72-YEAR-OLD woman loves her...Grandson?

[The Witch]

A 72-YEAR-OLD granny is having an incestuous affair with her own GRANDSON — and the pair are set to have a BABY.
Grey-haired Pearl Carter has shocked family and friends after beginning a bizarre relationship with her 26-year-old grandchild Phil Bailey.

Pearl, from Indiana, US, is now using her pension to pay $54,000 (£35,000) to a surrogate mother so they can have a child, say reports in New Idea magazine in New Zealand.

Pearl said: "I'm not interested in anyone else's opinion. I am in love with Phil and he's in love with me. Soon I'll be holding my son or daughter in my arms and Phil will be the proud dad."

Phil is the son of Pearl's daughter Lynette Bailey — who the pensioner put up for adoption when she was just 18.

When Lynette died, Phil tracked down his long lost gran — 46 years his senior — and they started their strange relationship.

Pearl added: "From the first moment that I saw him, I knew we would never have a grandmother-grandson relationship. For the first time in years I felt sexually alive."

The pair spent their first week together shopping, bowling and eating out. During the second week, giggly on wine after a night out, Pearl decided she wasn't going to deny her feelings anymore.

Pearl said: "I called Phil into my bedroom, sat him on the bed, and then I leant over and kissed him.

"I expected rejection but instead he kissed me back."

Phil said he had the same feelings towards Pearl.

He revealed: "I wanted to kiss her there and then. My feelings were overwhelming.

"I love Pearl with all my heart. I've always been attracted to older women and I think Pearl is gorgeous. Now I'm going to be a dad and I can't wait.

"Yes, we get laughed at and bullied when we go out and kiss in public but we don't care. You can't help who you fall for."

The pair have asked 30-year-old Roxanne Campbell to carry their child.

Pearl said: "I am finally going to be a mum and not forced to give up my child. Phil's going to be a great dad. I never in a million years thought at 72 I'd be 'pregnant' and in love with my grandson.

"I make no apologies and I believe God's given me a second chance."

Pearl says the relationship is not wrong after a friend told her about Genetic Sexual Attraction (GSA) syndrome, which occurs when close relatives meet as adults and find they are attracted to each other.

She said: "I could now understand my feelings and realise they weren't wrong."

Pearl was 18 when she fell pregnant with daughter Lynette. She was living with her Catholic parents in Indiana and they insisted she give the baby away.

They organised a private adoption and Pearl never saw her baby girl again.

Pearl went on to marry but she never had any more children. Instead she searched for her lost daughter until finally giving up hope 15 years ago.

Phil met Pearl for the first time in 2006 after tracking her down when Lynette died from brain cancer.

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Okay, this is too freaking weird. And no, she is not a "Dilf"

 

[SapphireStar]

Ive read some similar cases in which a child has been put up for adoption, been found years later by the family and feel a love for a family member, be it a grandmother, father or mother. I guess its their business. Yes it freaks me out, but if these 2 people want to be together, then so be it. Its different in a way cause they werent in each others lifes, which would have mde it more disturbing.

 

[The Witch]

Yea, that's a good point. But it's still incest. >.<

 

[moogling]

TBH, I don't have any problem with this. They're free to do what they please, as long as they're living in a state where incest isn't illegal. The only thing that's "disgusting" about it to me is that they are related.

Like Sapphire said, it would have been even more disturbing if he had grown up with her acting as a grandmotherly figure. In this case, they're just as capable of falling in love with each other as any other two people.

I've got to mention though, that if I were his mom in this situation... I just couldn't even imagine it.

 

[Rydia]

Question, who's egg are they using? If they are using the Grandmother's, that child will have an increased risk for problems after birth. (MR, deformities, mental disbility) due to the mother's age and due to that they are related.

But if the 30 year old is carrying it then it'd be different. Lol that's the only issue that I would really have with this.

 

[Kandy-Sugar]

Pearl says the relationship is not wrong after a friend told her about Genetic Sexual Attraction (GSA) syndrome, which occurs when close relatives meet as adults and find they are attracted to each other.

She said: "I could now understand my feelings and realise they weren't wrong."

I have to disagree. I think that Genetic Sexual Attraction is a load of bull and it's just sick people using it as an excuse to do the wrong thing.

It's none of my business but I still think it's disgusting and that both the grandson and grandmother are very selfish.

That child is going to get picked on when he/she goes to school and the grandmother won't be around for very long to even see her child grow up.

It's not fair on their child.

Seriously, out of all the people in the world they had to get with each other? It's just ridiculous in my opinion.

Might just move this over to the debate section.

[Moved to the Sleeping Forest]

 

[Madaraki]

To be honest, I spent less time wondering about my feelings on this issue than I did trying to figure out how his son would relate to him in terms of being the grandmother's son.

Near as I can tell; his son is his uncle.

I think.

I'm a bit too put into a state of W-T-F-Mate? to really try and figure out the rest of it. Technically this has absolutely no impact on me, but there's just something in this story that makes me want to wash my eyes out with lysol.

 

[GBJoker]

First, it's not DILF. It's GILF.

Second, I wouldn't care even the slightest bit if they weren't bringing a bloody kid into the world. That's just asshole-ish. Not too mention, when the kid gets to puberty+ and can actually start asking questions about mom, the kid's stuck with a single father most likely, and has to explain a real crappy situation. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the kid ends up having a relationship with his/her kids, after running away from home.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Hmmmmm.....um

IS this excusable because of the generational difference?
This sounds like a perfect Springer Episode lol I gotta say this is a surprise you guys are all being so liberal about this situation, with "If they're Happy" and the "It dont bother me" lines.

How can I say this, you saying you would do the same thing if it made you "happy"?
Some things are just wrong IMO, blood lines are kept apart for a reason, In nature animals dont mate with each other(normally) to produce offspring, now with humans being removed from the natural order and being free to make such choices just tells me these people are not mentally balanced.

Just because something makes you happy does not make it right.

Who are they hurting is a fair question, and is best left up to the individual.

 

[M1ghty Mous3]

Extremely odd i say. I'm not into 72 yr olds, but hey, if they love each other, whose to say their wrong. And before some says it's because their related, it'd be the same idea as saying 2 men or 2 women can't be in love happily. While I'm exactly all for the idea of it, I'm not entriely opposed to it either.

People are odd beings, let them be and all will go according to plan. And PLEASE, no refrences to murders or any other person who was a general threat to the populous. I'd expect you to be more knowledgeable then that.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Who mentioned murder?

This is no where the same as murder this is closer to Rape and peadophelia and other nasty things.....but still along way removed Because in effect they are both consenting to it

Its not a bad thing, at its core argument its just out of the ordinary and is not with in the natural laws miosis and sexual reproduction LOL certainly not as bad as murder

Because of its sexual nature, and even that is a reach, it does fall in the Sexual crimes Act/s of many countries.

 

[Gingerbread Lesbian]

It's none of my business but I still think it's disgusting and that both the grandson and grandmother are very selfish.

That child is going to get picked on when he/she goes to school and the grandmother won't be around for very long to even see her child grow up.

This. There are several problems to this whole weird as hell relationship. The child will lose its mother before it even hits a ripe age, therefore, it won't have a mother. No one knows if the father will be able to raise a child as a single parent and what environment it'll be brought up in. The child will get bullied. Fact. Life's shit like that. It's not normal to have a great grandmother as your actual mother, it's abnormal and the child will be discriminated against. The fact it's incest also means you simply cannot get away from the fact there's a high chance the child will be handicapped, it's not fair on the child in the slightest. They should not be allowed to have a child, as Kandy said, it's nothing short of selfishness.

 

[M1ghty Mous3]

Who mentioned murder?

This is no where the same as murder this is closer to Rape and peadophelia and other nasty things.....but still along way removed Because in effect they are both consenting to it

Its not a bad thing, at its core argument its just out of the ordinary and is not with in the natural laws miosis and sexual reproduction LOL certainly not as bad as murder

Because of its sexual nature, and even that is a reach, it does fall in the Sexual crimes Act/s of many countries.

I was referring ot the "let people be" thing. Those who murder should obviously not be left alone.

 

[Ewan]

It's none of my business but I still think it's disgusting and that both the grandson and grandmother are very selfish.

That child is going to get picked on when he/she goes to school and the grandmother won't be around for very long to even see her child grow up.

The child will lose its mother before it even hits a ripe age, therefore, it won't have a mother. No one knows if the father will be able to raise a child as a single parent and what environment it'll be brought up in.

I agree that it may be unfair on the child, seeing as there is a high risk of genetic problems due to the mother and father being related. There is evidence to support that it will happen and knowingly risking the child's life in this way is questionable.

But Hal/Bjork brought up a good point in the Morgan Freeman thread a while back. Would either of you call soldiers selfish for having children seeing as that there is a high probability that they may die during war? Those families are likely to end up in the same situation as this one i.e. one of the parents dying and leaving the children without one of their parents.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Thats not the same thing.

The only parallel there is death.

Soldiers sacrifice themselves for selfless motivation and a deep seeded belief in there convictions that they are willing to give there lives for there county/ conviction, this is no where near the same as some freaks having an incestuous relationship.

Thats a bad analogy.

 

[Marquis of Granby]

firstly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menopause

its highly unlikely that a 72 year old will have any eggs so theyre probably using the surrogate's eggs. Also, legally this isnt incest since the lad's mother was adopted. Presumably the groovy granny's name isnt on the birth certificate at all. its strange but i imagine its not illegal. i think theyre trying to sensationalise it in the article tbh, it would be all the same if phil enjoyed pumping a bag of frail old bones and just happened to meet her, commence relationship, few years down the line (if pearl made it) they find out theyre related.

the woman is 72, she's getting her hole from someone who isnt legally her grandson, their baby wont be deformed, she'll be lucky to make it to 2015. there's plenty of more fucked up things in the world

 

[Ewan]

Thats not the same thing.

The only parallel there is death.

Soldiers sacrifice themselves for selfless motivation and a deep seeded belief in there convictions that they are willing to give there lives for there county/ conviction, this is no where near the same as some freaks having an incestuous relationship.

Thats a bad analogy.

Your reasons seem to be completely arbitrary. I don't see how the 'honour' you seem to see a soldier's death should have any effect on the reasoning. People object because the child will be without a parent, not because the said parent isn't sacrificing themselves etc.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

This is not about the supposed honor of a soldiers death!

Its about they way you compared the 2 situations. 1 is about the knowingly and selfishly risking the childs life and putting it at risk of said genetic mutations, which by itself is just wrong they should not be aloud to do it

While the other is not even a comparison of situations, its a poor analogy, dying is part of soldering and this older ladies future passing while tragic, is a fact of life they are as l stated only connected by death the path they take to get there is completely different.

Sorry if this got personal, but its just the way it goes sometimes

 

[Ewan]

I agree on the issue of the genetic mutations. I said that in my original post.

But I don't see how the path they got to death should have any bearing on whether it's unfair or not when that said path is not being objected. Not just the people on this forum, people I know IRL only seem to object to the outcome and that's why I bring up soldiers.

And don't worry. I didn't take it personally. It's just a forum.

EDIT: That may not apply to you of course. If the path they take matters to you, then fair enough.

Also, like Jimmeh said, she's not likely to have a baby i.e. menopause.

 

[GalaxyFlare]

Well if we agree what are we arguing for

About the supposed genetic mutations should they be aloud to so recklessly risk the unborn childs life like that you would think it would be against the law and stopped at some rate?

Does'nt child Services in the states have a say or do they have to wait for the child to be born? at the very least some kind of government intervention maybe?

All of this mute point now Since Jim reminded me they are not related lol