Isn't Sin......Stronger Than Other Bosses In The FF Series

[DarkShadow]

Okay...............This compares Sin to other baddies..........Know I know what your thinking now Sin is Jecht.........Jecht is Tidus's Dad.......He is a good guy (even though Tidus didn't like him everyone in Spira did).........But Sin could wipe out like a whole town in a few seconds ........I don't see Sephiroth doing that. I'm not comparing HP of bosses either like yiazmat from FFXII or the Dark aeons in FFX or the WEOPONS in FFVII........Let's just say all these monsters were bought to real-life...............and had a fight My money's on Sin to win!




Who would you have a fight with Sin or Sephiroth?
Don't you think Sin is the strongest boss in the series?..........(Excluding HP)

 

[Gaige]

Personally, I'd say others are more powerful.Kefka becomes God of Magic. His spells could wipe out the world. Ultimecia's Time Compression is pretty powerful too, and she can manipulate matter. Necron too, mentions how he can destroy everything. I'd say they are more powerful than Sin.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Sephiroth all the way!!

Sin may have mass and strength and an almost limitless level of power......but he's just the
a meat puppet of a 1000 year old Summoner with an Ego problem.....Sin maybe be able to wipe out a town in a few seconds..........Sephiroth would take Pleasure i ending the lives of a couple 100 towns people......:seph:

Sin was just a proxy, an armor constructed for an old man. I even think Jecht,from dissidia, could woop sins ass.......Why do you think seymour ws in FFX if the gang were to just pursue Sin it may have been a very boring game.

 

[Kurughi]

Sephiroth all the way!!

Sin may have mass and strength and an almost limitless level of power......but he's just the
a meat puppet of a 1000 year old Summoner with an Ego problem.....Sin maybe be able to wipe out a town in a few seconds..........Sephiroth would take Pleasure i ending the lives of a couple 100 towns people......:seph:

Sin was just a proxy, an armor constructed for an old man. I even think Jecht,from dissidia, could woop sins ass.......Why do you think seymour ws in FFX if the gang were to just pursue Sin it may have been a very boring game.

Imma have to agree with this guy Sephiroth is incredible if he came to life the whole world would be screwed =| and sin wouldnt stand a chance with the fact sin is big and moves slow and sephiroth is fast and hits very very hard sin probably even get a good hit on him

 

[DarkShadow]

Imma have to agree with this guy Sephiroth is incredible if he came to life the whole world would be screwed =| and sin wouldnt stand a chance with the fact sin is big and moves slow and sephiroth is fast and hits very very hard sin probably even get a good hit on him

Do you actually think if they were both real-life sephiroth would win in a fight?

Sin Vs Sephiroth

I think sin is more powerful and dangerous, therefore would win in a fight

Sephiroth is just Pure evil

 

[Prince Oberyn Martel]

Sephiroth could probably slice through Sin with his Masamune and whip some serious over-grown slugwhale arse to be fair.

 

[DarkShadow]

Sephiroth could probably slice through Sin with his Masamune and whip some serious over-grown slugwhale arse to be fair.

But it would just take one shot in the head for sephiroth to die...............you'll need a nuclear bomb to stop someone like sin!

 

[Prince Oberyn Martel]

The hell can Sin do after Sephiroth slices his arms and tail off, fart in his face?


Hmm actually, probably yeah.

 

[Kurughi]

man are you serious i doubt thats sin wouldnt have the time to pull off some big epic attack since sephiroth will be constanlty nailing him with attacks and powerful magic sin doesnt stand a chance

 

[Dean Winchester]

Sin might be the largest boss in the whole series, but the strongest? No. If we were to mention the strongest, then that would be Kefka. Not only he became the God of Magic, but he could also destroy cities from his tower without lifting his arse from his throne. Oh, and again was the only villain in the whole series (Vayne doesn't count) to attain GODHOOD. Take that Sephiroth god-wannabe.

As for Sephiroth. Sorry, but Sephiroth is a bit overrated and that's Squaresoft/Enix fault for exploiting FFVII storyline. Sephiroth might have had powerful magic and abilities, but he was defeated by a group of humans even though he was at full power. Then he was solo'ed by Cloud in Advent Children.

Sin, on the other hand, was defeated because it was weakened by the Hymn of the Fayth. It was like fighting Sin with a huge hungover. The only weakness Sin originally had was its core, Yu Yevon. But ever since Jecht became Sin, the monster has been quite susceptible to the Hymn of the Fayth.

Also, if we remember Operation Mi'ihen, they built a large magical cannon which could be considered the strongest machina weapon ever created since Vegnagun. Guess what it did to Sin? Not even a scratch. If you payed attention, it seemed like the cannon was stopped by a magical force field while Sin was just...staring at them. :dave:

In fact Sin got so pissed that he wiped out a whole regiment of soldiers, chocobo knights, all their weapons and anything near the coastline and reduced it to dust, with a yawn (Ok, it was Giga Graviton...).

Sephiroth is a master of spells, but well not even the strongest of spells could pierce Sin's armour. So that would leave Sephiroth without any useful magic to cast so no to the following:

Blizzaga
Firaga
Thundaga
(all the -aga spells)
Ultima
Meteor

And would only leave him with his amazing ability to fly and his sword, which would be useless if he can't use any magic at all. If Sin would have been so easy to defeat, then the purpose of having a Final Summoning for that task would be pointless.

In summary:

Sin > Sephiroth
Kefka > Sephiroth

Sin and Kefka? Now that's a fight worth watching.

Anyways, this is like discussing who would win between Zack and Cloud, Squall and Cloud, Cloud and X-person, etc etc etc...

 

[Kurughi]

wait i got a question you said that not even the strongest of spells couldn't hurt sin wouldnt that put the god of magic at a disadvantage as well since we all know the god of magic is gonna use magic spells and according to what you just said that wont work on sin so how does the hole kefka vs sin thing work out?

 

[Dean Winchester]

wait i got a question you said that not even the strongest of spells couldn't hurt sin wouldnt that put the god of magic at a disadvantage as well since we all know the god of magic is gonna use magic spells and according to what you just said that wont work on sin so how does the hole kefka vs sin thing work out?

Well Kefka was a god, so he must have access to the most powerful form of magic aside from the usual spells we know in FF (Sephiroth, only knows the spells that we know). I am still wondering if his Light of Judgment would be enough to pierce through Sin's shell, but if a Final Aeon was able to pierce it, and since a Final Aeon is like the King of Aeons, the most powerful source of magic, then maybe since Kefka is a god himself....then maybe just maybe he could have a chance.

But if it backfires...

 

[Kurughi]

Well Kefka was a god, so he must have access to the most powerful form of magic aside from the usual spells we know in FF (Sephiroth, only knows the spells that we know). I am still wondering if his Light of Judgment would be enough to pierce through Sin's shell, but if a Final Aeon was able to pierce it, and since a Final Aeon is like the King of Aeons, the most powerful source of magic, then maybe since Kefka is a god himself....then maybe just maybe he could have a chance.

But if it backfires...

i see your point there but if it backfires chalk up another kill for sin

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Kefka..........what a clown!

As the god of magic.......was he actually ordaned or did he just declare himself God of magic.....coz if its as simple as me just saying "Im the god of ass whuppin" the guy aint no god. I dont actually remember the events that transformed Kefka in to the supposed God, but after Dissidia its hard to imagine him as one.

Of all the other FF Bosses or main villains.......possibly Griever could really mess sin up? Y'know the lion like Summon from FFVIII he was Impressive looking

Yes thats the fella.

Being the manifestation of an evil Sorceress might cloud his loyalties.....but he was once the pride of Squall and he could have some good in him.......Either way he seems like he could take Sin on and even win. His best move.....Shockwave Pulsar
could conceivably encompass the whole of Sin and really do some damage.

Another one that might not fit the OP's original specs is Titan from FFXIII being a Falcie we never fight we dont actually know what he is capable of, given his ability to change the weather he could pose quite the problem for sin.

TITAN for those who dont know is massive bigger than a Weapon from FFVII conceivably.

 

[Dean Winchester]

Kefka..........what a clown!

As the god of magic.......was he actually ordaned or did he just declare himself God of magic.....coz if its as simple as me just saying "Im the god of ass whuppin" the guy aint no god. I dont actually remember the events that transformed Kefka in to the supposed God, but after Dissidia its hard to imagine him as one.

Well Kefka took control of the Warring Triad, which were the original gods of magic and then then drained them of all of their power, concentrating the source of all magic into himself. With this, not only he learned every single spell in the world, but he could also control the Light of Judgment. He was also capable of creating his tower from out of nowhere as well has having debris floating around it like Lord Golbez did in the Dissidia opening.

With all the power of magic contained within one being, Kefka in a way, attained godhood. He was one evil son of a bitch....Sephiroth is mad....but Kefka is the definition of an evil bastard.

Of all the other FF Bosses or main villains.......possibly Griever could really mess sin up? Y'know the lion like Summon from FFVIII he was Impressive looking

Yes thats the fella.

Being the manifestation of an evil Sorceress might cloud his loyalties.....but he was once the pride of Squall and he could have some good in him.......Either way he seems like he could take Sin on and even win. His best move.....Shockwave Pulsar
could conceivably encompass the whole of Sin and really do some damage.

If Dark Griever junctioned with Ultimecia uses the Time Compression magic, he/she could simply erase the point when Sin was first born and ta - ta!!! No Sin. A very cheap win if you ask me.

Another one that might not fit the OP's original specs is Titan from FFXIII being a Falcie we never fight we dont actually know what he is capable of, given his ability to change the weather he could pose quite the problem for sin.

TITAN for those who dont know is massive bigger than a Weapon from FFVII conceivably.

If he controls the weather, it might not do much since Sin is used to live underwater and creating mayor tidal waves would only force him to retreat deeper underwater. That and Sin's magical barrier...which is his main triumph card.

But combine Titan and Vegnagun, Titan could distract Sin until Vegnagun charged his cannon, which was the only non-aeon origin weapon that could possibly pierce through Sin's Barrier.

 

[King Sean]

Cole is such a damned ninja

Letsa go down the list of FF Bosses

FFI: Chaos. Sin is much larger than he was, but as we know, Chaos was summoned by the 4 fiends in order to battle the FFI protagonists. In my opinion, his power was truly shown in Dissidia, which would then set the stage for the battle. I am not sure that Chaos, even with his mastery of spells could truly beat Sin by himself, although it would be a contest.

FFII: The Emperor. Before his return from hell, NO. After he returns from Hell, maybe. His magical potential was outrageous and destructive. I am not entirely sure he could break through Sin's shell, but if he did, his spell casting and manipulation might set the battle, although I consider him a little weak

FFIII: Cloud Of Darkness: She had the power of the famous Void. I think that size does not matter, as she could either use the power of the penultimate void to decimate Sin, or imprison it there, ending it's life. I think it is safe to say that she could probably own Sin unless she was weakened. Although I am not 100% sure, as I have not played FFIII too much.

FFIV: I cannot comment. I don't know much about Zeromus and his powers, but if he was composed of hatred, maybe his powers could be amplified enough to defeat Sin. Can't say for sure

FFV: ExDeath: Another Void user. As with Cloud Of Darkness, he could manipulate the Void in it's entirety to safely insure a valid win. I am not sure to what extent, but the Void seems to be a very powerful weapon depending upon it's user.

FFVI: Kefka As previously mentioned, he absored the Warring Triad's power and became the God Of Magic. His magic potential was basically limitless, and thus his power may have been able to pierce Sin and deal heavy damage to him. Especially if he assumed the Angelic form he does in the final battle. Taking into account Heartless Angel, if it affected Sin (probably not) the match would be assured.

FFVII: Sephiroth. He was a very powerful person, but as of Advent Children, I must say that if he can be defeated by one person, then his power needs to be questioned. It was stated that he came back stronger than he was in FFVII, and if one person can beat him, then I am not sure that he could beat the gargantuan Sin. But then we must take into account that Sephiroth was greatly shocked by Cloud's Omnislash attack and he must have been going easy, as Cloud was only one person. He may have assumed his Angel Mode had he been challenged by more than one person, and then Meteor would have been deadly. Being able to use Meteor, Sephiroth would have no trouble piercing Sin and then SuperNova might seal the match.

FFVIII: Ultemecia: Her powers of Time Kompression are what needs to be questioned. To what extent can they be used? Will they even affect Sin? Her final form has access to Apocalyspe, a very dangerous spell that can cause insane damage to the party. To think of what it could do the Sin She could very well be one of the most dangerous enemies to Sin, the most dangerous, even. Her final form seemed to possess limitless magical energy, which might just give her an edge over Sin. And if she could somehow freeze time or alter it, she would be invincible.

FFXII: Vayne. In his Undying form, it is just the question if all those automatons that he sends flying towards his enemies can actually inflict damage to Sin and pierce him. In this form, he is very powerful, utilizing the machanisms on himself to deal damage. In my honest opinion, however, I believe his attacks might not deal enough damage to harm Sin

 

[Saints&Storms]

I'd have to say Sephiroth, this is a guy who brought a meteor to the earth, and plagued the world even after death, and who wiped out towns of people before he died, And Ultimecia would stand just as much of a chance as anyone, for Gods sake she controls time and therefor controls the universe.

Kefka, I don't see how controlling magic makes him a God, and why that matters when Sephiroth technically IS a god...for god sakes he controls the lifestream and everyone is made up of it, and my bet is anyone could have gotten the power of the Warring Triad, so it's a lot less amazing than people make it out to be.

 

[Sultan]

Did you forget that Sephiroth has the ability to destroy the entire Solar System and then reanimate it over and over? Or that Vayne The Undying can nullify all sorts of attacks? Or Necron could summon 4 planets and have them deviate from orbit to collide while you're caught in the middle?

My point is: all these baddies are too ridiculous to speculated on who'd be DEADLIEST (Yes, The Deadliest Warrior reference)

 

[Dean Winchester]

Kefka, I don't see how controlling magic makes him a God, and why that matters when Sephiroth technically IS a god...for god sakes he controls the lifestream and everyone is made up of it, and my bet is anyone could have gotten the power of the Warring Triad, so it's a lot less amazing than people make it out to be.

If you read the story of FFVI, it states that Kefka had the ability to absorb magic from Espers. By the time he found the Warring Triad, he had already killed and absorbed as many Espers as he could making him the deadliest spell caster in the whole game. Now, the Warring Triad were known as Goddess, Demon, and Fiend, which brought the whole world into chaos by simply fighting against each other. Since they realized their war would bring the destruction of the whole world, they sealed themselves as statues and tasked the Espers to make sure they are left undisturbed, for if they were awakened they would bring destruction again. Heck, even moving one statue out of position was good enough to shift the World of Balance to the World of Ruin.

So basically, if those three separate beings could be such a threat to themselves and the world, I don't see any reason why Kefka, who had absorbed their powers for himself concentrating the three greatest source of magic into a single being, could be consider far less than a god. Not only he is the first character to pursue and attain godhood, but also his sole demise as God of Magic would seal the demise of the Espers as well making all magic in the world disappear.

Sephiroth, on the other hand, only had his powers enhanced because of Jenova. He didn't control the Lifestream by the end of FFVII, or else Aerith wouldn't have been able to summon Holy to stop Meteor. Also, since Meteor was stopped by Holy, and both are recurring spells in Final Fantasy series, it means that Kefka knows them as well as knowing Heartless Angel (another one of Sephiroth's spells).

Also, if Sephiroth had controlled the Lifestream since the beginning, then that would kill the whole point of Advent Children. The reason why he unleashed the Geostigma on the planet was in order to transform the planet's life force into tainted Lifestream. And even by the start of his battle with Cloud, he didn't control all of the Lifestream.

Sephiroth is overrated. Tells you a former, Sephiroth fan. Also, the implications of destroying, heck even altering the orbit of the Earth by a few degrees weren't considered by the developers. They just added it because it looked cool.

Oh and on a side note, Kefka was so feared that even a cult (in game) was made to worship him because, if you didn't do what Kefka commanded, his Light of Judgment will smite you down (sounds to me like many gods of many religions actually do).

And Genesis controls the Goddess Materia, which is linked to the Goddess Gaia who is the absolute ruler of the Lifestream.

So Genesis > Sephiroth.

 

[Tmoo]

strongest boss in FF history? Beatrix. No one will ever win against her. Never. Don't believe me? Go fight her in IX a couple of times. No other baddie stands a chance. She's a walking female Jesus.