To all men: What do you actually think of women?

That fact is your talking about treating 'woman'. It's not woman your treating it's the individual. Do you like to be treated the same way as your dad , George Bush, David Beckham or the Dali Lama, no because your not the same. Yes you are all 'men' but that difines you down to physical and biological atributed only. Everybody has their preferances.
Treat the Indiviual not the woman.
 
I would like to formally apologize for my posts in this thread. Upon re-reading, over and over and over again, in order to remove my own bias from what I wrote, I see now that I did write things in a way that are sexist. I'm not saying that I have sexist opinions, but the way I wrote my posts, I can see how you interpreted them to say: "Get back in the kitchen and cook me my dinner!".

Everyone time I reach for the keys in order to explain myself I feel at a loss. For whatever reason, I can't find a better way to explain my thoughts. This is a little infuriating for me as, while I don't always explain myself as well as I would like, I usually at least can find a way to eventually make the words fit the thoughts. However, I just can't now for some reason.

I'm not trying to cop out on my own opinions either. I will never do that. I believe what I believe and I could care less that some people on the internet don't like what I have to say. Also, I have no problems with changing my opinions on topics. That is why I post in the debate forums. Debating is all about swaying other people's opinions. This isn't that case either. I am just incapable of properly voicing my opinion on this matter.

I'm not afraid to say that I'm wrong, and in this case, I am wrong. My apologies ladies. I never meant to offend. From now on, I'll try and take a little more care on making sure that my words match my thoughts.
 
I believe what I believe and I could care less that some people on the internet don't like what I have to say.

Really? Seemed to me that given how lengthy your rants in topics are, even about trivial things such as TVs, you care quite alot. And if you didn't care that people dislike what you have to say, why did you write that apology? :monster:

Anyway, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I like women better. I get along with them better and they make for better friends. Guys = people I hang out/talk with when bored. Women = people I actually like talking with.

And as for the current stereotypes of women, such as they're bad drivers, well, it's completely wrong. Teenagers (both sexes) are horrid drivers, as are old people (both sexes). And there's something rather...scary...I've noticed about male drivers around here (including my dad, and it seems to be limited to men with trucks too): they like to drive right down the middle of the road if nobody else is on the road. It's a bit nerve-racking to turn on a street and see a big Ford barreling down the middle of the road. I always make sure to give the drivers nasty looks and flip them off when I pass them, and I've never noticed a woman at the wheel in any of those instances.
 

whats being blonde got to do with the price of chips?
In my line of work the majority of car accidents come threw men, yes maybe its because they ARE more aggressive etc but the fact of the matter is they still cause more accidents, regardless of the reasons behind it.
I can't drive for toffee but Ill guarantee that suzy perry can handle a motorbike better than most men, and that german bird who knows the Nurburgring like the back of her hand would no doubt out drive you. Jodie Kidd, who incidentally is a blonde, was at the top of the list on 'star in a reasonably priced car' on top gear
 
Really? Seemed to me that given how lengthy your rants in topics are, even about trivial things such as TVs, you care quite alot. And if you didn't care that people dislike what you have to say, why did you write that apology?

I write long "rants" because I have a lot to say. I don't really care what people think about them. I would prefer that people like and/or agree with them, but at the end of the night, I'm not exactly going to lose any sleep over it.

I wrote the apology because what I said, or rather, the way I said it, was wrong. I'm not trying to get people to like me, but I don't think that just because I don't care if someone likes me or not, I shouldn't apologize when I insult someone, or an entire gender in this case.
 

And just what the hell do you mean by this kind of post? That right there is another form of acting sexist. You're practically shoving in our faces that men are better drivers than women. That is simply NOT true. Some women are better drivers than men and some men are better drivers than women. As for being blonde...that has absolutely nothing to do with it either. Of course people use the term "a blonde" because they see a female who might not have the common sense, but there are plenty of men out there who lack it as well. They just aren't referred to as "a blonde" like women are. That's a nasty, cruel and sexist statement and being blonde doesn't have a fucking thing to do with it.

Omni, I greatly appreciate your apology and I'm sure the other women here do as well. Not a lot of people like to just step up and admit when they are wrong. I apologize that I came off like such a bitch and got so upset, but I'm glad you can see where we're coming from here. Again, thank you for your apology. Dazz? You really should watch what you're saying.
 
I don't get what Dazz is saying. Is he indicating that natural blondes are bad drivers, people who dye their hair blonde are bad drivers, or anyone with blonde hair in general is a bad driver? lol.
Plus you don't see a lot of "what you would call blonde" guys, because not too many guys dye their hair like women do; you just don't see many men running to hair salons to get a bleach job. (I think that's safe to say in this thread).

Besides, I'm naturally a rather dark haired brunette, and I can't drive for squat.

I don't think that being a male or female has to do with your chances of being in or causing a car accident. I think that depends on how impatient and generally stupid you are. =\
 
I'm typically rather careful when I drive. However, I don't think that stereotypes really cement whether one person is better than another... It's their personality and/or intelligence that decides that in my book. Even then, i strive to treat people equally.
 
I don't get what Dazz is saying. Is he indicating that natural blondes are bad drivers, people who dye their hair blonde are bad drivers, or anyone with blonde hair in general is a bad driver? lol.
Plus you don't see a lot of "what you would call blonde" guys, because not too many guys dye their hair like women do; you just don't see many men running to hair salons to get a bleach job. (I think that's safe to say in this thread).

Looks to me like he means the stereotypical "dumb blonde", which I agree is rather sexist. And yes, it's safe to say most men don't run to the salon to get bleached hair (thank god, I remember that old trend of blonde highlights and it was terrible).

I don't think that being a male or female has to do with your chances of being in or causing a car accident. I think that depends on how impatient and generally stupid you are. =\
Pretty much. The ability to drive isn't affected by gender or hair color, it all comes down to how patient you are, how good your reflexes are (thus why old people of both genders are horrid drivers), and how long you've been driving for (thus why teenagers of both genders suck).
 

Uh wow, stereotyping much? Actually, mothers tend to be careful drivers because they do not want to put the risk of having their children in danger. Women tend to drive more defensively than males.

Oh gosh! Right, I wonder why insurance rates are so high for males!? So you're saying men are less stupid about driving? Men are aggressive. Think about it? Why do men cause more accidents? I don't know, maybe because they're stupid enough to make a childish decision because they're aggressive? A lot of accidents happen not because you're blonde, or you're a woman, it's because of stupid men who tend to pick on each other. Men are more likely to get pissed, take out a gun, and shoot the other person. Men are stupid enough to race each other. Yeah, it happens, and that's how many major car accidents happen, because of aggressive men. Sure, women can be aggressive drivers but most of them won't risk themselves in such a dangerous situation.
 
Uh wow, stereoyping much?
My statement before just went on about not grouping together all woamn as one...please read it before the one you just quoted. anyway....

Actually, mothers tend to be careful drivers because they do not want to put the risk of having their children in danger.
Yes I agree, but i didn't say anything about mothers. Although not all mothers are the same some are idiots and would do so.

Women tend to drive more defensively than males.
Yes hence men are more aggressive

Oh gosh! Right, I wonder why insurance rates are so high for males!? So you're saying men are less stupid about driving?
I didn't say woman were more stupid i said blondes were more stupid not all woman, and no just because your hair is blonde makes you stupid i meant more in terms of the phrase 'blonde' meaning stupid female doing her make up in the mirror while driving. NOT ALL WOMAN! Yes the insurance rates are high because more crashes are caused by males which i would guess is due to the fact males are generally more aggressive drivers.

Men are aggressive.
yes they are

Think about it? Why do men cause more accidents? I don't know, maybe because they're stupid enough to make a childish decision because they're aggressive?
Again yes.

A lot of accidents happen not because you're blonde, or you're a woman, it's because of stupid men who tend to pick on each other.
So your saying its men who cause acciadents. What if two females crash into each other. Actually you'll find 'F***ing woman' a phrase often used by male drivers who get annoyed by those 'blondes' or a woman being stupid on the road(Not that i'm saying all woman are stupid), so men don't pick on each other they tend to see a female and say 'woman drivers tch'.(which I would like to point out i do not but it does happen)

Men are more likely to get pissed, take out a gun, and shoot the other person.
Bit random but OK i would guess that stats would likely prove that, and from what i see in papers and on the news it does generally tend to be males.

Men are stupid enough to race each other. Yeah, it happens, and that's how many major car accidents happen.
In My city there are as many, possibly more, woman (Mostly teens though so girls if you prefer) who own moded cars with body kits and new alloys etc who often meet at the hotspots to race and show of their cars. As for the whole two guys stop at traffic lights look at each other rev their engines and then fly down the road when the lights go green....you watch to much TV.

Sure, women can be aggressive drivers but most of them won't risk themselves in such a dangerous situation.
As you say
Uh wow, stereoyping much?

Most people are just trying to get to work or trying to get home or do the shopping or whatnot. How they get there is on how the individual drives not on how that sex drive. One of my friends drives like an idiot, another is a boy racer and I know that the majority of male drivers I know are careful drivers who abide by the laws of the road and never put other road users and pedestrians in danger and it is the exact same way with females, one girl is is a racer and another is just an idiot who can't drive (She doesn't understand roundabouts at all yet passed her test), but again most are great drivers and I would be happy for them to drive me somehwhere.
Also you said i stereotyped much. You practically a stereotype to argue mine or what you thought I was stereotyping. There are more than two differant kinds of people on this earth. not just male and female.
 
I didn't say woman were more stupid i said blondes were more stupid not all woman, and no just because your hair is blonde makes you stupid i meant more in terms of the phrase 'blonde' meaning stupid female doing her make up in the mirror while driving. NOT ALL WOMAN! Yes the insurance rates are high because more crashes are caused by males which i would guess is due to the fact males are generally more aggressive drivers.

Yeah, um, you fail to realize that "blonde" is a sexist stereotype, that's all there is to it. Instead of just looking at the individual woman and calling her an idiot like you would a male, you're calling her a dumb blonde which lumps her into the stereotype (which is only limited to women, if you hadn't noticed). Someone else mentioned it in this thread, but you don't see "dumb blonde" refer to males, it's an exclusive term meant to belittle women. That makes it sexist. It's the exact same as racist terms, if you use a term that is exclusively used for one group, then GUESS WUT, it's racist or sexist.

So your saying its men who cause acciadents. What if two females crash into each other. Actually you'll find 'F***ing woman' a phrase often used by male drivers who get annoyed by those 'blondes' or a woman being stupid on the road(Not that i'm saying all woman are stupid), so men don't pick on each other they tend to see a female and say 'woman drivers tch'.(which I would like to point out i do not but it does happen)

When I drive, I make no distinction between the sex of the idiot driver, so I always call everyone the same things, like "cockmunch" and such. Men don't pick on each other because most of their peers tend to drive in the same way (aggressive), so in their eyes there is nothing wrong with their driving.

In My city there are as many, possibly more, woman (Mostly teens though so girls if you prefer) who own moded cars with body kits and new alloys etc who often meet at the hotspots to race and show of their cars. As for the whole two guys stop at traffic lights look at each other rev their engines and then fly down the road when the lights go green....you watch to much TV.

Orly nao? You live in a pretty effin' weird city then. Around here I haven't seen any women involved in that stuff. Not once at any of my jobs or at school have I had a chick come up to me and start babbling on about her modded car and the prize money she'd won, it's always the males. That's because, ZOMG GUESS WUT, women generally don't drive as risky. If what you say is actually true, then the girls you know are a minority among women drivers.

There are more than two differant kinds of people on this earth. not just male and female.

According to what you've said in your past two posts, there are three types: men, women, and blonde women. Amirite?
 
My statement before just went on about not grouping together all woamn as one...please read it before the one you just quoted. anyway....

Umm, you did stereotype. You should have said:

Anyway as for drivers i have noticed personally that woman are worse drivers...
That's stereotyping right there. There is no denying that.
Yes I agree, but i didn't say anything about mothers. Although not all mothers are the same some are idiots and would do so.
Reason why I said mothers because they're women, duh. You're last post was about women and blondes who are bad drivers.

I didn't say woman were more stupid i said blondes were more stupid not all woman, and no just because your hair is blonde makes you stupid i meant more in terms of the phrase 'blonde' meaning stupid female doing her make up in the mirror while driving. NOT ALL WOMAN! Yes the insurance rates are high because more crashes are caused by males which i would guess is due to the fact males are generally more aggressive drivers.
There you go, stereotyping again. You just said again blonds are stupid drivers. There is no gene that determines you're going to become a bad driver. Anyone could be a bad driver. I said males are worst drivers because they can easily stress out and start to drive dangerously.

So your saying its men who cause acciadents. What if two females crash into each other. Actually you'll find 'F***ing woman' a phrase often used by male drivers who get annoyed by those 'blondes' or a woman being stupid on the road(Not that i'm saying all woman are stupid), so men don't pick on each other they tend to see a female and say 'woman drivers tch'.(which I would like to point out i do not but it does happen)
Once again, saying 'Fucking women' is just stereotyping. Of course it's used my male drivers because males tend to be more stubborn and say they're right.

In My city there are as many, possibly more, woman (Mostly teens though so girls if you prefer) who own moded cars with body kits and new alloys etc who often meet at the hotspots to race and show of their cars. As for the whole two guys stop at traffic lights look at each other rev their engines and then fly down the road when the lights go green....you watch to much TV.
Umm, no actually, yet you're assuming stuff about me. I don't actually watch television by the way. I've seen it happen often where males randomly start racing each other. Yes, there have been times where I was at a stop light, and the cars in front of me where males insides about to race each other.

You were basically saying females and blondes are bad drivers. I went against your stereotype and saying males BY STATISTICS get into car accidents. You argument about women being worst drives contracted that statement.
 
The only thing I hate is when a certain idiot (whether is male or female) is driving while talking through a cellphone. Or when some people put on some make up while driving! Jesus....

Anyway, both male and female can be equally bad at most of the things...so meh....
 
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT BLONES ARE NOT ALL WOMAN!!!!!! Ok Vengefulronin yes its true about the phrase 'blonde' being a stereotype but these days when you say somebody is blonde it is used as either stupid or hairolour and you should be able to tell the differance with context.
But not of all woman, it was again me who said it earlier on. But again being blonde does not mean being a woman !!!BLONDE DOES NOT MEAN WOMAN!!! stop talking about me saying that. and i am sorry if i implied that all females who are blonde are stupid because i do not beleive that. ne of the smartest girls who i went to school with was blonde(and one of the smartest in the my entire year before anyone says that i ment all woman are stupid.)
My point is to essentially that everybody is grouping woman and men together. You are all pretty much defending your group as a whole. I don't know how much times I have to say this but not all woman are not the same!!! So you cannot as much as you try defend woman. and the same goes for men. You cannot defend these things because they are so diverse within themselves that whatever point you make about them there will always be a man or a woman that will make your point null (So that when I said the term 'blonde' means somebody stupid and that it is a term used for females it means that particualr woman is stupid). When it comes down to it, it is ALL about the indivual. All about who that person is...not who that man is or who that woman is. Now for my lifetime and many generations to come people will stereotype and generalize because it is 1000x easier and there are way to much people who you will see and not speak to or hear and your brain will instantly make an assumption of who that is, it's human nature.
If you said that your boyfriend is Cute, are all men cute? No it is your boyfirend. Yes some are but obvioussly not all.
When you say that woman has nice hair, do all woman have nice hair? No but that woman has nice hair.
When you said that woman on the road is 'driviing like a blonde', are all woman driving like a blonde? No.
Yes i know blonde is a sexist term and i appologize if it offended anybody but I in no way aimed it at all blonde people and ment it as strictly a term for females that are not intelligent!
Finally though aimed generally at woman NOT ALL BLONDES ARE FEMALE!!!!
 
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My views on Women reflect Omniscent for the most part.

Women and Men are equals, that's true, but men and Women are completely different.
I hold women in nothing but the highest regard, however the modern 'perception' of a woman, as I refer to it, is not positive at all. They're being viewed more and more as just sex objects. And I don't know about in America or any other countries, but here in the U.K, Women are obliging to this new perception, Miniskirts, short-cut tops, etc.
In Modern culture, the role of "housewife" is now looked down upon by modern women and is also taken as an insult.
I'm not saying that Women shouldn't go out and get a job and a good education, because if that's what they want, then they should go for it, but as far as I've noticed, all of the intelligent Women are too busy getting more intelligent, and here, the lesser intelligent people have child after child after child, degrading the human race's I.Q as a whole, again I have no idea how this is in th U.S, but in the U.K, that's how it looks.

I'm sorry if this has "offended" anyone, but it's all personal opinion.
 
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That is true, although equallity won't work as people want differant thing it is finding a balance that works...which is besides the point. Anway, yes woman are being seen as more as sex objects than they were in the past as things are being allowed these days. i.e. miniskirts as in the past they were taboo. But the same process has began with men. Metro sexuals...men have started paying more attention to themselves and the same thoing is happening. Male strippers and gigalosn are becoming common place these days and of cource there are far more female versions than male the ratio is shrinking. As for being sex objects that will in some way always be a factor as it is deeply imbedded into human nature and cannot be erased if it were then we'd all be pretty screwed.
 
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THAT BLONES ARE NOT ALL WOMAN!!!!!! Ok Vengefulronin yes its true about the phrase 'blonde' being a stereotype but these days when you say somebody is blonde it is used as either stupid or hairolour and you should be able to tell the differance with context.

Yeah, there's a button on your keyboard called caps lock, turn it off next time, kthnx. You apparently don't understand that when the term blonde is used, it's still being sexist whether or not you mean it as such. If you call someone a spic, even if they aren't Mexican it's still racist. Nothing changes that. If you call someone a dumb blonde, it's a sexist term because it applies to blonde women exclusively. In its foundations the word is sexist, and unless somehow people start applying it to blonde men as well on a daily basis, sexist it shall remain.


But not of all woman, it was again me who said it earlier on. But again being blonde does not mean being a woman !!!BLONDE DOES NOT MEAN WOMAN!!! stop talking about me saying that. and i am sorry if i implied that all females who are blonde are stupid because i do not beleive that. ne of the smartest girls who i went to school with was blonde(and one of the smartest in the my entire year before anyone says that i ment all woman are stupid.)
Again, there's a caps lock button, turn it off plx. You've said before that you know smart blonds. You're only trying to make excuses and by using them, you're only making them exceptions to the rule.


You are all pretty much defending your group as a whole.

I'm not defending my group. Males drivers are aggressive and reckless, I can be that way too.

I don't know how much times I have to say this but not all woman are not the same!!!

*claps* You figured that out ^_^ That's called being an individual, quite a marvel isn't it?

(So that when I said the term 'blonde' means somebody stupid and that it is a term used for females it means that particualr woman is stupid)
Well in that case, just say "stupid" instead of a stereotypical term. Now you can insult people as much as you want without inadvertently being sexist and stereotyping.

When it comes down to it, it is ALL about the indivual. All about who that person is...not who that man is or who that woman is. Now for my lifetime and many generations to come people will stereotype and generalize because it is 1000x easier and there are way to much people who you will see and not speak to or hear and your brain will instantly make an assumption of who that is, it's human nature.
No shit, sherlock. Yes, the mind makes quick generalizations and for the large part it's unavoidable. However, the instant you speak or type that generalization, you are solidifying it. Thoughts occur first, speech or typing is slower. By letting that generalization escape your mind without stopping to question it, you are giving that generalization control over the way you think and perpetuating it.


If you said that your boyfriend is Cute, are all men cute? No it is your boyfirend. Yes some are but obvioussly not all.
When you say that woman has nice hair, do all woman have nice hair? No but that woman has nice hair.
And that just has nothing to do with anything.


Yes i know blonde is a sexist term and i appologize if it offended anybody but I in no way aimed it at all blonde people and ment it as strictly a term for females that are not intelligent!
You know it's sexist, yet continue to use it? Christ, are you suicidal? Don't you get it? By merely using the word you are perpetuating the stereotype. We know you're using it for unintelligent women, that's what makes you a stereotyping sexist. Don't you get it? By merely using the word you are perpetuating the stereotype. And you admit to it being a sexist term, yet still use it? This isn't Clerks 2 buddy, we're not "taking back" any terms.
 
I keep mention individualism because i beleive in that point. I don't use caps I use the shift button and if i so deem to to inhanse the point that i deem necessary as needing more than bold and underlined print then i shall use such buttons. I use it to girls at work and also to any other girls i likeand they have never had no quarels that it is sexist and i shall continue to use it as long as they never take offense to it and it keeps the world a happy place, this is probably due to me not using it in a sexist manner and they know so in this day and age people can say sexist and racial terms and not be considered racist or sexist...comedians being the obvious example but there is a line and that line can be crossed but as veiws change the line gets moved and hope not to cross it. Things such as blonde moment these girls don't take offence to. they take it as light banter and have a laugh with it. I will though continue to say, as I have been saying, that there are some stupid woman in this world and some dumb men and some smart woman and some smart men(yes of cource you want to point out this comment as 'no shit sherlock' or 'duh 'doi' or whatever you want as it is an obvious statement)
I also feel you are beggining to take this to a personal level. lets keep it here please(not a stab at you)
 
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