Revelation is inevitble. Why not now?

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There's something that has been on my mind lately. Why should the truly inevitable be fought rather than embraced?
Fire away.

I figure I will post this to help get the ball rolling, as it may be hard to grasp the subject without emphasis.

There are many things, big and small, that are dismissed or even attacked to mar their possibility of becoming a reality. Yet some of these things are logically inevitable, met with impossible odds.
For example, marijuana legalization. It will happen, regardless of how much people fight it. So why the grief? Does it really have to come down to it being legalized next year or ten years from now? What is the point?
Henceforth,

Why fight the inevitable?

Of course, there are reasons for certain things, very few things. But damn, we should just get most stuff over with right?
 
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Not really.........Marajuana is a bad example first it isn't that bad........but not everyones addicted to it.

Let's take cigarettes for example........Lets just say its was just discovered it would definately banned so people do not get and harm their life. Like when they banned alcohol in the 20's in the USA it caused global outrage and people harmed themeselves more by producing their own.

Same is done with marajuana but legalizing it will provoke others to take it up.......It won't be legalized and even if it is........at some point they'll probably ban it again.

Thats just life at the end of the day things are restricted........but for the good!
 
Quite the contrary.
Marijuana is the most widely used drug in the world. There have been no cases of over-dose, suicide, or mental illness contributed by it's use. In fact, it has been shown to reverse these symptoms.
Despite DARE and the infinite other anti-drug campaigns, marijuana use has only grown. It is being decriminalized and accepted for medical use in many places.
It's literally unstoppable.
Yet people continue to fight it, knowing that at best, they are only slowing down it's inevitability.

This is a perfect example, because not only is it inevitable, the logic built on the idea of preventing it's use is blown ridiculously out of proportion.
The fact that those ideas have become so painfully obvious has left anti-marijuana groups without a paddle.
Once the general consensus they struggle to uphold is extinguished, marijuana will become legal.
Inevitability.

You, friend, are fighting the inevitable.
 
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:hmmm: Of course its used for some good purposes,just like morphine and other medicinal drugs (not gonna get into them don't know much about it). But like I said before the whole world isn't addicted to marijuana.........here's a fact(in the USA) 1 in 5 adults smoke cigarettes, for marijuana I'm 100% sure the statistics are nothing like that, probably 1 in 5000 people. If they legalize marijuana they'll just cause people to get addicted and eventually kill themselves. When tobacco was introduced many years ago,mass amounts of people got addicted having no clue they were killing themeselves.And well they just couldnt ban it as it would probably cause riots,protests,illegal developments etc etc.........it's legal for that reason but if they discovered tobacco now I'm a 100% it would be banned.

Unless the number of marijuana smokers are rising at a phenomenal rate and half the world smoke it........then they'll probably legalize it. But it'll NEVER happen :mokken:

Conclusion:
Revelation is prevent-able.
 
$$DarkShadow$$ said:
If they legalize marijuana they'll just cause people to get addicted and eventually kill themselves.
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For one, marijuana is not addictive. The biggest withdrawal symptom of THC is 'sweaty forehead'. On the contrary, nicotine is ten times more addicting than crack and it's withdrawal symptoms are much more unbearable then marijuana's.
Also note that marijuana is no where near as detrimental on the lungs than cigarettes. People who develop cancers from cigarettes smoke anywhere from 1 to 3 packs a day. It would take an impossible amount of marijuana to even come near that quantity of carcinigens being inhaled.

Alcohol is expotentially worse than marijuana. The reason it is legal is because of it's demand. Once more and more people realize the harmlessness of weed, it will evolve into legalization.

It's quite inevitable. Do you see any declination of it becoming more and more prevalent? It's no use.
The only reason it was banned anyways is because it threatened the paper industry..

But that doesn't matter because even the hardcore anti-marijuana extremists are feeling a little stupid now that these things are being brought to light.
 
I had to read yer first post like 3 times to get a vague idea of what your on about :wacky:

my answer

why not? |)
 
JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUES OF MARIJUANA. I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEING USED AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT IT HAS BECOME THE FOCAL POINT OF MOST OF THE POSTS. IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS THE RAMIFICATIONS AND/OR LEGALITY OF MARIJUANA USE, THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN A SEPARATE THREAD.
 
Terrible Terry Tate said:
JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUES OF MARIJUANA. I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEING USED AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT IT HAS BECOME THE FOCAL POINT OF MOST OF THE POSTS. IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS THE RAMIFICATIONS AND/OR LEGALITY OF MARIJUANA USE, THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN A SEPARATE THREAD.
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Sorry but you know I can't let this slide without mentioning this first. :P

Marijuana isn't illegal for it's so called 'dangers'. and it isn't illegal because too many people will kick up a fuss or to stop the amount of users rising. It's illegal because of its versatility. If it was allowed to be freely grown then many MANY corporations and businesses (whom have politicians in their pockets) will lose out. Fuel, paper, nutrition... but especially the big pharmaceutical companies. Why allow you to grow your own natural and free medicine when they can force you to buy their manufactured medicines that make them cash? and for this very sad reason we will never see it legalised, at least until society 'breaks down' and the people take the power back.

But that's a discussion for elsewhere. Now on topic before Triple T up there breaks down my brown door.

There are a few reasons why we should fight the inevitable, but this is my main one right now.

Reason: Vagina. Explanation: We are born, live life, then we die. Death is inevitable so what's the point putting up with the shit in life? If we stopped caring we would all be sitting around waiting for death if not already topping ourselves already. But we don't as there are good things in life and we can only find them if we go out and try. I would never have felt my first vagina if I sat around not caring and waiting for death, and my god what a fucking great day that was. We all know shits going to go down one day and life will cease to be, and one day that nice vagina is going to be a bad vagina, so why not make great use of it now before the inevitable?
 
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Interesting point, Moonchild

But there is one thing. You don't have to fight death to enjoy life. In fact, the best way to fight death is to not embrace life. Surround yourself with bubble-wrap and live in an underground bunker with slip grip floors and corner pads on furniture. Eat nutritious food after cooking it thoroughly with fire-less heat pockets and bathe in Purell :mrgreen:

Here's another inevitability that comes to mind: Viruses.
When you get a cold or flu, don't take medicine to relieve symptoms. It will turn a 4 day cold/flu into a two week cold/flu. Reducing symptoms only keep the virus inside. The misery balances out either way. Just save your money.
 
Sum1sgruj said:
Why fight the inevitable?

Of course, there are reasons for certain things, very few things. But damn, we should just get most stuff over with right?
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Nothing is inevitable until we label it and believe it as such. Sure one could say death is inevitable, because we have seen to be true in our loved ones, living things, etc.

Assuming things are going to be a certain way is jumping the gun, I think, no matter what the issue is.
 
Aliunas said:
Nothing is inevitable until we label it and believe it as such. Sure one could say death is inevitable, because we have seen to be true in our loved ones, living things, etc.

Assuming things are going to be a certain way is jumping the gun, I think, no matter what the issue is.
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We don't have to label anything for it to 'be'. Fighting the inevitable rather than preparing for it is quite literally stupid.
 
Sum1sgruj, why not fight it?

For example there are sports team that sometimes instantly let so many points slide, that it gets to the point where they "can't" win.

However sometimes these sports teams, rather than give up, try to put on/gain some extra points to at least not lose as horribly. It seems to help the fans' impression of them and possibly one or two other things, but they know they're not going to win.

That's just one example.

However I think it's part of human nature too. I think somehow, there's some sort of hidden logic or instinct to fight to live another 3 minutes if you know you are going to die anyway. But at what point do we let go? Do we fight for 3 minutes of life? 20 minutes? Do we hold onto a cliff for days of extra life? Months? Years? 30 years? 50 years? At what point should we give up?
 
Part of the fight might be fear. When people are faced with something they fear, fight or flight kicks in. With many problems, since we are humans and can approach them in an abstract manner (a blessing and curse that separates us from some of the animal kingdom), we take a combative approach. As a result, we choose to fight these issues, since they are far away and conceptual (some people prefer flight, religion in relation to death, for example).

Most people seem to fear change, and anything, no matter how inevitable, will cause change. They fight because they are comfortable, and they think that any change will disrupt their comfort.
 
Depends on what you fight.

Something like political change, that's easy, because you don't want it to happen, some things are inevitable but, to use your example, the legalisation of marijuana isn't one of them. As much as it should be legalised there's tremendous (and, tremendously uninformed) opposition to it. While they fight, the inevitable is delayed, delay it long enough and other things take precedence, people die, things change and who knows, it may simply never happen.

If it's something like work deadlines, taxes etc. Well that's just human stupidity. The idle hope that the zombocalypse will kick off and you'll be saved the work. Accepting that you're going to have to sort it out at some point doesn't make the prospect any more pleasant. We avoid unpleasantness, so we avoid it.
 
Lets not forget the idea of inevitability. Everything is bound by it, yet it's finality can be different for most. They're are some things, however, that are fought against impossible odds.
Like taking away the death penalty for example. It may be banned in certain places, but it will never become a majority ban.
Marijuana, however, will gradually become more and more acceptable. The only fear brought with the idea is that it will be a bit of a culture shock. But culture is slowly dying, not condemning murderers.
I consider these two things inevitable and should be embraced rather than fought. For every man who shuns the death penalty, there are more who enforce it. This will not end.
Marijuana is being decriminalized. Most people caught with it rarely face heavy penalties because underneath the 'devils weed' antic, everybody knows it's harmless.
After marijuana is completely decriminalized and widely accepted for medical use, many other uses of it will spur. Soon, they will have to legalize it simply because it cannot be simultaneously controlled and profiteered to that degree.

There are some things that simply have to be accepted. Alcohol kills people everyday and will never be banned. They tried before and failed miserably. That, to, is inevitable. Same with cigarettes. Marijuana will be the same one day.
 
it isn't that hard to see why we do what we do. we're human. we believe in things and some of us decide to actively protect those beliefs. sometimes we fight, sometimes we subvert and find a different method of dealing with the situation at hand. you'll have to be more specific if you're looking for a specific answer. none of the examples listed are cut and dry. everyone has opinions about marijuana, etc. that may or may not coincide with the popular consensus. the view that something is inevitable is only one set of mind.
 
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you'll have to be more specific if you're looking for a specific answer. none of the examples listed are cut and dry. everyone has opinions about marijuana, etc. that may or may not coincide with the popular consensus. the view that something is inevitable is only one set of mind.
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I dunno how more specific I can be. Inevitable is inevitable. It doesn't matter how much 'one' thinks, it doesn't change the fact. What is 'one' going to do, take over the world? This is a straw man argument- please refrain_

I personally feel that people fight the inevitable out of denial that the world changes. The energy spent on this could be directed at things that still have hope.

PETA, for example, fights the inevitable. Why don''t they focus on more efficient ways of treating animals rather than fight the way we treat them now? It may be far more difficult, but it will actually cause change..
 
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So, things arent worth fighting for regardless of whether you think you will win, or how hopeless it might be?

Better than rolling over and taking it, no matter what it is, better to say you've tried

Basically :wacky:
 
Sum1sgruj said:
I dunno how more specific I can be. Inevitable is inevitable. It doesn't matter how much 'one' thinks, it doesn't change the fact. What is 'one' going to do, take over the world? This is a straw man argument- please refrain_

I personally feel that people fight the inevitable out of denial that the world changes. The energy spent on this could be directed at things that still have hope.
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It's just our nature as humans, really. Fighting against something is a natural response when someone feels threatened. Futile or not, it is basic biological instinct, at least until the person is educated otherwise or develops another method to deal with the situation.

If meth were the drug becoming legalized inevitably, i'd fight it tooth and nail, in protection of both the general safety of my loved ones and my own integrity. my moral code just would not allow me to do otherwise. it depends on the issue, and this always varies.
 
Tmoo said:
It's just our nature as humans, really. Fighting against something is a natural response when someone feels threatened. Futile or not, it is basic biological instinct, at least until the person is educated otherwise or develops another method to deal with the situation.

If meth were the drug becoming legalized inevitably, i'd fight it tooth and nail, in protection of both the general safety of my loved ones and my own integrity. my moral code just would not allow me to do otherwise. it depends on the issue, and this always varies.
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Well damn, it''s human nature to control, kill, and pillage. Should it be excused? As soon as this is answered, I will talk about the concept of human selfishness. Until then, I think it's ridiculous that people fight the inevitable out of sheer fucking ability just to continue, in vain, their own advancement_
 
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