So... the Cetra are extinct

Humans didn't come from the Cetra; the Cetra came to the planet and were there when whatever humans were evolved into humans. It was then that the human race had an explosion of banging and overpopulated, and the Cetra fell almost completely out of existence. The Cetra were the miads of the planet basically in their time on "Earth". Whenever the planet was harmed, they nurtured it back to health. Think of the time when Earth was a mass of molten rock; think that everytime a stray meteor hit Earth, a bunch of people would run up and pour peroxide on the wound. That's basically what the Cetra did. They could also open up "vents" for the lifestream to pool out, allowing it greater access to the planet to heal it if it were harmed.
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Or, the Humans and Cetra could be one and the same? Maybe the 'Cetra' was really just one particular culture/civilization that was more advanced at the time (more well-versed in magic and the workings of the lifestream) and were therefore the most potent threat to Jenova at the time? Would explain why Jenova attacked the Cetra first and foremost instead of wiping out all life and then attacking the Cetra.

Maybe the Cetra were slightly genetically different in terms of ESP (kinda like how some folks across the world have darker skin, or different-shaped eyes) and this enabled them to communicate more readily with the planet, and this ESP-enhanced ability is seldom found in the majority of the rest of humanity, leaving the remaining Cetra -- like Aerith -- virtually the only ones capable of communicating with the planet directly? Thus making them the ideal candidates for working with and defending the planet, reacting quickly to the planets' needs?

This means, of course, that far in the future, humans as a race will get more and more ESP-oriented abilities as they evolve. Essentially, turning into what is recognized as the Cetra, for their ESP abilities allow them to communicate with the planet, and their deeper knowledge of metaphysics allow them to easily harness magic, the way the Cetra were fabled to.

This makes more sense to me, honestly. Humans suddenly overpopulating and pushing the Cetra out was merely Sephiroth's delusion. In truth, the Cetra were pretty much annihilated in the war with Jenova, and the remaining Cetra had no home, no civilization, and essentially no people to return to. Likely, they just did as Aerith's mother had done, and gone to live amongst the less advanced humans, melting into that genetic pool instead.

But that's just my spitball theory! :wacky: Think of it as you will. :3
 
The Cetra are Extinct yes.

It happened because of Jenova, "The so called Calamity from the Sky" .
Jenova was a threat to the planet, possibly the kind of threat the Planet didnt know how to defeat because of its alien nature.

The Ancients were an "Itinerant" race meaning they moved from planet to planet studying its Planet Life the cycle of the Lifestream and the role it played in Harboring life, kind of like a face to face version of the drake equation:ryan:

So the Ancients came to the Planet long before humans had evolved, supposedly, an all ready advanced race who had journeyed to Gaia to study Planet Life. Who knows how long they were there before Jenova struck? 1000's of years 10,000 of years?

Jenova struck the Planet 2000 years prior to the events of FFVII, and was a vicious entity working with in the planet, to what end I dont know? given Jenovas abilities its possible that She/It transform planets like Sephiroth transforms the clones and the Headless Jenova into a version of himself.

Anyway the Point is had the Ancients not been there to "hear" the Planet and intervene it would have taken the Planet far longer to heal itself with the intervention of the Ancients(did i just repeat myself there?:wacky:) seeing the need to defend the planet and preserve the Life all ready existing there they made a choice to fight jenova and lost many of there kind in the process.

This battle lead to a significant population drop that pushed the Ancients to the brink of extinction. But this is 2000 years in the past? why not have the survivors concentrate on
population growth for the foreseeable future.

After 2000 years to only have 1 survivor or 2 if you count Ilfana just doesnt seem plausible to me, maybe interbreeding with humans killed off alot of Ancients?> in the preceding 2000 years maybe they were stricken with a disease? who knows?

The point is they died out and left the Planet to fend for it Self.
 
For what I can get from the game itself and its spin-offs and related material is that, yes, the Cetra are extinct and yeah, the planet survived for, at least, more 500 years. We also see that Midgar is covered with natural life, so the planet must have healed itself someway.

We also know that, after Aerith dies, she takes care of the planet from the Lifestream. She does so in the end of FFVII, in Advent Children and in those maybe-official-maybe-not stories like On the Way to a Smile (Black and White Lifestream cases) and The Maiden Who Travels the Planet. We don't know for how long she does that, though. Maybe she kept doing that indefinitely or maybe she had done something to stabilize the planet, making it viable by itself, before becoming part of the Lifestream again.
 
Is it just me, or you half you people reading too much into the thread?

Lol if i'm wrong, my thoery is that the cetrans were born from the lifestream. They died due to stupidity (not containing jenova), instead they let her roam among them.

Don't take my post seriously now and start debating now, witth yas?~:gasp:
 
Emotionless said:
Humans didn't come from the Cetra; the Cetra came to the planet and were there when whatever humans were evolved into humans. It was then that the human race had an explosion of banging and overpopulated, and the Cetra fell almost completely out of existence. The Cetra were the miads of the planet basically in their time on "Earth". Whenever the planet was harmed, they nurtured it back to health. Think of the time when Earth was a mass of molten rock; think that everytime a stray meteor hit Earth, a bunch of people would run up and pour peroxide on the wound. That's basically what the Cetra did. They could also open up "vents" for the lifestream to pool out, allowing it greater access to the planet to heal it if it were harmed.
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Wrong. Humans are descended from the Cetra. The "trueblood" Cetra were the ones who went to help the planet heal the wound from the fall of Jenova, the ones who became the ancestors of humans were the ones who hid away at the fall of Jenova.
 
The Cetra ARE the lifestream, nothing will happen. I'm pretty sure everyone else was a ancestor of the Cetra too. Those who descended were Cetra, but not believers, which I guess makes EVERYONE a Cetra, kind of.
 
I think what is meant by the Cetra "fertilized the planet" was more like they didn't build cities and destroy anything, from what I understand, they mostly just roamed the planet and left it with its own natural beauty... So does the planet start to die because they are extinct? No I don't think so, I think it was more that they didn't do anything to destroy the planet. The planet I think has a mind of it's own anyways, or the life stream.... or something, cause
The planet was helping Meteor at the end it seemed with holy in the lifestream, and Aerith's mom said that the planet made the Weapons, not the Cetra or anyone else.
Well if I read it correctly also everything goes back to life stream, and helps reborn something else, so I don't think the planet dies, it just decides to get rid of anything harming it eventually.
 
Actually, we know for a fact that the Cetra built cities. That's what the Forgotten City is. And they didn't roam about any more than normal emigration, I think. All that crap Sephiroth spouted is just crap, he was totally wrong about it.

And essentially, yes, the planet filters out any bad things, but it takes time to do. Which is why the planet didn't go 'argh, smash!' on Jenova when it first appeared.
 
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