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Mr. Bombface

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There's something that's been bugging me for quite some time, and I feel that I must vent for a moment.

Square showed us this... "Technical Demo for The PS3" knowing good and damn well what the publics reaction would be. Fanboys worldwide had a unified global orgasm and the remake rumors started flying.

So here's the question. Square KNEW this was going to happen and yet time after time they deny all knowledge or possibility of a remake. So... WHY in the hell did they even bother showing this "Technical Demo for PS3"?

They do seem to be stretching it thin and milking the franchise a bit but only Final Fantasy VII. Why not VIII or IX...? Although some of you may or may not know that VII is incomplete. Square had pushed the deadline for the game too much and the demand for the game was too high so Square threw the game game together the best they could and got it on store shelves. So technically speaking this could be Square's chance to redeem what was lost in translation with a remake. So it's possible that them denying a remake could be a ploy to keep the public from demanding the games release sooner rather than later. It's just a thought. The spin-offs could be deemed as the "lost content", but I highly doubt stories based on other characters from the VII universe could hardly be considered "lost content". I don't know really, but again it's just a thought. I don't want to sound so... "fanboyish", but it just pisses me off that if they didn't have plans on remaking the damn game, than why did they even bother showing the "Technical Demo for PS3"? There were MANY... MANY other titles they could have previewed at that conference back then.

So anyways don't start flaming because that's not what this thread is about. It's just a dicussion. So discuss it like mature people.
 
Well presumably they showed it as.. a technical demo.

They knew the subject matter would get interest, thats the whole point of it :)

They were clear from the start there wouldn't be a remake. It's hardly their fault if the fanboys made up all their own rumours and stories, then got pissed off that the stuff they made up themselves didn't come true lol.

Sony used Gran Turismo stuff for tech demos, while fully aware it would take another 18 or so months after the console launch before those games saw the light of day. Publishers use their most recognisable brands to drum up interest in demo's like this, thats just how it works :)
 
Pretty much what Decado said. And don't bring VIII or IX into this, you might jinx things. VIII was bad enough, we don't need spinoffs of it, and IX was great, if SE gets its dirty hands on it they'll only ruin it.

Someone linked to this site and they asked about the VII "remake", so here's that part for you:

WhatIfGaming: Speaking of that, I know that the PR will be pretty pissed that I’m asking this anyways but you and I both know I have to. Even if it doesn’t get an answer, I need to (fist clench gesture)!. Back when PS3 was launching, there was a pruriently impressive demo of Cloud at a subway station and all of that. Since then a lot of people have been asking and hoping for a remake of Final Fantasy VII only for the PlayStation 3. Will there be any announcement at all before the release of Final Fantasy XIII for an exclusive Final Fantasy VII on the PS3?

SH: (laughs) I hate to avoid this question but I will say one thing. We currently know a lot of people are asking for this but we’re already very busy with all of the titles as you mentioned before to be even considering a remake at the moment.
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They're too swamped to do anything right now. I'm sure if they had the time they WOULD do a remake, because they know full well just how many rabid VII fans are out there. They'll make one if they can, just let it go.
 
Here's for the sake of false hopes. LOL!

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A tech demo is to show off what the console is capable of. So in terms of showing what the PS3 can do, all you have to do is compare the PS1 scene to the PS3's tech demo, and you immediately see the advancement in graphics. It's in no way intended as an advertisement, or a teaser, it's a technical demonstration of the capability of the PS3.
 
Mr. Bombface said:
Square showed us this... "Technical Demo for The PS3" knowing good and damn well what the publics reaction would be. Fanboys worldwide had a unified global orgasm and the remake rumors started flying.
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Well it was only a technical demo showing the capabilties of the PS3. They did the same with FF6 for the Nintendo 64... They showed FF6 characters fighting monsters in 3d graphics, but that wasn't to say that they were going to remake FF6 for the N64 at all. We all know that Final Fantasy went onto the Playstation instead and went along with new titles..
What I'm getting at is that just because they show a technical demo does not mean that they are definately doing a remake. They were simply just showing off.
 
Perhaps some of you are misinterpreting what I'm saying. It was BECAUSE they showed the tech demo that the rumors started to fly. There were several different titles that they could have showcased at that conference that utilized the graphical output of the PS3 instead of something that Square knew going in that would cause a commotion within the industry. I never once said that the Tech Demo was a confirmation for a remake. That's just an idiotic fanboyish sense of self-indulgence. Fact is that Square knew exactly what the reaction would be. Seems to me that the Square reps are getting a little tired of the rumors and questions so all I'm saying is they shouldn't have shown the damn thing in the first place.
 
To be honest even if they do make a remake it will be in a few years until they find a different level of game making for the ps3, you can see the difference between ff7 to ff9 for ps1 and ff10 to ff12 the graphics greatly improved with each game so i think they will leave a remake a while until they fully understand what a ps3 can do.
 
Mr. Bombface said:
Perhaps some of you are misinterpreting what I'm saying. It was BECAUSE they showed the tech demo that the rumors started to fly. There were several different titles that they could have showcased at that conference that utilized the graphical output of the PS3 instead of something that Square knew going in that would cause a commotion within the industry. I never once said that the Tech Demo was a confirmation for a remake. That's just an idiotic fanboyish sense of self-indulgence. Fact is that Square knew exactly what the reaction would be. Seems to me that the Square reps are getting a little tired of the rumors and questions so all I'm saying is they shouldn't have shown the damn thing in the first place.
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So wait, you're upset that they used VII as a tech demo because it caused the fanboys to freak out? So what, would you rather it have been Gran Turismo or Ratchet and Clank or some other large Sony franchise? You're complaining about nothing, get over it.

And you're right, I'm sure SE did know what the reaction would be, it was a strategic move on their part. Show a tech demo of the opening Midgar scene, get all the nostalgia fags hyped up and thinking about FF7 again, and then flood the market with spin-offs. The tech demo happened in March 2005. When did Advent Children come out? September 2005 in Japan, April 2006 in North America. Lots more spin-offs soon followed. It was brilliant, actually. All they did was take one little scene from FF7, slap pretty graphics on it and the fanboys started eating up every piece of halfassed crap SE was putting on store shelves. Whoever they hired as marketers are certainly earning their paychecks.
 
You're not understanding me. If Square is getting jimmied up over people asking whether or not a remake is in order then they shouldn't have made the Tech Demo because again as I have said Square knew how the public would react. It was the setting stone for spin-offs I'll agree, but was it necessary? Square could have just as easily released these titles WITHOUT the Tech Demo and had the same damn response. Sure for the same token there would have been rumor of a remake, but I don't think the impact of the remake rumors would have been quite as abundant. Really and honestly I could care less if there is a remake or not, and again I don't want to sound fanboyish, but it just seems to me that if Square is going to start getting pissy about the remake rumors then they shouldn't have leaped before looking. As I said and I will be saying YET again there were PLENTY of titles for Sony to use to showcase the graphical output of their console. Square's involvement was in no way necessary. There are other titles available that in terms of graphical output are far superior than that Tech Demo that Square gave to Sony.
 
Mr. Bombface said:
Really and honestly I could care less if there is a remake or not, and again I don't want to sound fanboyish, but it just seems to me that if Square is going to start getting pissy about the remake rumors then they shouldn't have leaped before looking.
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It doesn't look that way to me. If you really didn't care if there was a remake, why do you care so much about this? And you say SE is getting pissy about people asking the question so much. In the quote I provided, Hashimoto didn't seem pissed off by the question, so would you mind providing some actual interviews where SE representatives have gotten pissed off over being asked about the remake? People have been clamoring for a Chrono Trigger sequel for years, but SE hasn't gotten pissed off about that, I don't see why this would be any different.

As I said and I will be saying YET again there were PLENTY of titles for Sony to use to showcase the graphical output of their console. Square's involvement was in no way necessary. There are other titles available that in terms of graphical output are far superior than that Tech Demo that Square gave to Sony.
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One would think SE making a tech demo of VII has actually offended you in some way, I've never seen anyone so upset over it. Sony chose Square, deal with it and move on with your life.
 
If it wasn't a Tech Demo of FFVII then it would have been a Tech Demo for something else.

"OMFGZ DAY R REMAKKING CHRONNO TWIGGARR!!!"
"NO IT'S JUST A 'TECH DEMO'"
"BUT IF DAY R DEN IT MUST MEEN A REMAK!!!"...etc, we would still have the same argument on our hands just it would be a different game rather than our beloved FFVII.

My prediction is this. Once they've gotten IV out on the DS, and then go on to do V and VI, then maybe they will start considering doing a PS3 remake of VII. However they have said that they arn't planning to do one untill FFVII is no longer compatible with new consoles (ie PS4) as it is but that will probably change.
 
well all i can say is REMAKE IT FOR PS2 lol jokes

anyways i think what hes saying is that

he wants us to know that even though rumours are flying around that the TECH DEMO is just a TECH DEMO and that it most likley will not turn into a game in the near future

correct me if im wrong

but i jsut wanted to say that i think moonchild hit the nail on the tip ( or however that saying goes)
 
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