We will burn hundreds of copies of the Koran...

[Sum1sgruj]

I'm the one that's off topic?

Come on now, instead of picking pieces and shreds of my argument, read all my posts thoroughly. The Bible doesn't state "Thou shall not burn books", but does have to say it in that literal sense for it to be deemed wrong?
The answer is no. In fact, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It's because of that kind of general context that more complex teachings of the Bible become ill-told.
No sin is greater than another. My favorite teaching in the Quran, for example, is that killing one man is like killing all mankind, and saving one man is like saving all mankind.
The Bible practically states the same, give or take a few puns. It's not like we're dealing with two totally separate teachings here- they both have a close general concept of morality.
So you tell me- what do Christians do that is better than Muslims? Should it be left to extremists to decide the morality of them because Christians won't aknowledge their own blasphemers? Muslims aknowledge theirs everyday and to no avail for the prejudice they face.

Burning holy books is a construct of vanity, not a construct of God. That's pretty much the point I was trying to get across. And it only helps to stir up trouble. It's just as much a responsibility for Christians to aknowledge it as anyone else. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen that way_

 

[Ayumi Hamasaki]

I know this is gonna look off topic, but I'm not going to just sit by and get talked down to.

Why are you ignoring what I say? I do not care what idiots do to my Holy Bible because I know Jesus Christ would want me to turn the other cheek to their actions.


Stop telling me what I'd do, because I clearly said, I don't care if any religious book gets burned. They're just books. My faith lies in my heart, not in some pages.

The Old Testament is pretty violent imo.

And I'm not talking about you, so stop taking offense to what I say. To you they are just books, but I know Christians that the Bible isn't just a book to either, and they would be upset if someone burned it. I'm talking about people who aren't like you. All Christians aren't like you. They're some who are like I'm saying they are.

And I would never judge a group of people like that. And I didn't mean that you would. I meant that actions like the one this thread is about (back on topic ) do just that. Burning the holy book on account of a terrorist attack of a small group of Muslims implies that they are all the same. There's no saying it doesn't.

And let's not forget about how bloodstained Christianity has been in the past itself. Look at the Crusades. Lots and lots of bloodshed in the name of God. Look at what happened in England. Christianity isn't this peaceful religion that everyone tries to make it out as either. It just depends on how you interpret things.

It all comes down to the fact that the actions that inspired this thread are the ones that showcase the image of Christianity that upsets other religions. It doesn't matter how nice some are if you never hear about them. Every religion has it's bad apples, true, and you can't judge the entire religion on those people.

But you can judge that person's actions on their own. It doesn't matter if Muslims are right to get upset or not, it matters that this person was a prejudiced idiot who attacked a religion just because the people who did a terrorist attack were Muslim.

And this is my last post in this thread (again ) and if anyone thinks that I was attacking them personally I wasn't.

 

[Terra Branford]

@Sum:
EDIT:

I replied to you. I edited my post but that was before... >.>

I'm sorry Sum, but you seem to hate Christians a lot and that wouldn't be a problem to me if what you said actually held bearing on the subject at hand, or was actually true. I don't really like talking to people who have senseless hate that is fueled by make-belief "evidence" as to why we are "demons" and not even if its "justified" to what they think, hate.....

Again, I'm sorry.

@Ke$ha:
Yes, yes you did contradict yourself. It was very clear. lol

I'd like you to answer my questions please (through PM so we don't off-topic spam more than we have...). I watch the news all the time. Don't play games with me. If they exist BESIDES THE WBC, then please PM me where. Because all I saw was just pure Christian hate backed with no factual prove other than well, hate.

When did I call you a liar? When did I get upset?
I think you need to calm down and read my posts a bit better. I simply asked where and when and for evidence. If that's a sign of "getting upset and insulting" then you really need to learn the difference >.>

You didn't "imply" you stated. You should at least pay attention to the posts you made. You generalized all Christians and went on at the bottom, to do it some more. You could make your hateful, generalizing comments, but you should at least admit it when you do and bring forth proof to your hateful comments.

If you go off topic with wrong, hateful comments, you should at least try and show us why your hateful comments are "true". Until then, don't. Its that simple. lol

And this is my last post in this thread (again ) and if anyone thinks that I was attacking them personally I wasn't.

Really? Because you not only generalized Christians, attacked them, was completely false, but you also directly pointed out a thread Cali made about Aerith being a Christian to make a "joke" about Christians and their "hatred and violence".

That's attacking people for their beliefs, even if you don't see it that way.

EDIT @ looking at Kesha's new post &:

And let's not forget about how bloodstained Christianity has been in the past itself. Look at the Crusades. Lots and lots of bloodshed in the name of God. Look at what happened in England. Christianity isn't this peaceful religion that everyone tries to make it out as either. It just depends on how you interpret things.

Oh deary me.... *shakes head*

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I would love to show you how wrong you are, especially about the Crusades (something I have studied for a LONG time), but alas! That is not the subject at hand....

Let us get back on topic, shall we?

 

[Harlequin]

I'm the one that's off topic?

Come on now, instead of picking pieces and shreds of my argument, read all my posts thoroughly. The Bible doesn't state "Thou shall not burn books", but does have to say it in that literal sense for it to be deemed wrong?
The answer is no.

Does the Bible have to condone the burning of the Quran for it to be a part of Christianity? The answer is yes, seeing as you stated how this was an 'abomination' of Christianity. All I've done is challenge you to find the reference to back up your argument, which you've failed to do.

I do read your posts thoroughly, please don't try to make out that I tear these quotes out of context, because I don't. But you can go ahead and show me the ones I have if you can find any.

So you tell me- what do Christians do that is better than Muslims? Should it be left to extremists to decide the morality of them because Christians won't aknowledge their own blasphemers? Muslims aknowledge theirs everyday and to no avail for the prejudice they face.

What a load of nonsense. I can acknowledge blasphemers, but in my opinion what these Quran burners have done is as trivial as burning Bibles. It's the message which is more important than the material it's printed on.

It's just as much a responsibility for Christians to aknowledge it as anyone else. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen that way_

You seem to have a heavy prejudice against Christians, so I'll try my hardest to refrain from engaging you further in this thread or in fact any other.

 

[Sum1sgruj]

[5.32] For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land.

Real quote. I like how it says UNLESS.

Why do you like how it says unless? It makes my case
No sin is greater than another. So what is burning the Quran in it's full context as far as God is concerned? It leads to violence.. God Himself reinforces my argument here.. If you are Christian, why do you deny this??
Look, burning any holy text is wrong and is a betrayal to anyones belief who doesn't have a hand at speaking against it. I used to be a Christian, but I got to tell you: the reason I left it behind is because it just seems too damn convenient, especially with the conflicting religions that argue against it. I remain agnostic to this day because I feel that if I cannot agree with every concept of Christianity, then putting myself in the same boat as them only makes me look worse.
This is not an insult to anyone, this is my personal account with God. I refuse to fall for any deception of man, which is something he teaches. Therefore, I find things out myself. Personally, I believe that the real truth is between the lines of every branch of God. But that's just me, and who's to say I'm wrong?

 

[Ilyena]

This thread has clearly run its course seeing as the original topic is completely outdated and not one of the past three pages of posts is really on the original topic.

*Closed*

Edit: If people want to continue the discussion Islam and/or book burning in general, feel free to make a thread on it.