Sin's First Appearance

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At the beginning of the game, there's an FMV where we see something that looks like a giant ball of water, and Auron says "We call it Sin". Here's a screenshot. Yet every other time that Sin appears, he looks like a giant whale monster. What is the reason for this apparent discrepancy?

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It looks very similar to this watery sphere that appears at the end of the game:

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Any ideas?
 
Im pretty confused about that too,maybe it was manifesting into a new form but i really dont think so.But that image you are showing,I remember seeing that and brought me into confusion,is it cuz tidus wasnt in his world with yuna or something?
 
If you look close enough inside that giant ball of water, Sin IS inside that ball of water. Another thing, in case you haven't noticed in FFX, the game revolves around water A LOT. If I'm not mistaken, that was supposed to be one of the main themes of the game was water. Blitzball is played underwater. There is alot of underwater fighting, a lot of swimming. Tidus' name is like the 'tide' and his sword (Brotherhood) is a water sword. This game seems to revolve around water a lot. I think that was just Sin's way of traveling to his Zanarkand was inside a giant ball of water. He's kind of curled up in that ball of water too. Just look closely and you can see him in there.
 
It's so that
Jecht
doesn't have to show Tidus who/what he really is until later, while showing off that he's a monster of massive power and needs to be destroyed.

All of which gets ruined shortly after Besaid....
 
I would say that on sin's first appearance in the FMV in the beginning is that sin is using his shield that appears to be a water shield or something. i've never really thought about it either so..xD
 
Eh, seems more like a suspense thing to me. Keeping your blatant main antagonist shrouded in mystery for at least a while to keep you guessing! The fact it happens to be a sphere seems to be little more than coincidence imo. A sphere doesn't have to be a sphere for a reason. Just is.
 
I think it's not something that's explained ingame because it has no in game explanation. I presume a massive ball of water destroying a city is far more impressive looking than a whale type thing. At that point no one playing the game has any idea what sin looks like so they figured they could get away with it.
 
I'd not really noticed this before, but I see what you mean now.

Perhaps people could say that this is how he crosses through from Spira to
Dream Zanarkand
.

It might just be to avoid revealing what Sin is so early on in the game. Perhaps they wanted us to guess for a while.

Alternatively it could just be that they felt a giant whale didn't fit the scenery. The first time we see it clearly as a giant whale is when it is in the water, and then again
attacking Kilikia
, a town built on stilts on the water. Revealing that Sin was a giant whale suited the design of the destruction of this town, and also of Spira as a whole, being a planet with a very large emphasis on water.

Having a giant flying whale in clear view at the begining, attacking a modern / futuristic city might have looked out of place, or might not have been taken seriously. It might have been taken as resembling Godzilla and some people might not have taken it seriously at that point in the game. Having a watery ball did fit in with
Dream Zanarkand
, as it resembles the Blitzball arena, and therefore nothing too out of the ordinary (apart from the
Sinspawn... and also being sucked up into Sin's ass
) is seen that early on in the game.

That might be pushing it though, but it might be possible that that is one of the reasons.
 
Oh yes!! I remember being confused by Sin at the beginning, but after later learning that he was actually a giant aquatic being, I understood.
It's not that confusing really.
As Serah Farron pointed out, you can see that Sin is actually inside the big ball of water.He just used this mass of water to transport himself upwards because he cannot fly and he really needed his explosives to reach the city.

(Personally, I think that Sin was made water-based to give the game's water theme a full contrast. It confirms that water connects everything, that water is all-encompassing.

Another example of 'water' playing a role in the game would be that memorable love scene in the Macalania lake when Yuna's crying n shit.)

I wanna say water one more time. The word is seeming a strange one to me now. Water.

Water.
 
LemonyMog said:
As Serah Farron pointed out, you can see that Sin is actually inside the big ball of water.He just used this mass of water to transport himself upwards because he cannot fly and he really needed his explosives to reach the city.
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He can fly though. In Spira he flies quite a lot. I think he is seen in the air more than in the water if you count the appearances. I could be wrong about that, but he definately does fly.

So if the water ball is to aid his movement then perhaps it was to aid his movement between realms. Rather than from sea to air, perhaps this helped him travel from Spira to
Dream Zanarkand
.
 
I never actually thought about this until reading this thread. Maybe as I was a lot younger when I last played this game I never thought about it in this view.

Perhaps, like others have said, it is a way of Sin transporting from Spira to Dream Zanarkand. It also fits in with the water scenery that is dominant throughout the game.
 
Thanks for your replies. I can't really see Sin inside the ball of water, but I assume it must be the case. I watched the Otherworld video again, and I noticed that Auron fires something out of his flask at a big wave approaching the city, and it looks as though it causes the wave to coalesce into a sphere:

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This is the first thing we see Auron do in the whole game, and it has no explanation. Maybe he was trying to save Dream Zanarkand from being destroyed by this wave before he and Tidus had a chance to escape.

And I presume the similarity to the sphere at the end of the game -
the one composed of lots of little globules, one of which is Tidus
- is just a coincidence?
 
It has been said a thousand times, but I don't understand why there wasn't a water Aeon, ie Leviathan, in FFX. It would have rounded things off perfectly, and made everything all symmetrical and balanced and wotnot. Given the heavy "water" themes in FFX, maybe they didn't think they could do a water Aeon justice.

Perhaps, given the picture in the original post, we could speculate that Sin is the spiritual water Aeon?
 
Auron isn't shooting anything out of his jug in that picture.

He's just showing the player that Sin is gravitationally pulling stuff towards him to destroy Zanarkand.
 
GBJoker said:
Auron isn't shooting anything out of his jug in that picture.

He's just showing the player that Sin is gravitationally pulling stuff towards him to destroy Zanarkand.
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I thought it was sort of a tribute to
Jecht
but it also looked cool and showed the gravitational thing.
 
I never actually thought of this until now.

I never noticed at the start (even after playing the game a million times) that it looked nothing like Sin does later on in the game.

I just thought it was Sin creating a big tidal wave or something. Not actually Sin itself.

But yeah, looks like he's just sitting inside that ball of water in the first screenshot. >.<
 
GBJoker said:
Auron isn't shooting anything out of his jug in that picture.

He's just showing the player that Sin is gravitationally pulling stuff towards him to destroy Zanarkand.
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How do you know? In the video it really looks as though Auron purposefully raises his flask at the oncoming wave.

To be honest, I didn't notice this when I played the game, but I do wish Auron (or somebody) had clarified what exactly happened on that day.
 
He's not shooting anything out of his jug...The only time you ever see him use it is during one of his overdrives when he takes a drink from it. Nothing is shooting out of that jug. You also know exactly what happened on that day if you paid enough attention to the game.
Sin is Jecht. Auron also has a deep connection with Jecht because they were friends and they fought together and Auron watched him give his life for Braska. Auron was also told to bring Tidus to Spira so he could destroy Sin/Jecht and put an end to the cycle. Auron came to Zanarkand ON Sin/Jecht. I get the feeling he was trying to hold Sin/Jecht off from attacking just yet, at least until he could get close to Tidus, but obviously Jecht didn't have the ability to do so being controlled the way he was.
Regardless though, he was not shooting anything out of his jug at Sin. He was holding the jug upward. Watch it here for yourself:

 
Sin does have the ability to fly, and still looks like a whale monster when it does.

And to be fair, it's hard to see through the water so Sin could very well look the same as it does in the rest of the game.
 
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