Obama Wins Peace Prize.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009?sp=true

It's true, the Nobel Prize committee has awarded our President, Barack Obama with the Nobel Peace Prize. A lot of the articles I've read, though, make mention of the general feeling of surprise most of the world has. One of the interesting articles is a Yahoo news articles entitled "He Won, but For What?".

I'm inclined to agree with the message of the article. The President has only been in office for about nine months...and hasn't really accomplished a significant achievement which warrants such an award.

Thoughts?
 
Odd, I don't dislike Obama in any way at all quite yet, but he should respectfully reject this trophy/reward etc..

Honestly he has only been president for a few months now, and like Ness said, he hasn't done much except give public speeches to children and schools and emphasize the importance of going to college.

While I agree on certain aspects, he has also made biased comments about the military, saying they are undereducated as to why they sign up for it in the first place. How do you explain the Seals, Green Barets, Delta Force, all of the air force... I mean most of these kids are fresh out of high school when they join the military.

Eh, like I said - these days I turn the news off when I see him. I am hopeful he makes needed changes to our nation, but for some reason if he hasn't started acting on it now.. I think he is a middle man.
 
"...for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." Riiight. So Dubya does jack for 9 months, and he gets demonized for playing golf on the job. Obama does jack for 9 months, and the world hands him a Peace Prize. Did I miss something? Where can I get in on that? I haven't, y'know, actually published (or even written) my novel yet, but I want a Nobel Prize for Literature! You can give me the Economics Prize, too, for balancing my checkbook like five months ago.
 
He's basically being transformed into a metaphor 'of' peace and as a beacon of something to be respected since America's been looked down upon during its Bush Era. A combination of that and the tremendous historical change that he brought with him upon stepping into office.

If he declines the award, it'll also be a major political insult.
 
Ness said:
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5981JK20091009?sp=true

It's true, the Nobel Prize committee has awarded our President, Barack Obama with the Nobel Peace Prize. A lot of the articles I've read, though, make mention of the general feeling of surprise most of the world has. One of the interesting articles is a Yahoo news articles entitled "He Won, but For What?".

I'm inclined to agree with the message of the article. The President has only been in office for about nine months...and hasn't really accomplished a significant achievement which warrants such an award.

Thoughts?
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I agree I was baffled at hearing that he won a Nobel Prize, I have supported Obama since the beginning...but Has he even done anything to deserve this 'Nobel Prize'? I don't think he has I mean is it possible that they are JUST giving it away because he's the first African American president? Shouldn't this Award be reserved for those who are saving lives and helping to better the worl and have actually done something toward getting there? Say like the person who finds a way to beat Cancer?

mothcorrupteth said:
"...for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." Riiight. So Dubya does jack for 9 months, and he gets demonized for playing golf on the job. Obama does jack for 9 months, and the world hands him a Peace Prize. Did I miss something? Where can I get in on that? I haven't, y'know, actually published (or even written) my novel yet, but I want a Nobel Prize for Literature! You can give me the Economics Prize, too, for balancing my checkbook like five months ago.
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While they are at giving you one how about they throw one my way because...well I've done about just as much for the world/our Country as Obama has :randompoke: Oh I'm sorry...'Pres. Obama' :argh:
 
Bush was not demonzied 9 months after taking office. In fact, he was highly praised for his actions 9 months after taking office. A certain something happened in September of 2001. In fact, you could argue that Bush had an extended "honeymoon period" with the media, the public, etc. because of what happened. He was only demonized later, after Iraq became a quagmire (Mission Accomplished!), Katrina, and so on.

I'm inclined to agree with the article as well. Generally awards are .... awarded... for results, not for potential.

The flipside, however, is that this is their award to give to whomever they please, and it does have some precedent, as far as giving it based on potential. So we shall see.
 
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Bush was not demonzied 9 months after taking office. In fact, he was highly praised for his actions 9 months after taking office. A certain something happened in September of 2001. In fact, you could argue that Bush had an extended "honeymoon period" with the media, the public, etc. because of what happened. He was only demonized later, after Iraq became a quagmire (Mission Accomplished!), Katrina, and so on.
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Yeah, I'm talking about the 9 months before Sept. 11. Bush spent 80+ days of his first 9 months on vacation, and the media was all over it. In fact, it was one of Michael Moore's main talking points in Fahrenheit 9/11. And all the liberal pundits were jeering back in January of this year that Obama was getting more done in his 48 hours that Bush got done in 9 months (I wonder how many of them feel foolish now). His vacation time and his equivocation on stem cell research were the highlights of his presidency up until September.
 
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I don't think he has I mean is it possible that they are JUST giving it away because he's the first African American president?
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That's exactly what it is. Don't get me wrong, and don't get all into a racial thing with me now because I personally think it is friggin awesome that there finally is an african american president.

My issue with him though is that as a president he SUCKS. Major disappointment to me. This man has no idea what the hell is going on (or at least he seems not to have a clue), the "change" he brings is horrible! Old people won't get bigger medical treatments because they are old? What the fook is wrong with him? Most of the now old people helped building this country, served in the wars, worked hard all their life, paid taxes and are treated like crap now?
While those young people who never worked in their life and are living off the state and the taxes that we others and those old people paid get practically everything???
And all the other crap he does, he doesn't even know how many f***ing states the USA has!!
But enough of that, in my opinion he does not deserve this prize.

Not because he's black, this is not a racial thing, but he is far from being the awesome president I hoped/thought he would be.
Also not saying he is worse than other presidents, it is just about getting that prize.
 
i would go as far as to say that he IS the worst president we've ever had. he's taking money from the only people who could do alot to create jobs.he is weakening the only thing that keeps our country strong aka the military. he's showing the other countries that america can be pushed around like it's nobodys business
 
My feelings seem to concur with the latest posts in this thread. I thought that he would be a good president, I was ready to give him a chance. Then, wham, he's not good at all. As someone who considers themselves a strong liberal, it was a big let down.

However, saying that he is the worst president that we have ever had is taking it a bit far. In fact, it's more than likely a lie. We have had far worst presidents, and we we will have them again. Our system is broken, shattered into peices, and you know why it is?

It's because of the whole two party system. It just doesn't work. One party never approves of the other party, and never approves of a president from the other party. I saw it on both sides, people hated Bush just to hate Bush, and people hate Obama just to hate him. Most don't even have a good solid reason for it. It's bred into us from a young age.

The Nobel Peace Prize really pissed off, though. He's done nothing to deserve such a prestigious award at this moment. It made no sense. My father told me about it one morning, and all I did the whole day was bitch about it. I just don't understand it.

The death of our nation is at hand, has been at hand for almost a decade now. I don't believe that all the fault lays with Bush, but alot of it does. Now, Obama is doing nothing to change the mistakes, nothing at all. It's horrible.

My father just lost his job two weeks ago, and has yet to find work again. Why do we reward politicains for doing this to our people? Why do we vote for them? Why is our system broken? I don't have the answers to any of this questions and it's driving me nuts.
 
I like Obama, I voted for the guy. However, I really don't think he deserved it. However, I can say that I'm glad he got it over that asshat Bono... Seriously, why the fuck does THAT guy need a peace prize? For making bad music?

I'm sort of under the impression that he only got it for being the first president that isn't white.
 
firstly i don't like him because of how he's spent more money in his 9 months(give or take) than pretty much every other president.

i also don't understand why so many people dislike bush, he was a great president suffering from the problems left to him by Clinton. and having to fight a war is a full time job in and of itself let alone trying to take care of all the other problems. and the two parties don't like each other because they believe different things. the fact that obama was supposed to be a liberal alone tells me right off the bat i won't like him, and why is this? because liberals generally like big government and they like to tax peoples hard earned money and give it to people living off welfare not even bothering to go look for a job even if the economy sucks what stops you from taking the time to submit applications especially if one is out of work.bottom line it's not far off to dislike a president because of the party he is affiliated with because if you don't' share those ideals you will gerenally be displeased with the performance
 
Wow, just WOW. The hell does he deserve a Peace Prize for?! He really didn't do anything except take money and spend it on his la-di-da sh*t. Ugh, And I even thought of voting for him! (under age) But I can't help but wonder if he got it because he was our first half-black. president
 
I think he got it because he's a celebrity, not because he's black. How many black people were raised by white women and studied law at Harvard? I think any other Democrat president with half as much charisma as Obama would have got it. Already in this decade Jimmy Carter and Al Gore have won it.
Plus Henry Kissinger and Nelson Mandela have won it, neither of whom were peaceful people. At the end of the day it's an opinion, people will always have different views as to who should have won it etc.
 
Yea, because trust me, Obama is whiter than me.. even 2 pac can attest for that wherever he may be hiding. Like said before, this just pretty much slandered the entire peace prize itself.

I don't care who it was, if they don't have a legit reason for getting it in the first place.. then you shouldn't get the dang thing. It makes all the others (with some exceptions of course) before you look worthless too. There are some well deserving people in this world, but until Obama stops being a middle man, and starts enforcing change (which might take some time granted) well it is safe to say.. we will keep going down the same river as before.

I think more democrats are upset than republicans.. but who cares... one nation divided we fall I say.
 
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Like Shu says, the prestige for winning the peace prize is basically gone now. Basically it's just a popularity contest now. Other countries support Obama because Democrats like to give money to other countries. And if I'm not mistaken, the peace prize voting is based out of Sweden or something. And it's odd that Al Gore won it for his "Global Warming" research, when in fact it's been proven that such doesn't exist (nor does he even support his own theories).

Since when was a prize based on celebrity, charisma or popularity anyways? There are plenty of great people doing great things in this world that don't get recognized because they don't have any of the aforementioned qualities.

The award lost all of it's value, officially.
 
Giving Obama this prize is an insult to the standing of the award itself. He has done nothing. He has achieved no great success, has not made a revolutionary discovery, has backed no heart-warming mission. He has done nothing.

Nothing, that is, except get into the White House as a black man.

Ah. So we come to the truth at last! As the hypocrites hoist Obama as living proof that America is indeed capable of all that it promises, they turn around and slap this prize in his lap on the sole basis that one of his race became president.

It's ludicrous. First everyone is chanting shit about 'racial walls crumbling' then they gift a prestigious award because of that very racial identity? What bullshit. Politicians are nothing compared to the two-faced nature of the people that put them in power.

Now I don't want to go on a political rant here, but I WILL provide some historical contrast here. Bush, after 9/11 did everything the people wanted. We screamed for blood and he went to collect it. Every was all for the war.

Then, at some point, everything was Bush's fault. If you must truly know, Bush has no power over OPEC, which was royally fucking America with the gas prices. Nor does he control the housing market, because the Treasury Department (which runs the banks) is somewhat immutable to the federal government. And it was the banks that screwed the housing market. Nor does Bush have some deep eldritch power at his behest that allowed him to guide Katrina straight into the Black Section (racial identity again anyone?) of New Orleans. Bush was raked over coals and razors for all of these things. Personally, I don't see how he could have done anything to prevent it in the first place. But he did stay steady on his goal, and he did keep the system whole.

Lets fast forward to now. What has Obama done? Ah, yes, of course. After his obligatory move to help the people (the 'stimulus package'), which also poured funding towards liberal ideals, the first thing he does is try to push a long-held liberal goal: Socialized health care.

What the hell? Wait a minute, since when was conformity ever applauded? He makes some token gesture of 'doing his duty to the people' by throwing our own money at us, then he races to push a major goal of his political party?

If he really wanted to help the economy, he'd reinstate tariffs. He'd pass laws to protect our companies like the Japanese protect theirs. He'd make incentives for companies to keep their jobs here and not overseas. But no. He'll make a big change all right -- but not that change, nonono, it'll be a change of the one thing that hasn't gone to absolute shit yet. Purely for political party reasons.

His leadership is lacking. Looking at this objectively, I see him only as a political lapdog. Look at his appointment of Hillary Clinton, who I admit I have no love for. He promised her followers that they'd be 'together for ever' as a partner-team, and by doing so he got all of her supporters. The next thing he does is appoint her Secretary of State.

We've seen this before in Ulysses Grant's days. Can we say corruption?

But that's okay see because he's black and no one can criticize him because that'd be racist and mean so nobody calls him on his blatant favor-fulfilling and political righteousness because he's black get it? and just to show what a good boy he is for being a president we'll give him this prize because we're not racist not at all! and besides Obama hasn't done anything bad because you see he's black and to say otherwise would be racist and we're not racist not at all! we support the american dream and since he's black we should acknowledge the importance of that so we'll give him this prize...

It's a never ending cycle of political correctness and smugness that will ensure the slow death of this country. The gifting of the Nobel Peace Prize just proves that the rest of the world likes this trend.

It's a beautifully hideous irony, isn't it? It's the fulfillment of the American Dream that will eventually reduce it to ashes.
 
i also don't understand why so many people dislike bush, he was a great president suffering from the problems left to him by Clinton. and having to fight a war is a full time job in and of itself let alone trying to take care of all the other problems. and the two parties don't like each other because they believe different things. the fact that obama was supposed to be a liberal alone tells me right off the bat i won't like him, and why is this? because liberals generally like big government and they like to tax peoples hard earned money and give it to people living off welfare not even bothering to go look for a job even if the economy sucks what stops you from taking the time to submit applications especially if one is out of work.bottom line it's not far off to dislike a president because of the party he is affiliated with because if you don't' share those ideals you will gerenally be displeased with the performance

Actually my problem with Bush has nothing to do with what party he supported nor the supposed things left to him by Clinton. It has to do with the rather large fact that he represented Americans as being racist and ignorant people who eat Freedom Fries, despite the fact that French Fries aren't from France. Of course, it was a great time for comedy during his office, as least people weren't afriad of saying bad things about him.


PS. I think, and I already hate myself for saying it, I hate U2, and he gets on my nerves, but Bono does sort of deserve it more, doesn't he? I mean he does help kids in africa and stuff. Why Obama got it, I can guess, but I won't restate what other's have said.

PSS. I think that T-Mobile is better than Cingular.
 
For the record, even Obama was dumb-founded about this. I haven't heard anything about him declining it (somehow I think that would stir up further controversy), but he certainly doesn't feel as though he's done anything to warrant it. Did you see how awkward he was about it? It's nice to see humility in receiving such an awkward and, frankly, undeserved "gift".

The prize should be given for doing, not intending.

Also, it should be kept in mind that he did not give his self this award. Extensive attacks on him in this thread is pointless.
 
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