SOPA - Internet Censorship
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Yup, if this bill does get passed, then I will officially lose all faith and respect I have for congress. Stupid congress should do research before doing something stupid. 
SOPA is no different than the patriot act, healthcare reform, or any other major piece of legislature proposed in the past 5-10 years.
All of it is intended to benefit the rich & wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
The patriot act is almost never used to combat terrorism. Instead, its used to prevent americans from playing poker online and other things that have nothing to do with terrorists. Likewise, its used to shut down or seize websites like ninjavideo. It would seem there's a paradigm whereby the government and media advertises one thing, when the real intent behind the issue is something else.
With SOPA, Protect IP and similar acts, for every person that says: "this sucks" there's at least 1 wealthy CEO somewhere in the world who is saying, I hope this shit passes so we can screw the poor and middle class further in an effort to boost profit margins.
While this does suck - for normal, average, people.
It benefits the rich and wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
They want control over what people can and can't see. They don't want someone that is starting their own small business to have the same degree of exposure they have. Fair business practices aren't their goal. Instead, they're looking for ways to make things more unfair in their own favor.
Large corporations like microsoft and apple who have billions of dollars they're not using can pay to have their websites be viewable whereas small start up companies or small businesses won't have the type of financial clout and will likely not have their websites be viewed to the same degree as larger entities.
Its really a means of unfairly leveraging the playing field in favor of big business at the expense of small business owners. And of raising bars to entry in various markets.
Censorship and all the other frivolous issues they claim this is about has absolutely nothing to do with it.
All of it is intended to benefit the rich & wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
The patriot act is almost never used to combat terrorism. Instead, its used to prevent americans from playing poker online and other things that have nothing to do with terrorists. Likewise, its used to shut down or seize websites like ninjavideo. It would seem there's a paradigm whereby the government and media advertises one thing, when the real intent behind the issue is something else.
With SOPA, Protect IP and similar acts, for every person that says: "this sucks" there's at least 1 wealthy CEO somewhere in the world who is saying, I hope this shit passes so we can screw the poor and middle class further in an effort to boost profit margins.
While this does suck - for normal, average, people.
It benefits the rich and wealthy at the expense of everyone else.
They want control over what people can and can't see. They don't want someone that is starting their own small business to have the same degree of exposure they have. Fair business practices aren't their goal. Instead, they're looking for ways to make things more unfair in their own favor.
Large corporations like microsoft and apple who have billions of dollars they're not using can pay to have their websites be viewable whereas small start up companies or small businesses won't have the type of financial clout and will likely not have their websites be viewed to the same degree as larger entities.
Its really a means of unfairly leveraging the playing field in favor of big business at the expense of small business owners. And of raising bars to entry in various markets.
Censorship and all the other frivolous issues they claim this is about has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Parrot thread. Aarrrrp, parrot thread!
As Mr Riddick stated above, this is something that is nothing new. It's the expanding chasm between the two unlinked classes of Haves and Have Nots. Of course I'll write out my pretty letter and send it, but I know the average American and can guarantee that for every individual who does, there are at least five who will not and that is the very reason for the expanding reach of such things.
As Mr Riddick stated above, this is something that is nothing new. It's the expanding chasm between the two unlinked classes of Haves and Have Nots. Of course I'll write out my pretty letter and send it, but I know the average American and can guarantee that for every individual who does, there are at least five who will not and that is the very reason for the expanding reach of such things.
you mean that corporate censorship isnt censorship and that the big companies want fair business practice? of course thats not what you mean. of course this is corporate censorship. you said so yourself.
the US seem to be slowly building their own enabling act. no doubt in the near future most of the freedoms the land of the "free and brave" once had will no longer exist. all on the backs of wrinkly old men who dont have a clue what theyre talking about.
its just an attempt to turn globalisation into americanisation. one day america will run out of fingers to put in the pies. what then
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_12152011.html
Well, it's going to be a merry christmas after all.
Thank fuck.
It's not even a joke how many senators were voting in favor of this bill just because "piracy is bad" and some of them even openly admitted that they did not use or know what the internet was.
Well, it's going to be a merry christmas after all.
Thank fuck.
It's not even a joke how many senators were voting in favor of this bill just because "piracy is bad" and some of them even openly admitted that they did not use or know what the internet was.
I'm kinda slow(yeah haha xD), but what does this exactly mean? the bill didn't get passed?
The bill was delayed like you said on Jeff's link on FB. Nothing has changed that I know of. Now we all just wait (and pirate the internet on Christmas of course) until they hopefully don't pass it. Unless they want a movement worse than what Occupy has become, they should rethink this bill.
Shit like this is scary. I have my reasons for pirating once in a while (that's for another thread though, plus I'd just be parroting whats been said in the vid for the most part) but this isn't and will not be just about pirating. The power they may get out of this will surely be abused and instead of stopping there it will just get worse. The internet has become such a great and powerful tool for freedom of speech and other area's of many peoples lives (music, games, small business etc etc; like the video covers) over the years that it shouldn't be subject to this kind of 'ownership' which this essentially will become.
The National Defence Authorisation Act is worrying me too come to think of it. Good luck with that, America.
The National Defence Authorisation Act is worrying me too come to think of it. Good luck with that, America.
you mean that corporate censorship isnt censorship and that the big companies want fair business practice? of course thats not what you mean. of course this is corporate censorship. you said so yourself.
the US seem to be slowly building their own enabling act. no doubt in the near future most of the freedoms the land of the "free and brave" once had will no longer exist. all on the backs of wrinkly old men who dont have a clue what theyre talking about.
its just an attempt to turn globalisation into americanisation. one day america will run out of fingers to put in the pies. what then
Attempts at censorship typically involve attacks upon freedom of speech or expression.
Intent to eliminate internet anonymity or punish individuals for voicing opinions within an online setting are attacks upon freedom of speech, or censorship, one might say.
SOPA isn't so much about freedom of speech nor censorship. Its moreso about control & regulation.
Some Windows 8 computers will carry a hardware lockout intended to prevent end users from installing Linux. Its not so much an attack upon freedom of speech nor expression as it is about market share and forcibly limiting competitors under exclusivity agreements.
SOPA is similar, I think. It won't do much to censor peoples opinions or erode anonymity which allows people to say what they think about issues without worrying about it being traced back to them and being fired.
Its just something big businesses with a lot of heft intend to use to shut down their smaller competitors. And, an excuse to bypass existing control and regulation of the internet in favor of a more unfair and biased arrangement.
-shrug-
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On a certain level, I almost believe having the Internet censored would be beneficial. It would certainly cut down on a lot of the inappropriate things online that shouldn't be viewable. :/ In general, it'd probably just be a good thing. And while some people may feel it's invading their privacy, it wouldn't be like the government comes to your house and arrests you for insulting the President or something. To be honest, it probably isn't actually going to make a life-changing impact on people. It could could both ways, though. I think the good outweighs the bad, though.
If the NDAA plan does go through though, the President (and thus any of his 'higher ups') could very possibly do that. Just make up some bullshit that its a threat to 'National Security' and in they go, take you and detain you with no right of speaking or court until they see fit. Nobody you know needs to know, just off you go to who knows where. Afterall you will be considered a 'terrorist'.
But as for SOPA it will definitely effect a lot of people. The internet is (almost) everywhere these days and it won't take a lot to fuck shit up for smaller businesses or people who use the internet to get media out there that we wouldn't necessarily get from the mainstream. Remember this is only one step. Further on down the line they'll just carry on and make up some other bullshit to take even more control. If it lines their pockets with cash they will not stop.
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I don't think they could void the Constitution entirely like that. And I think they'd have a pretty full prison of "terrorists" if they arrested everyone who publicly voiced they didn't like the President. There'd literally be millions of Americans locked up if they went that far. While the government may be quite stupid, I'm going to hope none of them are that dumb.
And while it may just be step one, I don't think the government is as malevolent as they are portrayed. A lot of it is actually sensible protection. There's a lot of bad stuff on the Internet. Porn, lots of modern day music, ect. It wouldn't be wholly bad to limit this stuff. And I don't think I'd die if they got rid of Facebook or something. Actually, it'd cut down on bullying at the very least.
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I don't have a clue about this, except folks have been trying to find ways of taking the internet piracy out of the game for a while and this is the only way they can do it? Meh. To be honest Copyright is only there because the FCC + Labels deem it. I think it's a crap way, because no offense music should be free until the shows anyway. The CDs and such.. well those are just Label sales, the artists rarely see the money. So by folks DNS banning sites because of copyright infringement... that's a little nutty. Though I do think Youtube is completely out of control with all the updates and artists they put on the site. Just look at the top 10. Seriously? Beiber, Pitbull.. etc etc - that's a total FCC payout.
They just want to sponsor artists that are VEVO. VEVO has soooo many ads that run on their damn video servers, that it makes me sick.
Just because people don't go to MTV anymore due to the fact they polluted the networks, does not mean they should turn Youtube into the new MTV because that's where people are.
SOPA will never take away Youtube, but I could see anywhere that they allow local artists and other artists to go on there, without the label's approvals to be stripped up their domain name.
It sucks.. but that's the corporate world.