Which Gender Suffers Worse?

[Aztec Triogal]

Men don't realise how lightly they get off Although, the poor boyf got the brunt of my mood this weekend....and tonight, if via text....so maybe they don't

Kelly didn't realize her contraception thread would give rise to another unrelated thread... but it did.

Who has it better? Who suffers more? Boys or girls? Womenz have to deal with a lot more bodily functions than men... but women are justified in their irrationality while men suffer for it. Women live longer than men but they also give birth... (I'd rather die earlier). So it's not to ask if one gender is superior to another but which gender has more hassle to put up with in life?

 

[Crazee Dayzee]

I think the level of hardship in dealing with gender expectation depends on how the person takes it and their point of view... Let me take your example; irrational behavior is to be excused in women, but not in men. This would mainly affend men, but I, as a female, personally find the belief very offensive and degrading to my gender. I don't like the idea of lower expectations being set for women, because it's sexist and implies that women are naturally not "as good" as men. I don't think many other women are offended, from what I've seen, as they sometimes use that as an excuse for flaws they make. So, really; it depends on the person.

Though, I do find that family court tends to favor women over men, and that it is believed that women are more capable of taking care of children. And that in cases of domestic violence, the women's word seems to be taken more seriously. This is completely unfair to men. This can possibly be offensive to women as well, though, as it loosly indicates that women are more likely to be abused since they "tend to be dependant and because of that, let men take advantage of them."

As for physical factors, I think women are subject to more suffering... They have to deal with pregnancy, menstruation, and are more likely to be raped than men are. They also, for the most part, are naturally physically weaker than men are, and so have to work hard to match the strength of a male.

 

[M1ghty Mous3]

I think it's actaully an equal amount. Yes there are instances where women suffer more then men, but I think men have just as much to suffer from and worry about as women do. Women sometimes owrry about getting pregnant, men worry about impregnating sometimes. Women are more likely to gte raped, Men are more likely to be doing the raping ,which gives us a bad name. There can be times when a women is in pain, and nothing cna really be done for it, except to let it pass, for someone like me, this could put the man in more emotional pain. Not wanting a loved one to be harmed if anything can be done or not, it sucks.

 

[Sealer]

I, as a female, personally find the belief very offensive and degrading to my gender. I don't like the idea of lower expectations being set for women, because it's sexist and implies that women are naturally not "as good" as men. I don't think many other women are offended, from what I've seen, as they sometimes use that as an excuse for flaws they make. So, really; it depends on the person.

I don't understand, how acknowledging that women are biologically affected with rapid mood changes, for few days in a month, is sexist in any way. It's pure chemistry. Facts can't be sexist, only opinions. And the fact that you bleed a lot and never die, doesn't mean that those who acknowledge it are sexist. Anyway this was the only part I disagreed with. The rest I'm a tad indifferent to.

I think that the people who let themself suffer more, suffer more. I don't think it's affected by gender so much. Different people react differently to situations, and some people are affected more than others. But yes, chicks bleed, and yes, boys have hardons and it all happens. Chemistry and blah. We can get situational and say "girls are more likely to get raped" , "boys are more likely to get beaten" , "women can't drink while being pregnant", "men have less acceptance if they're homosexual", but it's all situational. Many situations, and a lot of stuff that will never happen in my life.

 

[Crazee Dayzee]

I don't understand, how acknowledging that women are biologically affected with rapid mood changes, for few days in a month, is sexist in any way. It's pure chemistry. Facts can't be sexist, only opinions. And the fact that you bleed a lot and never die, doesn't mean that those who acknowledge it are sexist. Anyway this was the only part I disagreed with. The rest I'm a tad indifferent to.

Oh, I think I read that part of his post incorrectly. I didn't know that the part about irrationality was connected/pertaining to his mentioning of bodily functions until I re-read it. I thought he meant it in a broad way; that women, in general, are excused and are expected to be less rational, in general, while men are condemned for it since they're expected to be more stoic and responsible. 'Cause this kind of descrimination is still common. But, yeah, specifically when these internal events are occuring, they are psychologically effected in a manner that causes them to become irrational.

 

[Franice]

Eh. Although I'm female, I've never been able to understand why pregnant women complain so much about being pregnant. People love pregnant women. Yeah, you hurl a lot, have hemorrhoids, your feet hurt, and you've got to squeeze an 8Ib sack of misery out of your cooch, but for 9 months people will bend over backwards to do things for you. Plus, you're carrying a life that you're compelled to love unconditionally, and that's amazing.

Anyways, I don't think either one suffers more, just differently. Each has different roles and different problems. And...suffering is what you make of it. I, personally, enjoy the hormones that come with my period. I gladly suffer the four days of shitty moods, for the week of blissful horniness beforehand...

 

[Bambi]

Eh. Although I'm female, I've never been able to understand why pregnant women complain so much about being pregnant. People love pregnant women. Yeah, you hurl a lot, have hemorrhoids, your feet hurt, and you've got to squeeze an 8Ib sack of misery out of your cooch, but for 9 months people will bend over backwards to do things for you. Plus, you're carrying a life that you're compelled to love unconditionally, and that's amazing.

I'd rather do things for myself than go through pregnancy again. I was always tired because I had a gay iron deficiency, which alot of women get. I couldn't breath proper becasue of that, I was fat, uncomfortable feeling sick. Couldnt stand the smell of certain foods, and I swear I was on par with a heroin addict when I wanted brocolli. Labour was excrutiating. As were the stitches that came after it, meaning I couldnt sit proper for over 3 weeks. Then there was the incessant bleeding, the sleepless nights on top of that. So no, people running around 'doing' things for you doesn't quite compare

I would of said men and women had it equal before I read that comment, but bollocks to that. It's so easy for a man just to walk away from it.

I admit that they might get the brunt of our moods, but again, they can just hide. We are stuck feeling like shit

 

[Davey Gaga]

Bugger it - I voted for women but meant men. xD I'll sneak off and edit the poll in a minute.

So, aye, it's the men. We have to put up with the constant complaining (demonstrated in the opening quote), women have more daily hassles but men seem to stretch their hassles over a longer period of time, we have the pressure to be the stronger characters in life, we can't hide our "affection" so well, we can get much more itchy and unconfortable than women can in the ol' pubic region...

The list goes on and on!

*waits for a rabid team of women knocking these down and complaining about their own hassles*

 

[Dionysos]

Ideally we'd need to ask Tiresius about this one... But since he is a mythical figure, we'll have to figure it out ourselves ...

Hmmm. I'm not sure. People seem to suffer in different ways as different people anyway, and then on top of that each gender suffers differently too.

One thing I have noticed is that males can be affected more by lack of social skills. Men are usually the more confident ones, and shyness in a lot of women is accepted as ok. At the end of the day they are still more likely to get a boyfriend etc. But if a male is crap in the social world, can't form his words and can't figure out what to say to people then he is screwed. Because if he isn't up there confidently riding the horse of know-yourself then he isn't worth bothering with.

That said, I know a lot of girls suffer the same thing, I've just noticed that there tends to be more "loner" guys than loner girls... In that girls group together more no matter what.

 

[Busta]

Women have it worse.

If I had a kid pop out of some crevice in my body, I'm very certain I'd be a huge pussy (no pun intended) about it. I'm rather happy that I'm a male and I can enjoy the act of sex both now and when I get married in the future knowing that I won't have to go through the baby-birthing process when the time comes.

 

[Relient A]

Definitely Women, giving birth being the obvious reason. However, women ABSOLUTELY expects their irrational behavior to be automatically excused, even if it isn't because they are currently bleeding for days straight. I know there are exceptions, but I am yet to meet them.

 

[Dionysos]

Lol. I didn't realise this was just about pregnancy and sexual effects, so my first post might not seem to fit among this, as I ignored that aspect entirely. If so, then of course women suffer more than men, they're the ones that have to suffer pain. Men don't have to suffer anything.

If we're talking about things OTHER than pregnancy and sexual effects (of which I really don't know WHAT to discuss of relevance) then my post still applies!

 

[Bambi]

Definitely Women, giving birth being the obvious reason. However, women ABSOLUTELY expects their irrational behavior to be automatically excused, even if it isn't because they are currently bleeding for days straight. I know there are exceptions, but I am yet to meet them.

I appologise in advance for my behaviour. That might seem like Im making an excuse, but some of us DO PMT really bad. And I KNOW I'm being irrational the way I react sometimes...but I just can';t help it. I think step back take a deep breath but instead its just RAAAAAAGE. Every part of me just feels different I'l be easily upset, easily angered...uh, thats about it really. If I can cry at something I wouldnt normally cry at without being able to control it, why cant I get angry without being able to control it? xD

I hate that one week a month Im like that. I annoy MYSELF. But, I DO forewarn people, so at least Im trying .....lol

I get it off the mothership, I used to go into hiding when I was younger, she was TERRIBLE. And I , I fear, am much the same D:

I feel sory for ANY ONE on the recieving end of it, but actually feeling like that, aint easy either, whether people think we sjhould be 'used to it' by now or not

 

[Mitsuki]

I do believe that the females has more hassles to put up with in life since they do bear a lot of burden. I'm not saying the men don't share the same burdens - they do, especially when it deals with work, career, financial problems, family problems, etc. But more women also suffer from psychological distress and physical aches and pains, which is more often than men. I remember reading a few studies where males and females were interviewed and were asked how many of them felt distress for the past seven days. I'm not surprised to see that more women had reported a case of distress and depression. Of course, this has a lot to do with hormones and an imbalance of neurotransmitters in the brain, which is definitely related to depression. There's a whole lot more going on in the female body and brain, but I'm not gonna go into too much details because what the hell do I know? I don't even understand how myself works.

But yes, I definitely have to go with women who suffers more in general, just because biologically-speaking, there is a lot of things involved when it comes to female physiology and how it does indeed affect their moods. Yeah sure the males may get the worst end of it especially when they don't know what's wrong with their spouse or girlfriend who suddenly turned maniac in the middle of a movie, but I honestly think that's not a serious case enough compared to what women really go through. I'm not saying that men don't go through something similar - I'm sure a lot do too as well...it all really depends on someone's personality, but generally-speaking females are most likely to snap faster and more often than men, and in-turn, may even cause a negative environment to those surrounding them, themselves included.

 

[Relient A]

A girl I used to know has, pardon the spelling, endomitriosis or whatever it is. Apparently this comes in various severities, hers being of the more severe type. It was a pretty miserable experience being close to her, I won't lie. I mean, it was understandable because her periods would give her intense, intense pain... but still. She'd also expect her irrational behavior at OTHER times to be perfectly okay as well. That's more what I was reffering to.

 

[Aztec Triogal]

Just to throw this out there for those who argue that women have it worse because of pregnancy: it is really a choice. It's commonplace but it's not rare to meet a woman without children either. Not always but most of the time it is a conscious choice by a couple to have a child. Does that pain count less because its optional?

 

[Bambi]

If it's a mutual choice between man and woman, then Id choose to have the man get pregnant. We well got the short end of the stick

If I had the CHOICE, Id of been born Kevin, not Kelly

 

[The Illusive Man]

Well going back about 30 years ago, I would say that men all had certain expectations of them which often lead to a lot of stress and issues.

They had to be the sole provider as many women were housewives, this ment holding down a job and working every hour god sent, which ment they missed out a lot on the raising of there child.

Fast forward to modern day....now that men and women are considered equal, I believe that women suffer worse, as they are currently the gender that is constantly messured by a "standard" much like men were 30 years ago...

A good instance of this:

If a man sleeps with a woman on the first date hes considered a hero, If a woman sleeps with a man on the first date she is considered a whore...

Women often get branded with stigma's and horrible names if they follow a path that isnt up to this "standard", a man rarely suffers from this stigma and is free to carry on as if nothing ever happened.

So my vote goes to the women!

 

[Aztec Triogal]

If it's a mutual choice between man and woman, then Id choose to have the man get pregnant. We well got the short end of the stick

If I had the CHOICE, Id of been born Kevin, not Kelly

It would have made those cans of yours far less attractive, I must say.

I'm honestly on the fence. I'm leaning towards women because men really don't have any physical issues that they don't present themselves with. And even when women are being absolutely psychotic... there's always the option of just walking out of the room... or spousal abuse... so I'd probably have to lean towards women on this one, even though I really don't feel like I can take a strong stance either way.

 

[Shu]

This question is very biased though. I mean it's not to fair of question because everything is situational.

I mean base argument is I could argue all day that women have it worse than men easily, but the fact is men still have it comparable from time to time as well.

Let me list examples..

For one we all know the physical and mental ordeals that women go through throughout their lives, so I'm not going to repost what everyone else has been saying.

One thing I would like to hint out is, even if a girl actively denies wanting to look like someone in a magazine, she's a lying bitch. No side stepping around it, every girl has insecurities, and I don't know why in the hell it has come to this. If a girl expects to have fellow lady friends or even guy friends she has to live up to expectations of others..

While a guy can act perfectly f00king normal all day long and be treated with the same respect as a friend. (with the exception of mental people or homosexuals [no gay bashing intended])

For the guy though, I will say some things are harder. Someone mentioned something about work and stuff for women. What about those women who make examples of themselves by looking for a guy (75% of the time in marriages) will support her through and through and expects to work a minimal time in her life? How about the women who expect to have a guy act like a damn movie star, by being always giving, always mysterious, always confident, successful and makes her scream in bed till no end. Is this seriously what you expect to find?

I've heard this many times.. a man who keeps a woman happy in bed, is a woman who will never look elsewhere, and I know that's not fair to hear for you girls and maybe sexist beyond hell, but the theory hasn't exactly been proven wrong so to speak. People mistake sex for love every freakin day.. just wait till the romance dies out then we will talk.

I've also heard this.. a man without a degree or a certificate of some kind is a loser. (Ive done my college stuff, so this is not to me) A bunch of my buds work in construction and warehousing (stocking shelves) and make upwards to 10-20 dollars an hour. When they get enough money to support their woman .. something weird happens like.. and injury at work without pay or worker's comp... or they get laid off.

The woman heads for the hills, because they are afraid of supporting the other person (because that's how it should be... right? bs.)

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Conclusion:

I still say women have it harder because of their constant self destructive nature of appearances and feelings for their men OR women. Having a baby would suck to, but that can be a choice.. bleeding each month sucks.. but if you are in a relationship with a guy I'm sure he knows what you are going through (not the physical aspect but the mental aspect).

So Women win, but just admit men do have it freakin rough every now and again.