Sexual Education

I was playing CoD and some kid who tried to convince me that two men who DON'T and NEVER had HIV/AIDS who only have sex with each other will eventually get HIV/AIDS...

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It wasn't THAT big of a surprise, considering what state he was from too, but still :dry:

I think sexual education needs to be taught BETTER in some places or be monitored/taught by experts. NOT by those who only know how to teach from out of a book.

It seems like regular Sex Ed teachers just don't cut it nowadays, what with all the pregnancies and such.
 
Sexual education isn't that bad here in Ireland, especially since the division from the church. By 2nd year(13-14 years old) I knew the dangers of STI/STDS, as well as AIDS and pregnancy.

But, the guys who were in my class didn't know much from the get go, with on fellow shouting out that a virgin girl could get pregnant her first time...

Sexual education rating:
7/10
 
I personally think they need to do a better job of teaching the kids the very specifics of sex education, such as the proper use of birth control and condoms and safety precautions, a long with more graphical details such as vasectomies. In short, they should just get rid of the "abstinence is key" lessons clearly aren't working, since there's so many pregnant teenagers.

I remember when I was in middle school, they told us that they weren't allowed to teach these kind of things because, and exact words, "It will make the parents think that we are promoting sex among teenagers."

At my school, they don't even tech proper sex ed, only the anatomies of the sexual reproductive organs, and they just teach us that sex before marriage is a sin and that we shouldn't do it.
 
Ahri said:
they just teach us that sex before marriage is a sin and that we shouldn't do it.
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Do you know what is really funny?

I live in one of the worlds (apparently) most catholic countries, but I've never had that said to me by any person: priest, nun, teacher or parent. :lew:
 
Insanity Wolf said:
Just as a point of clarification, the Catholic Church isn't telling anyone that condoms are "bad." They're saying that condoms are unnecessary because sex should only be used for procreation, so there's no reason to have casual sex inside or outside of marriage, thus no need for condoms. If you're only doing it for procreation, a condom, or any form of birth control is pointless, and defies the point of sex.

To be clear, I disagree with that viewpoint as well. But there is misinformation about the subject, as well as misinformation about the misinformation.
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The Catholic Church teaches that birth control is a consolation for sex, therefore increasing the amount of sex and being hardly as effective as it is intended to be. There has been very little decrease in the amount of teen pregnancy or spread of STD's.
Humans are far from the only species that are sexually ultra-active, and it is the only one that attempts to control pregnancy. The Church finds it sinful because, being made in the image of God, we should be controlling our urges, not finding ways to let loose with them. All that has done is harm, as you so see everywhere you look.

As for sex education, it is a waste of tax dollars. I never took one day of sex ed and knew all there was to know by the age of fourteen.
 
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I remember when I said that two and a half years ago. :hmmm:

There has been a significant decrease in teen pregnancy rates over the past 20 years. 44% across all ethnicities. The reason? Sex education and multiple forms of birth control. Teen pregnancy also costs the state billions of dollars every year. So the "waste" is irrelevant. We're going to spend the money anyway.

"Controlling our urges" .... Yes, because teenagers are so good at that.
 
Insanity Wolf said:
I remember when I said that two and a half years ago. :hmmm:

There has been a significant decrease in teen pregnancy rates over the past 20 years. 44% across all ethnicities. The reason? Sex education and multiple forms of birth control. Teen pregnancy also costs the state billions of dollars every year. So the "waste" is irrelevant. We're going to spend the money anyway.

"Controlling our urges" .... Yes, because teenagers are so good at that.
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I want to see some statistics. I'm calling bullshit on that.
 
Globally it's fairly well established that the more sex education there is, the lower the teen birth rates are. Also global rates are trending downwards across the board, according to the UN.

Despite the best efforts of the churches, of course.
 
Insanity Wolf said:
Globally it's fairly well established that the more sex education there is, the lower the teen birth rates are. Also global rates are trending downwards across the board, according to the UN.

Despite the best efforts of the churches, of course.
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It's an arbitrary stance. Sex education is self-evident. Like I said, it's a waste of tax dollars. Unless you mean to insult the basic intelligence of other nations, you cannot say any of that is a factor. People don't want to deal with having a kid, even though they want sum ass, you see.
 
Perhaps, but I hated philosophy class, so unless you have some hard stats that disprove my claim that global birth rate is trending downward and/or that the amount of sexual education and teenage birth rates are inversely proportional, I'm not really interested.
 
Insanity Wolf said:
Perhaps, but I hated philosophy class, so unless you have some hard stats that disprove my claim that global birth rate is trending downward and/or that the amount of sexual education and teenage birth rates are inversely proportional, I'm not really interested.
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Actually, I'm going to concede that pregnancy rates have gone down in certain 1st world countries, particularly America. It's not a subject I'm specifically knowledgeable of. My stance with the Church on this is a bit outdated.
 
Uhh.

http://www.npr.org/2012/08/19/159252419/teen-pregnancy-declines-but-u-s-still-lags-behind and http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/publications-a-z/1487-publications.

I've got to agree with Jesse on this one. I'm glad you are fortunate enough to be able to control your urges and know everything about the male and female reproductive tracts from the beginning of puberty, but the sad fact is that most do not.

There have been studies that the teen pregancy rates have dropped due to sex education programs. We need something out there for the parents who don't give a crap about the subject, assume their kids already know about contraception, or think it's too touchy a subject to get into it with their kids. Who is going to teach them then...the internet or social media? I'd rather a teacher teach them about it than Youtube or internet pr0n...but that's me anyways.

Unless...you'd rather keep paying for their unplanned pregnancies through T19 or other federally-funded taxpayer dollars :hmmm:
 
You mean first world countries like Malawi, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Benin, Guatemala, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, Jamaica, Timor-Leste, Syria, Sudan, Cambodia, and Suriname? Among many others. In fact, the overwhelming majority of nations are seeing the downward trend, regardless of whether they're developed or developing. It's 17% across the board in the last 15 years, Hoss. Your assumptions were completely wrong.
 
Rapture said:
Uhh.

http://www.npr.org/2012/08/19/159252419/teen-pregnancy-declines-but-u-s-still-lags-behind and http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/publications-a-z/1487-publications.

I've got to agree with Jesse on this one. I'm glad you are fortunate enough to be able to control your urges and know everything about the male and female reproductive tracts from the beginning of puberty, but the sad fact is that most do not.

There have been studies that the teen pregancy rates have dropped due to sex education programs. We need something out there for the parents who don't give a crap about the subject, assume their kids already know about contraception, or think it's too touchy a subject to get into it with their kids. Who is going to teach them then...the internet or social media? I'd rather a teacher teach them about it than Youtube or internet pr0n...but that's me anyways.

Unless...you'd rather keep paying for their unplanned pregnancies through T19 or other federally-funded taxpayer dollars :hmmm:
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I became Catholic not because I thought it has the answers, but because I know the answers and Catholicism is the only on that agrees.
On the surface, it may seem like sex ed classes make a difference, but they don't. It was the mention of them that made the difference. Society began to realize that it should be careful. Therefore, in this day and age, you learn about pregnancy and STD's by default. You cannot begin to tell me you learned everything you kno from a a class.
Really?

People have gotten smart enough to avoid procreation. That is exactly why a man rejoices when they find out they do not have a child. Watch Maury or Springer much? Nobody particularly enjoys the idea of having a money hungry baby mama, you see.
WTF does sex ed teach on any of this? It is a waste of tax dollars.
 
Shinra Executive said:
I became Catholic not because I thought it has the answers, but because I know the answers and Catholicism is the only on that agrees.
On the surface, it may seem like sex ed classes make a difference, but they don't. It was the mention of them that made the difference. Society began to realize that it should be careful. Therefore, in this day and age, you learn about pregnancy and STD's by default. You cannot begin to tell me you learned everything you kno from a a class.
Really?

People have gotten smart enough to avoid procreation. That is exactly why a man rejoices when they find out they do not have a child. Watch Maury or Springer much? Nobody particularly enjoys the idea of having a money hungry baby mama, you see.
WTF does sex ed teach on any of this? It is a waste of tax dollars.
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I'm not knocking you on your religion. I too am religious and I find many of life's questions and answers through the Bible...however, not everyone in this world is going to step foot into a Catholic church and agree with all of what is said there. So because you have that view on sex education is all well and grand, but what about that large percentage of people that don't see things through your eyes? Not all kids will go to the Catholic church, but almost all will step into a classroom. Children need to be taught something about sex ed because they aren't all know-it-alls off the bat about how their reproductive systems work, and with teenage hormones being what they are, saying they should be abstinent until they are married will be about as effective as nailing Jell-O to a wall.

Some people should be smart enough to avoid procreation...but lets be honest, when you are 16 years old you aren't perfect. You break rules, you do crap you will probably have problems living down even in later life, i.e. you are young...and STUPID (well most people have been known to do some stupid things in their youth). Do you know how many times I've heard working in a L&D unit admitting teenage patients who swear they thought they couldn't get pregnant the first time they had sex :wacky: I don't think there is such a thing as an entirely smart teenager....you gain a lot of that through life experiences. When they are that young they don't know any better and then there is an innocent life brought into the mix via an unplanned pregancy. I'd rather these kids be taught something in school so in their moments of idiocy don't bring some poor kid into the mix to live a possible life of hardship or poverty.

Also you do realize the average cost of giving birth in a delivery unit is around $12,000-$15,000 for a vag delivery and $25,000+ for a Cesarean Section...and that's not even including if any complications like infection arise. A lot of these kids come in for prenatal care and all that throughout the pregnancy too...and a lot of them don't have private insurance. This means that as taxpayers, we pay their bills through Title 19 programs and other federally funded programs. Also if you ARE fortunate enough to have private health insurance, you pay for them when they come in the hospital in labor due to EMTALA.

Now...which is cheaper? A taxpayer funded sex ed program...or...prenatal care, labor and delivery, hospital bills, postpartum care, and well baby visits :hmmm:
 
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There should be an option for homosexual sex ed class in public schools to be honest. I'm not sure if there are any schools that do so, but it's not a bad idea. In fact, it is a smart idea because they don't teach those things in regular sex ed, to my knowledge...
 
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