Is it Pedophilia When someone is attracted to an Anime Character?

It's not whether or not it exists.
It's a cartoon, that is obvious. It is not real. BUT. It is a child. It represents a child. It is a minor and fantasising about something that represents a child is very, very creepy and more than likely expresses some desire to get with real kids, whether they go ahead with it or not.
I don't think it means they are a literal paedo. Not until they actually do something to a real kid, but the sexual thoughts alone on a cartoon character that represents a child is quite frankly...Disgusting and very worrying.
 
It is worrying, but in my case at least, if someone told me they got off to minors, lolis or whatever they want to call it, I wouldn't be that phased, because there's no harm in it :wacky: Sure, if they told me the same with real children then i'd call issue in, but that's because it's not staying in fantasy. Ultimately, as far as i'm concerned anime children (which considering artistic styles I question that status, body type wise) and real children are two entirely different things and fapping to animated children shouldn't be put in the same boat as actual illegal pedophilia :hmmm: Unless they physically go out of their way to seduce a child or whatnot it shouldn't even be taken into account as an issue.

In a similar area you could say anyone who has rape fantasies or gets off to 'rape' videos (the simulated, porn stuff, not genuine rape) should be considered rapists because it can be assumed they have a desire to reenact it.
 
I don't think the subject is being dissected adequately. There are a few angles to consider:

One, pedophilia is only wrong because it disrupts the child. If a person were 30 years old, and yet had a disease which caused them to look only 12, would anyone who established a relationship with them be a pedophile? Better yet, would the person with such a disease, fully mature in mind, consider them a pedophile?

Secondly, age of consent in itself is a bit of a cultural thing. A few hundred years ago, it was not uncommon for a thirteen year old girl to marry an adult. Back in biblical times, puberty was the age of consent.
One thing to marinate on, and to ask yourself, is this: In a world where people live by necessity and have an average lifespan of 50 years, would you see such things in a different light?
 
@Damon. They probably do have a desire to do rape if they have rape fantasies otherwise why would you fantasise about it?
Fantasies are your deepest desires. That's what they are. So more than likely if you fantasise about rape or little kids, you'd probably want to go out and do it. The only thing that would be stopping you is the law because most people realise its probably not worth going to jail for.

@Shinra, back then it was cool to shoot people and women had no rights and were treated as dogs so I don't think using a time when things were so barbaric is a good example.
No i would not think it is ok to have sex with a kid if you only lived to 50.
 
On the first point, i'd say people mature with experience, not age, so it's not hard for me to imagine someone stuck in the body of a minor would have maturity for their actual age to rival people several physical years older than them.

On the second, it's always alternated based on politics and the times, that's how any laws or morality is invoked, it being wrong or right to the individual is irrelevant when it's the masses and the politics that decide these things.
Squid but what I mean is that just because they have these fantasies doesn't put them on the same level as a rapist, we all have our own desires, not all of them moral or socially acceptable, but what seperates us from criminals is whether we choose to act on it or not xD
 
Well that's why I never said they were a paedo just for wanting to have sex with a cartoon. I just stated that it probably shows some deep desire to do it with a real child and until they act upon that desire with a real child they're really just a massive creep.
 
Yeah, i'd certainly agree with you there, it's hardly something society smiles upon here, falls in with many things best kept to yourself if you indulge in that xD

Though there have been cases where governments have made the the decision that simply looking at these things (not even having to be sexual images) is on the same levels of being a pedophile, so I wouldn't be surprised if it became more of a common thing in years to come, at least in some places :hmmm:
 
Squid said:
Cartoon or not, if you're into someone younger than 16 (or 18 depending on how old you are) then you're a massive creeper.
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I agree

But it doesnt make you a pedo because the person character isnt real. Makes you a fucking strange person but not a pedo. Not yet anyway.
 
Big Casino said:
I agree

But it doesnt make you a pedo because the person character isnt real. Makes you a fucking strange person but not a pedo. Not yet anyway.
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Real pornography is everywhere, and yet people get off on anime porn- why separate them from people that get their rocks off on anime kids? One can say that whatever ultra-carnal mindset drives one drives the other.
In fact, one could say the same thing about homosexuality. Why don't you consider them strange? A man with a passion of having a another man's dick in his ass is less strange then one who is attracted to children?

I don't mean to be so explicit, but it has to be said. I see a lot of flaws and adulterated bias on the subject of sexuality in general.
 
Kids are kids are kids, sorry. In my opinion there really isn't much of a difference between looking at cartoon child porn or real child porn...the idea is the same. If you think it's different because one is a cartoon and the other is real then you are only making excuses for doing something wrong to somehow be okay. ...however if it ends up preoccupying the minds of some of the sickos out there and saving some poor kid like Jaycee Lee Dugard or Amy Smart a possible abduction and years of rape and toture at the hands of their abductor then so be it.

Ultimately though, I know people will still do it, so my opinion doesn't even really matter :wacky:

I don't understand some people's fascination with children...it makes me sad. They are one of the few innocent things left in the world but people have to have sick ideas about them and think of them in derogatory ways :(

Nothing surprises me today.
 
I find that most people who watch that type of stuff are generally the ones who have not had a stable lay in some time. I think there is only so much "porn" they can watch so they adapt their curiosities. Anime to me is anime, I don't like the newer anime because it involves large breasted, unrealistic, perfect women that constantly make "cute" noises and are submissive at the drop of a dime. Is there any realism in any of that?

Everyone knows women are not submissive all the way through. If they are even largely submissive, they probably were/are mentally.. depraved. They could also be depressed. As far as children, I'm not too sure of an anime that has "children". That's a bit screwed up, not for the viewer in retrospect but for the creator.

Think about it... "Hey fellas I want to write a flick about kids being raped by tentacles, you down?" ....... You see what I mean? Makes me feel uber creeped out to even think about how it even was aired in the first place.

People can have their jollies though.. as long as it doesn't come into the real world. I just hope it doesn't feed their appetite, where they want the real thing. I always suspected one of my friends who was always into anime to be a pedophile.. I'm just saying.
 
Shinra Executive said:
Real pornography is everywhere, and yet people get off on anime porn- why separate them from people that get their rocks off on anime kids? One can say that whatever ultra-carnal mindset drives one drives the other.
In fact, one could say the same thing about homosexuality. Why don't you consider them strange? A man with a passion of having a another man's dick in his ass is less strange then one who is attracted to children?

I don't mean to be so explicit, but it has to be said. I see a lot of flaws and adulterated bias on the subject of sexuality in general.
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Because most porn is of two consenting adults having sex. Gay porn is of two consenting adults. Child porn is of a child who is innocent and shouldn't be abused like that, Anime child porn is still a representation of a child having sex with an adult. It represents it. Who cares if it's not real. The fact that the person even gets off on the idea of a child, that alone is disgusting.
 
Squid I have to agree with Toni. Even the thought of it is disturbing...

I think in this day and age where the internet is SO big, the term 'pedophilia' should be broadened to mean more than just the act of doing it... It's watching it and/or enjoying the act of it happening, whether it be in cartoon/anime form or not. It's the representation of a minor. THATS why it's wrong and is considered pedophilia in not only MY eyes, but many others eyes...
 
Jolly Boots of Doom said:
I completely agree with you two.

It's the representation of it. It's supposed to be a child, and that's what's wrong with it. :/ It might not be "real" but it's still supposed to be a child that's being objectified sexually.

For me, I have a hard time seeing where the line is drawn from "fantasy" and reality. If you like to watch/look at it when it's an anime/cartoon form, what's stopping your mind from being attracted to it in real life? I'm not saying that most people who like lollis are pedophiles that act on their urges in the real world, but I'm just genuinely curious how one can separate the two. :huh:
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I think that's the problem.

People try to separate the two, one being a form of art and one being an actual occurrence and think that there is no cause for concern if it's in the art form. That's not the case. Art comes from emotion and feeling. Why else would you be drawing it? For the shits and giggles? Not likely, considering most of them are drawn well (Yes, I have seen them and they are sick)... I used to draw very obscene things (people being killed and morbid occurrences) because I was distressed and I didn't know how else to deal with my emotions (because I most CERTAINLY WASN'T going to kill someone or something) but it called forth concern from my teachers because they KNEW something was wrong.

There is clearly something wrong with someone drawing these things. It's either A.) You get a sick pleasure out of it. B.) You have hidden feelings for such things. C.) You are in distress or have a mental problem. OR D.) You do it for the shits and giggles. (even though it clearly isn't funny)

Sorry to any of you reading this who actually DO draw/get pleasure from this sort of thing. I'm just going to be polite and say you need help. I mean that in the most concerning and helpful way possible...
 
First of all, the word 'pedophilia/paedophilia' has always meant that that person has an attraction to per-pubescent children. There doesn't have to be any act. People are arrested for child molestation, and not necessarily for being attracted to children.

If you like to watch/look at it when it's an anime/cartoon form, what's stopping your mind from being attracted to it in real life? I'm not saying that most people who like lollis are pedophiles that act on their urges in the real world, but I'm just genuinely curious how one can separate the two. :huh:
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You can extend this argument to other things. If you like playing video games where you kill other people what's stopping you from wanting to kill other people in real life? How do people separate the two? The thing is, a lot of people are good at separating fantasy from reality. If doing such a thing were so difficult, there would probably be way more shootings going on. Just look at how many people play Call of Duty.

Also, there are people that do have rape fantasies. There are women who have fantasies about being raped. It's actually not that uncommon. Does that mean that they want to be raped? Heck no.

Do you think that people who are attracted to anime children creeps? That's really up to other people to decide. Should they be arrested for looking at pictures of fictional children? I don't think so. Real life child porn is wrong and anyone having to do with it should be punished. In order to make it, a real child has to be harmed and exploited. Being punished for possession of 2D porn is a victimless crime. No one is hurt in it's production. Being into something that people find disgusting if it isn't hurting anyone isn't reason enough to be punished.
 
Squid said:
Because most porn is of two consenting adults having sex. Gay porn is of two consenting adults. Child porn is of a child who is innocent and shouldn't be abused like that, Anime child porn is still a representation of a child having sex with an adult. It represents it. Who cares if it's not real. The fact that the person even gets off on the idea of a child, that alone is disgusting.
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99% of all humans are heterosexual with no inclination to the kiddie porn. The other 1% are made of homosexuals, pedophiles, transsexuals, etc.
The 1% are abnormal, and separating them is a poor excuse in making homosexuality and transsexualism not disgusting as you say pedophiles are. That is the flaw in today's perception of sexuality.

If no harm is done, then there is nothing more wrong with pedophile desires then there is homosexuality. That is the point.

The world is bored and finds things to prescribe fault to, not realizing it has to point the finger at itself as a whole. It is what drives everything from the laughable construct of political correctness all the way to the general hypocrisy of society.

I find pedophilia to be as deviant as any other corrupt sexuality, not any more or less, because part of the problem these days are children being infantilized and thus being even bigger victims then they have to be. All of a sudden, a pedophile is on the same teir as a murderer. And that, my friend, is a logical fallacy.
 
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Shinra Executive said:
99% of all humans are heterosexual with no inclination to the kiddie porn. The other 1% are made of homosexuals, pedophiles, transsexuals, etc.
The 1% are abnormal, and separating them is a poor excuse in making homosexuality and transsexualism not disgusting as you say pedophiles are. That is the flaw in today's perception of sexuality.

If no harm is done, then there is nothing more wrong with pedophile desires then there is homosexuality. That is the point.

The world is bored and finds things to prescribe fault to, not realizing it has to point the finger at itself as a whole. It is what drives everything from the laughable construct of political correctness all the way to the general hypocrisy of society.
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Theres a difference between consenting adults (two MEN, two WOMEN, or one MAN and one WOMAN) and a MAN or WOMAN having sex with a CHILD...

I don't see the argument you are trying to make... There's a BIG difference between homosexuality and pedophilia...

But we are getting WAY off topic.
 
Hayley Williams said:
Theres a difference between consenting adults (two MEN, two WOMEN, or one MAN and one WOMAN) and a MAN or WOMAN having sex with a CHILD...

I don't see the argument you are trying to make... There's a BIG difference between homosexuality and pedophilia...
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As opposed to what? They all involve mutilation and desecration of the body. Transsexuals have an average lifespan of 30 years begining either at birth or 23 years post surgery. It is an astonishing fact that goes astonishingly ignored. Homosexuals destroy their bodies, and HIV and otherwise AIDS spreads around the homosexual community like a plague. A good percentage of homosexuals have been married or are married- with children. And their children have to live with that.

So what is so horrible about pedophilia over them? There isn't- they are all the same, driven by a like carnal screw that unbolted.
 
Squid said:
Are you a Paedo? Because only a really screwed up person would come up with a comparison like that 8(
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If I had a nickel for every time a person attempted to win this argument by stating what you just stated. Do you have any real defense at all, or do you have no choice then to fall back on the lousy comment you just made?

I look at sexuality the same way a psychologist would. You look at it in the politically correct fashion, or as I like to call it, the delusional way.
 
I'm just baffled at what you wrote and have realised there's probably no point in arguing this with you because you're comparing homosexuals to Paedos and you don't think there's anything wrong with that.
 
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