Wada: Square Enix to “explore” an FFVII remake [3/23]

[Abstract Debauchery]

They left it wide open so they can make another crappy FFVII game that they can leave wide open.

They're going to keep churning out bad spin-offs and sequels for years. They should stop... Seriously...

 

[Nocturne]

eh, I liked the story of Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core was a good part of it too. Truthfully, they only need to do one more game to finish it.

 

[Serah]

I would agree with you, and I know the remake doesnt help, but I wish they would finish making the compilation of FFVII before they make any more FFXIII sequels. Seriously, with Dirge, they left it wide open with no resolution.

No, I sorry, but I disagree with you. They need to leave FFVII alone for awhile and give people a break from it before they end up ruining FFVII completely. I used to be a fan, but with how much they rammed it down our throats, I'm sick of it. I can't stand hearing about it or seeing it. Also, FF Versus XIII isn't an FFXIII sequel, just for the record. It's basically light versus dark is what they said in the past. I want to see that and Agito done before they go making anymore FFVII spin-offs. I'd rather see an FFXIII-2 made than I would anything FFVII at this point.

 

[Linnaete]

Though the secret Dirge of Cerberus is rather ambiguous, I don't think another game to add onto the end is necessary. I mean - a simple novel can finish things off. It doesn't have to be a game. If there are gaps, another kind of medium can fill it in and make things clearer.

That would save SE the unnecessary effort in making another spinoff and possibly also a remake of the original game itself to do this. If SE are to remake FFVII in 3D, it would take a long time with a lot of resources. Time, resources and money that I think could be used for future games.

The only logical reason why a remake may be a good idea (other than the demands of the game's fans), is that it may be quick money. Remake it - you're guaranteed to get a huge profit from it just because it's Final Fantasy VII.

 

[Nocturne]

No, I sorry, but I disagree with you. They need to leave FFVII alone for awhile and give people a break from it before they end up ruining FFVII completely. I used to be a fan, but with how much they rammed it down our throats, I'm sick of it. I can't stand hearing about it or seeing it. Also, FF Versus XIII isn't an FFXIII sequel, just for the record. It's basically light versus dark is what they said in the past. I want to see that and Agito done before they go making anymore FFVII spin-offs. I'd rather see an FFXIII-2 made than I would anything FFVII at this point.

I know Versus XIII isnt, but there was talk of a direct sequel to FFXIII. If people want to talk milking, I would say that is. Alot of people said it ends without needing another game (which is all I want to know because I havent gotten to touch it yet.)

 

[Serah]

I know Versus XIII isnt, but there was talk of a direct sequel to FFXIII. If people want to talk milking, I would say that is. Alot of people said it ends without needing another game (which is all I want to know because I havent gotten to touch it yet.)

How is a direct sequel to FFXIII milking it? I would say FFVII: Dirge of Cerberus, FFVII: Before Crisis, FFVII: Crisis Core and FFVII: Advent Children, FFVII: Advent Children Complete along with an anime of FFVII: The Last Order and the whole entire novel series On the Way To a Smile as well as ALL the FFVII merchandise they sell is more milking a video game than anything. Have you even finished FFXIII yet? No, you haven't, so how do you know they didn't leave the ending with a cliffhanger and a direct sequel may very well be needed? How is ONE sequel to a video game milking it compared to all that FFVII shit I just listed above? I guess you would say they milked FFX since they made a FFX-2 huh? That's hypocritical. I'm sorry.

 

[Nocturne]

How is a direct sequel to FFXIII milking it? I would say FFVII: Dirge of Cerberus, FFVII: Before Crisis, FFVII: Crisis Core and FFVII: Advent Children, FFVII: Advent Children Complete along with an anime of FFVII: The Last Order and the whole entire novel series On the Way To a Smile as well as ALL the FFVII merchandise they sell is more milking a video game than anything. Have you even finished FFXIII yet? No, you haven't, so how do you know they didn't leave the ending with a cliffhanger and a direct sequel may very well be needed? How is ONE sequel to a video game milking it compared to all that FFVII shit I just listed above? I guess you would say they milked FFX since they made a FFX-2 huh? That's hypocritical. I'm sorry.

I dont think it's hypocritical. How long did they wait until they decided to do a compilation of FFVII, you know, that the FANS wanted anyways. People bought the games, liked some and didnt like some.

FFXIII JUST came out and they are already talking of doing direct sequels to it just because they want money from it. No one asked for it, in fact most people want them to finish Versus and Agito.

Either way, Id buy it. I love the FF series. There really hasnt been one I didnt like storywise (except maybe X-2, 5 or 3, but I still liked them.) Personally, even though I said it above, I dont even think they are milking the games. If they are good, Im going to buy and play them.

 

[Serah]

Before Advent Children ever came out, there was an anime of FFVII: The Last Order. Then, Advent Children comes out. After that you get Dirge of Cerberus, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, On the Way to a Smile which has Case of Tifa, Case of Denzel, Case of Barret, Case of the Lifestream white (Aerith's story) and Case of the Lifestream black (Sephiroth's story), then the little short anime about Denzel himself, along with FFVII: Advent Children complete, not to mention (as I said before) all the merchandise such as figures for each individual game stated above, clothing, jewelry, costumes, soda cans with the characters on them that came with little figures, etc... and you're telling me that that's not milking it?

You must really be an obsessive fanboy to blatantly ignore the simple fact that everything I just mentioned IS milking it because that's exactly what they want...money. I also don't understand how you can say "OH THEY MADE IT BECAUSE THE FANS WANTED IT!" when it comes to FFVII. Then when a potential sequel of FFXIII is mentioned ONE TIME you accuse them of only wanting money. I'm sorry, sir, but yes you are being hypocritical.

edit: And just for the record, they said they wanted to see exactly how many fans enjoyed FFXIII and if they DID, then it's possible there could eventually be an FFXIII-2. How is that any different from all the shit of FFVII they're spewing? It's not.

 

[Nocturne]

Either way, just because a company wants money doesnt mean they are milking something. If the products they are putting out are of high quality, then how can that be seen as a bad thing? Sure I could see if everything they put out was half assed, low quality garbage, but that is not what they have done.

Milking, at least in my eyes, involves putting something out there for the sake of it, knowing it would sell, while putting little to no effort into the product.

 

[The Witch]

So,Motomu Toriyama said the game he wants to remake is VII?
http://kotaku.com/5497116/ffxiii-director-wants-to-remake-final-fantasy-vii


Sweet! I mean, not sweet? Serah, I see your point. SE has been Milky money out of VII, but to some fans a remake would be cool.

Especially if you can't take the game seriously because of it's hourglass arms.

Ugh, I'm still not sure if I want a remake or not... I'm undecided.

Either way, just because a company wants money doesnt mean they are milking something. If the products they are putting out are of high quality, then how can that be seen as a bad thing? Sure I could see if everything they put out was half assed, low quality garbage, but that is not what they have done.

Milking, at least in my eyes, involves putting something out there for the sake of it, knowing it would sell, while putting little to no effort into the product.

I agree to that, though.

 

[Serah]

Milking, at least in my eyes, involves putting something out there for the sake of it, knowing it would sell, while putting little to no effort into the product.

Are you serious? That's exactly what I've been trying to point out here. Have you seen some of the merchandise? It's outrageously expensive but the quality is so pathetically cheap that people would be insane to blow their money on it. Dirge of Cerberus? I was highly disappointed in the story of that game. It was weak and not very well thought out at all. Same with Advent Children. They could've done a hell of a lot better than that. It's like they threw some random plotline that Cloud was sick and dying from some weird disease that we don't know where it came from and so are other people. Hell at the end of FFVII, I thought that humanity had been wiped out, then come up with that rubbish? It was just pretty graphics and that's it. That's my point. They KNOW it'll sell because let's be honest here, it's FFVII crap. Most of the stuff has little to no effort put into it.

 

[The Witch]

I think it's opinion whether or not something was bad, though... I personally thought everyone died in VII to. But, AC's storyline was good. Rushed. But good.

AC took like 5-6 years to make, that took a lot of effort.

 

[Serah]

Yeah, the graphics took that long to make, but not the storyline. I doubt it could take anybody to come up with a storyline that was truly that poor in 5-6 years. I'm sorry, but I just don't see what's so fabulous about this game and all of it's spin-offs, etc...*shrug* I can't see how making a sequel to FFXIII in a few years is milking it, but yet everything I just listed above is not milking FFVII. It sounds like hypocritical fanboyism to me.

 

[Nocturne]

Most of the merchandise I have (IE. the play arts line of figures) are really high quality. As well as some of the statues ect. The jewelry, I can agree on with you if you are referring to that.

Dirge of Cerberus to me, was fine story wise. That's more opinion based than anything. Same with Advent Children. Especially after Complete, I felt it was good. There is only so much you can do in two hours of movie compared to a 50-60 hour game. And just to contrast, I never once thought humanity was wiped out at the end of FFVII considering most of the damage seemed to be done to Midgar after the whole meteor incident.

 

[Stoic Hero]

Crisis Core is my favorite PSP game. I know that it's my opinion, but understand that that's why I can't agree with you when you say they're milking Final Fantasy VII. I also enjoyed Advent Children so much to purchase Advent Children Complete the day it came out. I thought it was very well done, the animations were good, the dialogue was good enough, and the action was great. Dirge of Cerberus wasn't as good as the other offerings, but I enjoyed the story. I don't think that they're milking VII if they try to do different things with it. You know what milking is? Porting. Ocarina of Time is an example of a game that has been ported and milked. I love that game though, but that isn't the point. It's been milked. The way I see it, they've done something different with each installment. Crisis Core was a unique action/adventure game for the PSP. Square could have made a lot more money if they'd made a "Sequel" or something to VII on the PS3/360, but they didn't. They put it on the PSP, which is the lowest selling handheld. They aren't milking it, in my opinion. It's just fan service, which I'm glad they're doing.

 

[hidachi4]

Serah,

I'm willing to bet FF X-2 has made more money than the FF VII spin-offs and AC combined. Why? Because it was developed for a much more lucrative system, and it was an actual sequel and not some random 1st person shooter. Your definition of "milking" confuses me, because you're basing it on # of titles rather than money made. How much money do you think Crisis Core would have made for the PS2? How about a FFVII sequel? It seems to me they are doing a pretty terrible job of milking it if that is their only intention.