Necrophilia

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Note: This is a debate thread that's meant to have a light-hearted tone. Don't be afraid to righteously lol.

Necrophilia: obsession with and usually erotic interest in orstimulation by corpse.
Obsessive fascination with death and corpses.

Erotic attraction to or sexual contact with corpses.


My question: Is it still necrophilia if the subject in concern is undead?


'Undead' includes, zombies, ghouls, vampires, ghosts and any other resurrected beastie that died and didn't quite come back.

Personally, my answer is a resounding YES. Oh, sure, it may still MOVE and it may still RESPOND (I'm feeling sick now....) but it is, undeniably, very much still DEAD. It's living functions have ceased. Getting it on with an undead creature is like getting it on with a couch that's been enchanted to 'respond'.

So, what do you think?
 
What do I think? I just think this is a bit of a disturbing topic for starters :wacky:

The undead aren't technically alive- as they died before, so technically a zombie would still be a corpse, only moving.

Since necrophilia is basically an erotic obsession with the dead (good grief, who would be like that?), then yes, sexual attraction with a zombie would still be necrophilia.

Right, end of. I don't want to think about it. Urgh....

EDIT: Of course, I'm speaking in terms of IF the undead exist- which currently they don't, so a necrophile is stuck with normal corpses.
 
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No, it most definitely does not, because the undead do not exist and real necrophiliacs have real erotic stimulation by real corpses.

You can try to romanticize it all you like, but unless you can see a dead body in real life and feel sexually attracted to it, you are not a necrophiliac. :p
 
That's a tough one really. Technically the undead are just as dead as your standard everyday corpse, but I always figured that one of the things that necrophiliacs found appealing about corpses is the fact that they don't move.

Here's what wikipedia has to say on the matter:

Rosman and Resnick (1989) reviewed information from 34 cases of necrophilia describing the individuals' motivations for their behaviors: these individuals reported the desire to possess an unresisting and unrejecting partner (68%), reunions with a romantic partner (21%), sexual attraction to corpses (15%), comfort or overcoming feelings of isolation (15%), or seeking self-esteem by expressing power over a homicide victim (12%)

So I guess the real question is: Can sex with a zombie or ghoul still be considered necrophilia if the vast majority of necrophiliacs wouldn't even be into it? I say no. Sex with the undead is not necrophilia :P
 
Huh, interesting debate.

I would say that it would still be necrophilia if it involved the undead as opposed to the dead. Even though the undead has the ability to move and respond, it is something that died at some point in time. Although, doing such things with a vampire would be pretty close to a human, so it still becomes debatable. I suppose if it were a hot countress, I may, sadly enough, have bad thoughts about such.

The debate does come back to one's belief in the undead existing. I don't believe in such, so it's not something I think about or consider. But then again, who knows what exists now or what will exist in the semi-distant future.
 
Lol the scenario is meant to be hypothetical. We all know that the undead do not exist, however, Dragon Mage asks this if they did, would sex with them be considered necrophilia. Answer this question if we lived in a fantasy world where such things were real.

My opinion, it's hard to say. When do we consider someone to be truly dead? When the heart stops? When the brain is dead? When all the organs stop? If one considers someone to be dead when the heart stops, then anyone who has had sex with someone who has been resisucated is a necrophiliac.

And do we consider the undead as being dead if they have their former personality and are not some mindless being wondering around and eating people?

Also, what about ressurections where the person is brought back to life and are not rotting?

I would personally say no. I think necrophiliacs are those turned on by those who are truly dead and not moving. I think that if someone were attracted to the undead there would be another name for it.

Of all the undead, Zombies get the short end of the stick.
 
Exactly, Rydia! It's meant to be a hypothetical question.

If I may pose a set of the living, however? I can't quite remember ALL of it, but I'll try -- while in Biology class, we learned a set of rules that defined something as an animal. The acronym was GRIMMM (with 3 m's).

It stood for thus:

Growth -- something grows as time passes.
Response -- it will respond to an obstacle or something similar.
Irritability -- the subject will respond to stimulus such as a predator or interact with something else when prodded.
Movement -- subject will move of its own power.
Metabolism -- subject will digest food.
M-and I forgot this one. :P

So, in considering that these specifics describe every living thing (i'm not sure if it was restricted to animals or all biologicals or not) then let us recap.

Of all these rules, all undead have at least the power of movement and possibly irritability and response (zombies can be quite ignorant at times). Only vampires actually get metabolism. None of them grow.

Therefore, I think it's safe to say that all undead are disqualified from the mammal kingdom at the very least. They are not animals.

Take this as you will. :3
 
*clears throat* Ahem...first off. Eww. Second off, in terms of zombies here, even hypothetically speaking it wouldn't be possible to have sex with an undead creature thing whatever... You see, zombies are flesh-eating creatures, and before you could fuck it, it would have already eaten you alive. It doesn't crave your flesh sexually, it craves your flesh like a fat kid craves chocolate cake. So really, it's not possible. Same could be said for a vampire (unless you're a pathetic excuse for one like Edward Cullen 8F).

Ever seen Interview with the Vampire? xD Ole' Lestat there got the girls warmed up, but before anything could happen he was already biting them. So I don't it would be possible at all to have sex with an undead creature before they could bite you or eat you! :awesome: So all in all, you couldn't really call it necrophilia because it's just not possible to engage in sexual activity with a zombie or a vampire...hypothetically speaking. :wacky: xD
 
Kikyo said:
*clears throat* Ahem...first off. Eww. Second off, in terms of zombies here, even hypothetically speaking it wouldn't be possible to have sex with an undead creature thing whatever... You see, zombies are flesh-eating creatures, and before you could fuck it, it would have already eaten you alive. It doesn't crave your flesh sexually, it craves your flesh like a fat kid craves chocolate cake. So really, it's not possible. Same could be said for a vampire (unless you're a pathetic excuse for one like Edward Cullen 8F).
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Well, you could put a live person in front of you while you rock it. This way it would eat the live person while you get your jollies off with it. We are......still speaking hypothetically, correct?

I've already put too much thought into this. :ffs:
 
But remember what necrophilia is. A sexual *attraction* to dead matter. Not necessarily bangin' a corpse. I think that if you're aware that the zombie is ... well... a zombie, and that sets your little heart aflutter, then A) get the hell away from me, B) you're a necrophile, and C) no, seriously, back away... ju-.... JUST BACK AWAY.
 
We know not all vampires are evil and bloodsucking (such as Edward Cullen as Mandi pointed out, who is about as dangerous as a melting snowman), so what's to say some zombies can't also be friendly?

Surely out there in fiction there must be a zombie who doesn't crave brains or ample amounts of delicious human flesh, right? So there must be.....a rather.....promiscuous zombie out there..........somewhere? 8F

Only hypothetically........
 
Kikyo said:
You see, zombies are flesh-eating creatures, and before you could fuck it, it would have already eaten you alive.
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OMG Mandi, I seriously laughed my ass off! :P

But a good point. Well, for the sake of this thread, let's assume the zombie is NOT trying to nom your face off. Thanks for bringing that up. I never thought of that!

blakstang98 said:
Well, you could put a live person in front of you while you rock it. This way it would eat the live person while you get your jollies off with it. We are......still speaking hypothetically, correct?

I've already put too much thought into this.
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Very inventive, I must admit! lmao, just don't admit to actually TRYING and theories.... ;P

CassinoChips said:
But remember what necrophilia is. A sexual *attraction* to dead matter. Not necessarily bangin' a corpse. I think that if you're aware that the zombie is ... well... a zombie, and that sets your little heart aflutter, then A) get the hell away from me, B) you're a necrophile, and C) no, seriously, back away... ju-.... JUST BACK AWAY.
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I am SO quoting this thread for future signature use!

^He does have a point there, ya know.

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Surely out there in fiction there must be a zombie who doesn't crave brains or ample amounts of delicious human flesh, right? So there must be.....a rather.....promiscuous zombie out there..........somewhere?
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funny you should say that... Because I know of one! It's a book in the Xanth series by Piers Anthony. There, a man and a zombie both drink at a love spring, see each other, and fall madly in love. They even go on to have children (although the zombie maiden is nearly fully restored to her 'normal' appearance, before she died and was losing chunks of her flesh.) So yes, it is very possible!!!
 
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frankenstein could be considered a 'zombie', but he doesn't crave human flesh,
he just wants to be accepted
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what's wrong with being turned on by the undead? have you seen female vampires in media? what about succubi? hell we've even made Sadako from the Grudge into a sex symbol. you see, we humans can sexualize just about anything. perhaps we're the true monsters :wacky:

so in response to OP, no, seeing a hot undead girl/man that moves/talks like a human and becoming horny does not a necrophile make. if it talks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...(as far as sex is concerned)
 
0_o very disturbing i wont sleep tonight
first time i heard of necriphilia was south parks halloween episode that was a rofl episode.
i have no desire to fuck a zombie though...

@Tmoo Frankenstein was the Scientist's last name, the monster had no name and was referred to as the monster.
 
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I think it all boils down to what you define as "undead". If you're talking about the standard brain eating Ghoul then yes I can see that falling under the definition of necrophilia. If you're talking about certain glittery-skinned vampires that go to high school and dress up like snooty fashion models, then I have to ask whether the people attracted to them are really just after the "human" side instead of whatever irrelevant curse they may be affected with. I know Bella didn't give a wooden nickel about how long Edward was dead or not, she just wanted those concrete abs. :p

In short, Vampires and Succubi do not look or act ANYTHING like walking corpses, hence they hardly qualify as fodder for necrophiliacs.
 
But vampires are undead. They are dead and semi-resurrected. Think of them as a higher class of zombie that can blend in better and doesn't like getting brain matter stuck between their teeth.

I'm sorry, but that strikes me as making smex to a very dead creature. Only difference is that it can move, whereas a corpse cannot. At least, not much when the rigor mortise sets in.

And Succubi should be discounted here -- they are a special type of demonand are therefore not undead at all.
 
Tricky. :D

(The following post pretends that zombies, vampires and ghosts exist)


I think for me it'll depend on the state of mind, and perhaps the level of decay of the kind of undead creature you are sleeping with / in love with.

For example if it is a zombie, jaw hanging off, only able to groan (I didn't mean that in a sexual way, but what the heck :O) but it's brain is dead anyway and so a groan would be all it would want to do, then it is essentially a moving corpse.

A vampire, however, though still undead would likely have a fully functioning mind, perhaps superior to your own, and as far as appearances go vampires are usually in pretty good shape. Some of them even have personalities, so perhaps a person cannot be blamed for feeling a certain way about them.

I guess you could argue it is necrophilia for both cases, but a zombie would be pretty unresponsive and unable to even pretend to love you back, and a vampire might have seduced you in some way, would be interested in all sorts of physical exchanges (though your blood would be the aim), but at least there would be something in it.

The vampires would seem more complete and responsive, whereas most zombies wouldn't.

As for ghosts... Does it count as necrophilia if there isn't a body? Would it even be possible for any physical intimacy? :D If it is possible, the person is still dead, though with the lack of a body it wouldn't feel as disgusting.. Perhaps.. If it's just loving the ghost, then it is possible and if the ghost is very attractive and has some sort of personality, I can imagine many people might fall in love with the person who once occupied their house. Necrophilia? Technically I guess, but unless the ghost appears as a vision of death (like a hangman/woman or with an axe in the back of their neck), then there might not be anything immediately wrong with it in the eyes of the person in love with the ghost.

If the ghost interacts in some way, expresses some sort of love / illusion perhaps, and has a personality then perhaps it is much more a recording and an image of life than it is of death, and hence not necrophilia as the person might not be fascinated with death itself, but is instead in love with the hot busty naked girl who sometimes appears in his shower.





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Since being bitten by a zombie or a vampire would often turn you into the undead yourself, would it still be necrophilia then?
 
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Dead is Dead. So in answer YES it is necrophilia.
Once living condistions(air ,heart beat ,blood flow ect..) of the body cease it is considerd dead.
Therefor if one has a sexual encounter with a Vampire or Zombie it is considerd necrophilia.
But theres more and more fantasy facts based on these creatures thet change their mechanics so it makes it difficult to say exactly weather they are only part dead fully dead ect...I think it also depends on Who's creature we are talking about The classic Frankenstein (made from peoples dead body parts) or some current authors veiw of Frankenstien...(Thoough since hes made from dead body parts id consider it Necrophilia anyways)
But still anything with dead in it cant be truthfully alive in the average sence of the word so I would consider it necrophilia.
 
I would like to point out that. Not all Vampires are the same. Meaning not all of them are Actually Undead. So in terms of those Vampires. It wouldnt be necrophillia.

Now a Zombie is a plainly Dead body re animated Via Magic/Infection or machines. so interms of necrophillia YEs this is necrophillia

A ghoul is A undead speciment. so yes it would be necrophillia. while other ghouls are actually Normal things Transformed Via magic. Making them techincally Still alive. so this is NOT necrophillia.

A mummy is obviously undead, it dosent take a genuis to figure that out. So necrophillia.

Other things like A yeti,Werewolf,or a half infected Person/Zombie is NOT necrophillia

And to point out. a Skeleton Is necrophillia. even if it is moving. All you need is eyes to see that.
 
Other things like A yeti,Werewolf,or a half infected Person/Zombie is NOT necrophillia
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Wait... wouldn't the yeti and werewolf fall under the furry category? :wacky:

And to point out. a Skeleton Is necrophillia. even if it is moving. All you need is eyes to see that.
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Suddenly, "boner" takes on a whole new meaning.....
 
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