloadable title for vita owners, or even a HD port, as alot of people use their vita system as a device for both vita and psp games