Is it Pedophilia When someone is attracted to an Anime Character?

I will neither be in favor or against any side and I will focus on the concept of "right and wrong". In a group of people who share similar beliefs (like a society), a set of rules is made in order to promote the existence, stability, and health of the society. The ideas of Good and Evil vary from one society to another, implying that what could be wrong for us could be deemed as acceptable on another society/culture.

What does this has to do with the thread?

Everything. You see, it is in human nature to feel some sort of attraction to what's forbidden. For example, some people who steal have admitted that they do it simply for the thrill of the moment and not because they actually needed the money or were in difficult economical situation. They do it because they've been told is wrong and they just want to break the rules to feel the excitement of doing something that is prohibited.

Pedophilia is wrong, not because of what society has said, but really because it could be dangerous to the affected children. At such an early age, they are not sexually and psychologically prepared, their organs are still far from being developed, and getting involved in sexual intercourse could be harmful for their immature bodies.

Not only it can damage their reproductive organs, but the fact of being used can also mentally scar them forever. I daresay this to be worst than death, because a dead person doesn't feel, but a live person who was raped is haunted by the memories forever.

Now back on the line I intend to follow...

You can't punish someone for something they have not done. If they want to watch Hentai/Lolicon/Porn, their problem, not ours. What's illegal is the action, not the thought. Of course, real Child-Porn is illegal because the children used in that porn are real and the one who watches it is a complete psycho/bastard.

Loli hentai, well they aren't real. At least nobody got hurt. If they want to fantasize about Lolis then let them fap all they want so long as no real children get hurt. It's a fucking drawing...at least it wasn't a real child.

Of course, I see the point of a few people here. Desire is only a step away from action. The feel of desire is what drives humans to do things they wouldn't normally do. Of course, people have a choice of not to give in into such desires.

Again, you can't take legal actions against anyone just because they thought of the crime yet have not done anything. It's like sending someone to jail just because in their mind the dream of killing that annoying prick who makes his/her life a living hell at work. Oh that reminds me of that movie with Minority Report...

Now on a different topic. Why talk about the same topic if everyone has stated their points and they insist on remaining firm in their beliefs? It's like running in circles: pointless and stupid.
 
lreal said:
Pedophilia has nothing to do with the law.
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Depends. There's two issues been thrown about, whether someone is attracted to an anime character which, there's nothing wrong with, it's just weird, or if someone gets off over it (literally). The latter could have a case, a ridiculous one, but a case nonetheless. You won't find anything in law filed under pedophilia because it's all broken down into specific issues.
 
The fact is it harms nobody. It might be weird in your eyes, but just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it should be forbidden. Are you gonna put cameras in people's homes to ensure they don't start wanking over an underage anime character? It branches into Communism.

At the end of the day it harms no one. If it branches off into real pedophilia, lock em up and throw away the key, but all it comes down to in the end is you not liking something and wanting to get rid of it as a result.
 
Pedophilia has nothing to do with the law.
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Are you kidding me?.....

The concept of of preventing the action of enjoying Anime/Hentai in ones home is not the topic, the topic is at what point does infatuation with an Anime character, become un-acceptable based on the legal description of actual pedophilia and said characters age. In Reality.

Stopping people from partaking in such acts does fall under the same umbrella,
but an individuals right to do such things is not the discussion point, weather its morally acceptable is also not what we are here to discuss.

Its all about interpretation, does fantasy transfer to reality at some point?
what are the legal ramifications of such a transfer, does the law apply the same IRL
to the world of Anime?

Harms no one? really?......if people have to do these kind of things would you prefer it
not involve images of children? I think alot of people who have expressed opinions dont have kids of there own......and maybe dont understand what kind of feelings such acts, regardless of there nature, imply.......anger, frustration.

FANTASY IS NOT SO SEPARATED FROM REALITY.

If people can justify it as being right in one, not much lies in the gulf between to stop it from crossing over from 1 to the other.

I was done here.....sed ignorare vita et omnis!
 
One of you (idk who) was talking about making cartoons of Pedophiles or Child Porn in some other part of the world to try to deter people from committing such acts (which I for one think is stupid).

Making those things is JUST as bad as doing it, in my opinion. Because you are essentially promoting it and saying "It's A-O-K" by putting it out there.

Why do you think they don't have Joe The Camel anymore?
 
I believe it is pedophillia due to its depiction of children in sexually implied positions and partaking in sexual acts. Cartoon or not, children really shouldn't be shown in such a situation in any sense.

Although Japan has tightened its laws, they still allow child pornography and cartoons like so to be legal in their country: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

I'd prefer for this to be illegal... But obviously, I'm not Japanese or a political activist, so my opinion is generally unimportant.
 
Cartoon or not, if you're into someone younger than 16 (or 18 depending on how old you are) then you're a massive creeper.
 
I'll have to disagree, I don't see how it's pedophilia to be attracted to what simply doesn't exist. They're cartoons, they aren't real and heck, even the ages can be subjective, y'know, not being real and all.

And purely based on attraction to an anime character it's just a pointless argument imo, it's quite a stretch to compare attraction of a 2D cartoon to sexual molestation of a child :hmmm:
 
It's not whether or not it exists.
It's a cartoon, that is obvious. It is not real. BUT. It is a child. It represents a child. It is a minor and fantasising about something that represents a child is very, very creepy and more than likely expresses some desire to get with real kids, whether they go ahead with it or not.
I don't think it means they are a literal paedo. Not until they actually do something to a real kid, but the sexual thoughts alone on a cartoon character that represents a child is quite frankly...Disgusting and very worrying.
 
It is worrying, but in my case at least, if someone told me they got off to minors, lolis or whatever they want to call it, I wouldn't be that phased, because there's no harm in it :wacky: Sure, if they told me the same with real children then i'd call issue in, but that's because it's not staying in fantasy. Ultimately, as far as i'm concerned anime children (which considering artistic styles I question that status, body type wise) and real children are two entirely different things and fapping to animated children shouldn't be put in the same boat as actual illegal pedophilia :hmmm: Unless they physically go out of their way to seduce a child or whatnot it shouldn't even be taken into account as an issue.

In a similar area you could say anyone who has rape fantasies or gets off to 'rape' videos (the simulated, porn stuff, not genuine rape) should be considered rapists because it can be assumed they have a desire to reenact it.
 
I don't think the subject is being dissected adequately. There are a few angles to consider:

One, pedophilia is only wrong because it disrupts the child. If a person were 30 years old, and yet had a disease which caused them to look only 12, would anyone who established a relationship with them be a pedophile? Better yet, would the person with such a disease, fully mature in mind, consider them a pedophile?

Secondly, age of consent in itself is a bit of a cultural thing. A few hundred years ago, it was not uncommon for a thirteen year old girl to marry an adult. Back in biblical times, puberty was the age of consent.
One thing to marinate on, and to ask yourself, is this: In a world where people live by necessity and have an average lifespan of 50 years, would you see such things in a different light?
 
@Damon. They probably do have a desire to do rape if they have rape fantasies otherwise why would you fantasise about it?
Fantasies are your deepest desires. That's what they are. So more than likely if you fantasise about rape or little kids, you'd probably want to go out and do it. The only thing that would be stopping you is the law because most people realise its probably not worth going to jail for.

@Shinra, back then it was cool to shoot people and women had no rights and were treated as dogs so I don't think using a time when things were so barbaric is a good example.
No i would not think it is ok to have sex with a kid if you only lived to 50.
 
On the first point, i'd say people mature with experience, not age, so it's not hard for me to imagine someone stuck in the body of a minor would have maturity for their actual age to rival people several physical years older than them.

On the second, it's always alternated based on politics and the times, that's how any laws or morality is invoked, it being wrong or right to the individual is irrelevant when it's the masses and the politics that decide these things.
Squid but what I mean is that just because they have these fantasies doesn't put them on the same level as a rapist, we all have our own desires, not all of them moral or socially acceptable, but what seperates us from criminals is whether we choose to act on it or not xD
 
Well that's why I never said they were a paedo just for wanting to have sex with a cartoon. I just stated that it probably shows some deep desire to do it with a real child and until they act upon that desire with a real child they're really just a massive creep.
 
Yeah, i'd certainly agree with you there, it's hardly something society smiles upon here, falls in with many things best kept to yourself if you indulge in that xD

Though there have been cases where governments have made the the decision that simply looking at these things (not even having to be sexual images) is on the same levels of being a pedophile, so I wouldn't be surprised if it became more of a common thing in years to come, at least in some places :hmmm:
 
Squid said:
Cartoon or not, if you're into someone younger than 16 (or 18 depending on how old you are) then you're a massive creeper.
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I agree

But it doesnt make you a pedo because the person character isnt real. Makes you a fucking strange person but not a pedo. Not yet anyway.
 
Big Casino said:
I agree

But it doesnt make you a pedo because the person character isnt real. Makes you a fucking strange person but not a pedo. Not yet anyway.
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Real pornography is everywhere, and yet people get off on anime porn- why separate them from people that get their rocks off on anime kids? One can say that whatever ultra-carnal mindset drives one drives the other.
In fact, one could say the same thing about homosexuality. Why don't you consider them strange? A man with a passion of having a another man's dick in his ass is less strange then one who is attracted to children?

I don't mean to be so explicit, but it has to be said. I see a lot of flaws and adulterated bias on the subject of sexuality in general.
 
Kids are kids are kids, sorry. In my opinion there really isn't much of a difference between looking at cartoon child porn or real child porn...the idea is the same. If you think it's different because one is a cartoon and the other is real then you are only making excuses for doing something wrong to somehow be okay. ...however if it ends up preoccupying the minds of some of the sickos out there and saving some poor kid like Jaycee Lee Dugard or Amy Smart a possible abduction and years of rape and toture at the hands of their abductor then so be it.

Ultimately though, I know people will still do it, so my opinion doesn't even really matter :wacky:

I don't understand some people's fascination with children...it makes me sad. They are one of the few innocent things left in the world but people have to have sick ideas about them and think of them in derogatory ways :(

Nothing surprises me today.
 
I find that most people who watch that type of stuff are generally the ones who have not had a stable lay in some time. I think there is only so much "porn" they can watch so they adapt their curiosities. Anime to me is anime, I don't like the newer anime because it involves large breasted, unrealistic, perfect women that constantly make "cute" noises and are submissive at the drop of a dime. Is there any realism in any of that?

Everyone knows women are not submissive all the way through. If they are even largely submissive, they probably were/are mentally.. depraved. They could also be depressed. As far as children, I'm not too sure of an anime that has "children". That's a bit screwed up, not for the viewer in retrospect but for the creator.

Think about it... "Hey fellas I want to write a flick about kids being raped by tentacles, you down?" ....... You see what I mean? Makes me feel uber creeped out to even think about how it even was aired in the first place.

People can have their jollies though.. as long as it doesn't come into the real world. I just hope it doesn't feed their appetite, where they want the real thing. I always suspected one of my friends who was always into anime to be a pedophile.. I'm just saying.
 
Shinra Executive said:
Real pornography is everywhere, and yet people get off on anime porn- why separate them from people that get their rocks off on anime kids? One can say that whatever ultra-carnal mindset drives one drives the other.
In fact, one could say the same thing about homosexuality. Why don't you consider them strange? A man with a passion of having a another man's dick in his ass is less strange then one who is attracted to children?

I don't mean to be so explicit, but it has to be said. I see a lot of flaws and adulterated bias on the subject of sexuality in general.
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Because most porn is of two consenting adults having sex. Gay porn is of two consenting adults. Child porn is of a child who is innocent and shouldn't be abused like that, Anime child porn is still a representation of a child having sex with an adult. It represents it. Who cares if it's not real. The fact that the person even gets off on the idea of a child, that alone is disgusting.
 
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