HUSTLER offers Case Anthony a job....

Bez said:
A lovely speech, it would be great if you were running for president or senator or something like that.
Martin Luther King wanted his kids to grow up in a society where they wouldn't be judged by the colour of their skin. More than 40 years later, Martin is dead and racism is still prevalent. Perhaps if everyone really believed in change then things would get done. But they'd disagree about what should be changed and nothing would get done.
I also find it interesting that an American should go on about how his country is extremely democratic. A country where you need to be filthy rich to run for office. Where the NRA and all their billions of dollars keep it legal to buy assualt weapons for hunting. There are also countless other lobby groups. You have to buy change.

You don't have to be rich to make change. I subscribe to three seperate charitys with little money. At the end of each month (for the last 4 years) I have money sent to fundraisers dealing with enviormental protection, poverty in africa, and disaster relief fondations. On top of the I teach children in a country where english is not so prevalant within its own people yet. You see change is in the eye of the beholder.

And racism had gotten about a million times better in America I think. No change comes fast, but it has to START... to come at all. And the beauty of everyone owning guns is that once the government decides to fuck up something fierce, at least the people are armed with the power to rise up. I don't think many people consider this anymore though, because citizens if anything have become pets in America, sitting on the sidelines defending a lot of the bullshit thats spun.

Sure the rich person may be the only one who can enter politics, but once they are in office they also have to seek aprovement from the general public based on their actions if they wish to stay in office... and this is where citizens of countries like America are slipping. Its easy for a jackass to stay in office when there are so many ignorant people who don't care or say...."thats the way it is." The citizens are not putting on the pressure for change in the correct means, just as they are only concerned with staying in office, as are we just focused on the short term. People are not reading between the lines, they just watch political debates and decide between the two. I think one day "being" in office, will be accompanied by the pressure of positive change, not just greedy change.

All morality is subjective. I don't think this is immoral, it's capitalism baby. Hustler are exploiting all the controversy to make some money. Exploiting something to make money is pretty much how capitalism work. If you share some of Milton Friedman's views vis-a-vis economics, you could claim that it would be 'immoral' to not pay Casey Anthony to get naked. They have a duty to their shareholders to make as much money as possible.


And this is what I don't like, even though I can not change it, this is what the rant is about. I dislike the fact that "good business", has sunk even to the level of taking advatage of an abandoned murdered child for perverts, and I'm sorry if that makes me sound stupid, but I think it sounds like sane thinking. I am disappointed to see how few people agree with that. Whether the woman commited the crime or not, this is the reason they want her, and the fact that they WILL profit... just seems shameful to me. Call me old fashion I guess.
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@Ambassador_Awesome my pal

People seem to think that our morals are getting worse, that we have entered a decadent capitalist society rife with immorality. How many years ago was it that lynching was a common and acceptable practice in America? Not very long ago is of course the answer, this was a morally acceptable practice. A large amount of white people thought they were better than black people, and treated them as animals. Slavery and all that.

In those days a pornographic magazine would be the height of immorality, yet slavery was totes mcgotes cool. Nowadays slavery is long abolished, racism is rather arguably in decline, but a dirty magazine is still immoral? If you are saying that humans are losing morality and becoming amoral/immoral are you legitimately saying that a magazine featuring a spread of a woman who was found innocent, is worse than slavery?

Also for someone who is so driven towards an 'ideal world' you seem remarkably unforgiving. You also have an odd grasp of what makes you more moral than the rest of us mere mortals. Teaching English in China isn't charitable, it's a pretty well off country. It would be like me praising my old German teacher for doing charity.

What is wrong and immoral with buying sex? I do not believe I will ever purchase sex, but I do not think that makes me better or worse than anyone. I do not understand why someone buying sex is frowned upon so much, does it make me a scumbag because I purchase a cake instead of baking it myself?

I do not think anyone will read this post because you are all locked in discussion, however I wish to increase my post count
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Licky said:
@Ambassador_Awesome my pal​



Hello ​

People seem to think that our morals are getting worse, that we have entered a decadent capitalist society rife with immorality. How many years ago was it that lynching was a common and acceptable practice in America? Not very long ago is of course the answer, this was a morally acceptable practice. A large amount of white people thought they were better than black people, and treated them as animals. Slavery and all that.​

I do not think we are getting worse, just that we could get better faster if people cared more.​

In those days a pornographic magazine would be the height of immorality, yet slavery was totes mcgotes cool. Nowadays slavery is long abolished, racism is rather arguably in decline, but a dirty magazine is still immoral? If you are saying that humans are losing morality and becoming amoral/immoral are you legitimately saying that a magazine featuring a spread of a woman who was found innocent, is worse than slavery?​

I never said porno was bad, I just don't like the exploitation of a murdered child. Its not because she hot, its not because she is sexy, it is because people want a fantasy about a killer, whether innocent or not, thats the catch for it. I just don't like it.​

Also for someone who is so driven towards an 'ideal world' you seem remarkably unforgiving. You also have an odd grasp of what makes you more moral than the rest of us mere mortals. Teaching English in China isn't charitable, it's a pretty well off country. It would be like me praising my old German teacher for doing charity.​

You have to go there to understand that China is not as well off as you think, do some research on the matter. The economy and goverment have grown fast and have money, but its overpopulated in the wrong places and the social network is switching drastically. Over 90% percent of the occupation is farming (with their hands) and are not well educated, and over 80% are in poverty in crumbling towns and villages. This inspires people to quit farming (when they produce ALL of their own food) and flee to the cities to be beat down in competition by over educated people. You cannot run the farming equipment like they do in the west, the landscape is fucked. In general people think form the news that China is oh so powerful and wealthy, but you have to come here to understand its wealth is severely sperated from the majority of people. They cannot build their own planes even, and when they tried to make an awesome train it turned into a national slaughter.

Your right that I lack forgiveness sometimes. I am just tired of people taking advantage of the concept. Call me a fire and brimstone kind of guy, but sometimes I do not mind the Eye for an Eye concept.​

What is wrong and immoral with buying sex? I do not believe I will ever purchase sex, but I do not think that makes me better or worse than anyone. I do not understand why someone buying sex is frowned upon so much, does it make me a scumbag because I purchase a cake instead of baking it myself?​


I don't find it immoral to buy sex, but when you look inside yourself do you really think its that moral? Will you teach your kids its ok to do so? That is how I seperate my morals between what I do now and what I will teach my kids. Sex diseases are pretty wild in this day and age, and there is no security for yourself. Is that how we want to encourage the economy as far as jobs go?​

I do not think anyone will read this post because you are all locked in discussion, however I wish to increase my post count​

I read it, and thank you for your opinion. :grin:​
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Roland_Deschain said:
I do not think we are getting worse, just that we could get better faster if people cared more.​
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Roland_Deschain said:
The replies to this thread just verifies the point I was actually making, society and morality are slowely slipping away.
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Roland_Deschain said:
I never said porno was bad, I just don't like the exploitation of a murdered child. Its not because she hot, its not because she is sexy, it is because people want a fantasy about a killer, whether innocent or not, thats the catch for it. I just don't like it.​
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I think she is pretty damn hot, and a good few other members have mentioned they find her attractive. I don't think people want to jerk it to 'a killer' very much, she is an attractive person who has been in the spot light. How can you clamour for an ideal world yet refuse to believe that someone can be found innocent? Maybe the editor of Hustler like many people realised that her life is ruined, and she wont be able to get a job for a long time? Making money and helping someone out at the same time isn't a crime. If you want an ideal world, perhaps you should believe the best in people.

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Roland_Deschain said:
You have to go there to understand that China is not as well off as you think, do some research on the matter. The economy and goverment have grown fast and have money, but its overpopulated in the wrong places and the social network is switching drastically. Over 90% percent of the occupation is farming (with their hands) and are not well educated, and over 80% are in poverty in crumbling towns and villages. This inspires people to quit farming (when they produce ALL of their own food) and flee to the cities to be beat down in competition by over educated people. You cannot run the farming equipment like they do in the west, the landscape is fucked. In general people think form the news that China is oh so powerful and wealthy, but you have to come here to understand its wealth is severely sperated from the majority of people. They cannot build their own planes even, and when they tried to make an awesome train it turned into a national slaughter.
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Well I do not know anything about China, but where do you teach there, in a city or shitty town? And I assume you are being paid

Roland_Deschain said:
Your right that I lack forgiveness sometimes. I am just tired of people taking advantage of the concept. Call me a fire and brimstone kind of guy, but sometimes I do not mind the Eye for an Eye concept.
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Leaves the whole world blind etc. etc. etc. I find it a tad patronising then, that you pontificate about morality

Roland_Deschain said:
I don't find it immoral to buy sex, but when you look inside yourself do you really think its that moral? Will you teach your kids its ok to do so? That is how I seperate my morals between what I do now and what I will teach my kids. Sex diseases are pretty wild in this day and age, and there is no security for yourself. Is that how we want to encourage the economy as far as jobs go?​
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Moral? It is not a question morality, I do not think buying it is either. It's like discussing the morality of buying a glass of delicious orange juice. It's just a life style choice, a morally null situation. STDs are everywhere not just in hookers, in the countries where it is legal it's actually safer as they are subject to health checks.

No I'll teach my children, and let them make their own decisions.
 
Licky said:
I think she is pretty damn hot, and a good few other members have mentioned they find her attractive. I don't think people want to jerk it to 'a killer' very much, she is an attractive person who has been in the spot light. How can you clamour for an ideal world yet refuse to believe that someone can be found innocent? Maybe the editor of Hustler like many people realised that her life is ruined, and she wont be able to get a job for a long time? Making money and helping someone out at the same time isn't a crime. If you want an ideal world, perhaps you should believe the best in people.

Even if she was georgeous, the result is of her getting public supported by the aftermath of a Child killing. Essentially in the end I feel its almost like everyone is paying for the spectacle.

I guess our opinions are different




Well I do not know anything about China, but where do you teach there, in a city or shitty town? And I assume you are being paid

I live in an expensive city (Beijing), I spend most of the money I save visiting my family. Here the price is 3 times that of normal out of college graduates... yet in America its like minimum wage full time or less....thats some perspective eh?​



Leaves the whole world blind etc. etc. etc. I find it a tad patronising then, that you pontificate about morality

I'm am not only preaching about morality, but also the moral dedication of 3 billion people just doing their part. Can you imagine what it would be like if everyone who had extra money put a little extra towards places that society was missing on a time over time basis. Can you imagine how far we would get and what triumphs we can accomplish if people generally cared for each other. But no... I get to watch a killer be aquited, a terrorist doing radical killings, and the need for money create a disasterous train wreck by forcing due to growth under pressure. I am nothing more then a humanitist augnostic when it comes down to it. I think we should work together.

Or we may just disagree here too.



Moral? It is not a question morality, I do not think buying it is either. It's like discussing the morality of buying a glass of delicious orange juice. It's just a life style choice, a morally null situation. STDs are everywhere not just in hookers, in the countries where it is legal it's actually safer as they are subject to health checks.

then we differ on opinion, because I do think its not moral to pay a women for sex.

No I'll teach my children, and let them make their own decisions.

Of course, but I want them to at least know what good decisions are. I would rather they got a girlfriend instead of buying a hooker.
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if you feel so strongly about it give money to charity yourself.

a lot of people are scraping by. the last thing they want or need is to try and give a shit about akotwongoko in ethiopia. charity begins at home.
 
Jim said:
if you feel so strongly about it give money to charity yourself.

a lot of people are scraping by. the last thing they want or need is to try and give a shit about akotwongoko in ethiopia. charity begins at home.
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I do give charity... scroll up. I subscribe to three on a monthly basis and left an account will savings open in America so I would not have to exchange, and my sis helps.

And we have clarity compared with much of the world. Friends are made by helping, not bombing you silly goose you =)

I never have more then a paycheck ahead of me, but I am a smart planner so I don't worry.
 
perhaps not everyone is as generous as you are. that doesnt make them immoral, that makes them sensible and human. so called "good will" is very exciting but its not part of our nature to give something for nothing. perhaps thats why so many people dont give a shit, they just live their lives and quite rightly so.

you silly goose.
 
Jim said:
perhaps not everyone is as generous as you are. that doesnt make them immoral, that makes them sensible and human. so called "good will" is very exciting but its not part of our nature to give something for nothing. perhaps thats why so many people dont give a shit, they just live their lives and quite rightly so.

you silly goose.
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You have misconstrued my words beyond recognition on that one, thats worse then a straw man.

Seeing as we seperated our opinions a while ago, and now you are taking a conversation (that you havent apparently read), and that I was having with someone else... completely out of context. I was talking about making change without wealth. I said "can you imagine", not "people should".

It seems you are debating at me, and not with me.
 
Alright guys, let's try to keep the non contributive/spammy posts out of this thread, please. :) Thank you.
 
I am more interested in what her answer will be.

I'm not surprised this would happen. She's a perfect target, and imagine what sales would be like! That's all they care about anyway, making money.

I will be ashamed if she says yes, because it is degrading AND it will lower her ties with her families even more.
 
Starstruck said:

I will be ashamed if she says yes, because it is degrading AND it will lower her ties with her families even more.
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Sad but true...but..what choice dose she have?

If she gets a job in a Office or Shop. They may shun her. If they belive her to be guilty. and her Boss. If he/she thinks Casey's Gulity. will they really let her in?

People Think that bosses will out aside Diffrences for a good worker. While this is true...The Majority...don't.

And anyway. why would she work at a job where Everyone might look down upon her? In Hustler. She gets money and is able to live. Sure she might be looked down upon. But it's just a few naked photoshoots. It isn't like she's going to a job sitting at a Desk as people around her try and ruin her life.

When things like this happen. the Accused are always put into a Jam when it comes to living. "Would my co-workers accept me? will they try to hurt me?"

At least with this she has a Firm job, and money coming In. allowing her to live her life.

If you were in this situation. what would you pick?

A Firm life style? or Lowered Family ties?
 
Garland said:
Sad but true...but..what choice dose she have?

If she gets a job in a Office or Shop. They may shun her. If they belive her to be guilty. and her Boss. If he/she thinks Casey's Gulity. will they really let her in?
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Garland said:


People Think that bosses will out aside Diffrences for a good worker. While this is true...The Majority...don't.

And anyway. why would she work at a job where Everyone might look down upon her? In Hustler. She gets money and is able to live. Sure she might be looked down upon. But it's just a few naked photoshoots. It isn't like she's going to a job sitting at a Desk as people around her try and ruin her life.

When things like this happen. the Accused are always put into a Jam when it comes to living. "Would my co-workers accept me? will they try to hurt me?"

At least with this she has a Firm job, and money coming In. allowing her to live her life.

If you were in this situation. what would you pick?

A Firm life style? or Lowered Family ties?
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Will it last? That one shoot isn't going to fix her life.
"Just a few pictures"? After that, it will be literally IMPOSSIBLE for her to get a job, besides another like that.

Right now, she may be able to fix her family ties, and there may be SOME job out there that isn't going to turn her into a porn star.

500,000$ with taxes leaves you not enough for the rest of your life. Also, she says she wants another child. And I don't think the best step for that is to become a porn star.

You are already the most hated woman in America. It will probably blow over in a few years, but going from "Possible Child Murderer" to a porn star is going ensure and deepen that spot.

Money ISN'T everything.
 
I know that.

I Know that One photoshoot Will not cover her for life.

However: With the things she has now This may be her best bet. At least to get her Life back on track.

Money is what Runs this world. Without it you fall. I don't like it. but its true. she can live with her parents untill she gets a Job but how long will it be to find her a Job?

IMO She needs the money she can get Right now in order to straighten out her Life. Then she can move on have a Child. Not fail this time.

I don't want her to become a Porn star either. especially if she wants another Child. But this may be her best bet for the moment.

I do however have to agree with you. If she takes this another job is somewhat scarce. Not impossible. but she will have tons of trouble.

Besides taking this offer up. Possibly moving in with her Family might also be the best option. Allthoguh I adressed my Concerns ont hat matter above: "How long can they hold her up for?"

Deepen it might. But to live. people would do a lot of things.

I'm not a Pervert wanting to look at her Tits. but what if it's Her only option?

Theres only two choices I can see At the moment: Pornstar and Parents.

I hope she picks the Second. but that much money...It's alluring
 
Garland said:
Sad but true...but..what choice dose she have?

Well she should have thought of that before she mudered or abandoned her child I guess. I mean its not like she can't get a job, illegal immagrants do it all of the time.


And anyway. why would she work at a job where Everyone might look down upon her? In Hustler. She gets money and is able to live. Sure she might be looked down upon. But it's just a few naked photoshoots. It isn't like she's going to a job sitting at a Desk as people around her try and ruin her life.

Honestly I am not really concerned about her living at this point, just as she seemed not concerned about her child.


If you were in this situation. what would you pick?

I would not place myself in the situation, and if I did then I would probably leave the country.
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This is exactly what I said would happen to her in the other thread. She will be exploited, her name will be further tarnished, and her life will be in shambles.

Accepting the offer is a double-edged sword. The media will have a field day if she does. If she ever has children again, this is something she will not want them to see. I'm sure Hustler is making the offer for the two-pronged effect of exploiting her case for profit and publicity as well as shaming her even further. They're obviously not doing this with her interests in mind, they know full well that her reputation will only be lowered if she takes it.
 
Tmoo said:
This is exactly what I said would happen to her in the other thread. She will be exploited, her name will be further tarnished, and her life will be in shambles.

Accepting the offer is a double-edged sword. The media will have a field day if she does. If she ever has children again, this is something she will not want them to see. I'm sure Hustler is making the offer for the two-pronged effect of exploiting her case for profit and publicity as well as shaming her even further. They're obviously not doing this with her interests in mind, they know full well that her reputation will only be lowered if she takes it.
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For some reason though I do not take this woman seriously when she says she wants another kid for severel reasons. The most obvious IMO I think she murdered her first. However she also did not seem very broken up about the fact that her child went missing because she didn't look for it or go to the authorities. Also she was at parties and getting tatoo's, and almost every picture I have seen from her she looks fake as hell, and smiling. Not to mention she is not really THAT young .

If I were to guess I would think she did not want the first kid and tried to dispose of it, and definately does not want a second kid (no matter what bs she states). She is just trying to grab sympathy.
 
I'm not sure that her posing naked for Hustler makes her a pornstar. Jenna Jameson is a pornstar, she has sex with people for money infront of a camera. Or did, she's probably a little old for that, and everyone knows the older you get the more perverted things you have to do.
And I don't think she's really going to suffer a loss of social status, most people already think she's a murderer. Being a pornstar hardly seems a step down, although that's probably a sign of the decline in moral standards. Infinite.
Also pornstars are celebrities now, it's quite a good job too. Lots of money; they're certainly better liked than Lawyers or Politicians or Bankers etc etc.
 
Roland_Deschain said:
Well she should have thought of that before she mudered or abandoned her child I guess. I mean its not like she can't get a job, illegal immagrants do it all of the time.
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Yeah, she could either A) pick fruit for 14 hours a day and get $50 (maybe) or B) have sex on camera for an hour and make $500-$1000. I mean I don't work for NASA or anything, but I can do that math.

Roland said:
Honestly I am not really concerned about her living at this point, just as she seemed not concerned about her child.
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You seem to be very concerned about her moral standards, however.
 
To be fair, I think the readers who see her nude won't be interested in her past history, just whether or not she looks good nude. (I don't actually have a CLUE what she looks like, she could be a right minger for all I know)

If I were her, I wouldn't do it, and not draw any more attention to myself so that one day maybe the media would leave me alone and let me rebuild my life, since I don't think she should have gotten all the attention in the first place. The media will have a field day reporting on how the 'child murderer' got a job posing nude and will get paid a shedload for it, where's the justice etc etc. I mean come on, she wasn't convicted for it so stop acting like she was!

It's her choice though, no doubt she's been offered it because someone's seen her on the news, but that's just how it goes.
 
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