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Okay that was kinda weird?

It's a discussion thread, so I thought you were kinda allowed to either state you loved or hated it, isn't that what it's all about? =/

I complain about themes alot, but that's not 'cause I think they suck or fail or whatever. =/ It's just 'cause it's hard to get creative with some of the themes that are given up.

Would also like to say that I do appreciate the themes being put up, just because I'm saying I don't like the theme, doesn't mean I'm disrespecting anyone...

It's just having my own opinion. =/

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EITHER WAY.

I'm completely pissed off with trying to find a good "anime" render/stock, so I'll leave it be for now, and try again later.

Bah.
 
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Anime as a theme is unimaginative?

Okay... Well let's look at it this way. If the theme had been a specific anime like Naruto, those who hate Naruto would have complained that it was Naruto. I know I would, I despise the anime. If it was Pokémon, those who dislike Pokémon would have complained. At least with an all round theme, like Anime in general, those who want to enter have free rein on which anime series they decide to use. They're not stuck using an anime they possibly despise and will therefore feel less passionate about their piece. A broader theme allows entrants to decide which section of that theme they wish to use, and it gives Voters more variety, rather than looking at a possible eight entries all using the same image of Naruto.

We who give out themes to the members are not here to make the images come to life in your heads. We give a theme for you to interpret however you wish. If you think a theme is unimaginative, fine, but that is not our fault. Just because you're unable to get a clear image in your head immediately like you might with another theme, doesn't make the theme unimaginative.

Also, complaining as you have been can be seen as rude. Fine, you don't HAVE to like the themes you're given, but we don't do themes that cater to the same people every time. Every one has a different comfort zone. Just because a theme might not be within yours, or one of your favourite, does not make it uncreative or boring or whatever else. We don't think of themes to suit one member all the time. If you don't like the theme, there's nothing forcing you to enter.

It's not as though the world is going to come to an end just because you don't enter one week/month.

Try and look at it from our point of view. We come up with these themes (And yes, I am including myself in this because for a lot of the SotW's I'd usually do, Mark has been getting themes from me and this weeks [Text] was also complained about, which I decided on) with the aim to get as many people involved as possible. You're free to complain, but imagine how we feel when we think of a theme that's nice and broad, or interesting, where most of the GFXers will be able to take part and the first thing we see is someone saying "That's unimaginative" or, "There's not a lot of room for creativity with that theme."

Believe it or not, we're human beings with feelings just like you are. That sort of thing does get to us when we're doing our best to include everyone.

I had a point to this rant. Hold on, let me find it.

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Please don't complain to us about a theme being uncreative/unimaginative just because it doesn't specifically suit you. The entrants FOR the theme always outweigh those against it.It's called being Unbiased. We'd get more complaints if we continually picked themes that were perfect for the same member over and over.

I'm not calling any of you who complain, uncreative, but it seems we only ever get complaints about a theme when it doesn't specifically fit a members comfort zone. And I'm not saying you're not allowed to voice your opinion, but getting aggressive and answering back when all we're trying to do is make the competition enjoyable is a bit uncalled for.

And on that note, that's enough of the disagreement about this theme. There's no need to get into an argument over it. It's a theme. It'll be over soon. Either grit your teeth and enter if you don't like the theme or wait for the next one.

Let's try keep the GFX section happy, eh?


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It's nice to be back in the GFX section :wacky:
 
I'd just like to point out that not everyone is calling it boring and unimaginitive because they don't like the theme.

It may be that because they actually feel it's boring and unimaginitive and that's why they don't like it. Could be the other way around is what I'm saying.
 
Our point is, they don't HAVE to like every theme. No one is going to like every single theme. Even I don't.

We don't have to put effort into competitions like this and SOTW, but we do because we want people to enjoy the site and gfx. Complaining every time someone doesn't like a theme gets old really quickly.


Anyway. Moving on from this whole thing. It'll do none of us any good to keep going on and on and repeating ourselves here.


Let's just let it lie. -_-
 
They have the right to complain about it though. It is a discussion thread after all and it's where you can voice your concerns. (If one wishes to.)
 
I never said they weren't able to complain. I stated that in my rant. I asked that they consider things from our point of view before stating something is boring etc.

You're right, it is a discussion thread, but sometimes complaints make people feel shitty. This competition has started with a broad theme to get it started. The themes will get move involved as interest picks up.

We just want people to understand that.
 
I know you didn't say that, but people will complain regardless and you just have to get over it. Just like people will have to get over a theme they don't like.

People will always complain no matter what's picked.
 
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Well that's their problem, not ours, tbh.

Also, please don't tell me to "get over it" I find that mildly offensive.

If they have the right to complain, I have the right to complain about them complaining, therefore I don't have to 'get over it'

This is a discussions thread, not a rant thread, so moving on.


I have some interesting theme ideas for the future, which will hopefully please the majority. =3
 
I was just saying that both sides to look at the other one and see it from their perspective.
 
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I see it from their side. I complain sometimes too. :wacky:

And it's fine.

What sort of themes interest you guys anyways? Ideas are always welcome.
 
Themes like a certain colour scheme would be cool. I've seen them on other GFX sites. Or even give the stock that has to be used in the LP and see how different people use the same thing.

Also themes like emotions are quite good IMO. Every person has a different viewpoint so you usually get a wider variety in the entries. Love for example, it can be a happy glittery theme or a dark one depending on the person.
 
Mhmmm. I quite like themes that can be taken any way. I'm obssessed with the Seven Sins because people view them differently depending on which they're more swerved towards personally.

Seasons are good sometimes too. I have to agree, colours are good. And emotions make you think about what you feel about that particular feeling. Hmmm. :hmmm:
 
Seven sins is a great theme though i prefer it when one specific sin is chosen. You see some entries that really have alot of thought put into them then you look below and theres a sig with cloud and sephiroth :facepalm:

Also :ffs:
 
I'd just like to say that was was stated by the 'GFX theme'-people, it's kinda rude to the participants to say something like, 'we're not here to cater you'.

It's a discussion, so basically someone saying they don't like a theme or think it's shite is their opinion. I'm not sure how that comes over as rude, 'cause it's not meant as something personal but just not liking a certain theme, I don't see anything wrong with that.

Besides that though, I do believe that the people presenting the SOTW/AOTW are in fact here, to keep this entertaining for the biggest crowd joining the contests. So I thought it was kinda pointless to say they're not here to cater, well, you're here to make these GFX'ers interested. >.>

Besides, saying Anime is unimaginative, in other words would be, it's "done too much already". It's worn out. Milked. What have you.

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Either way, I'm gonna start working on my Text theme entries tonight. Finally two days off, so I can work on them.
 
Try REREADING my point.

We are here to make it interesting but we can't make every theme cater to every person all the time. There's ALWAYS going to be someone who doesn't like a theme. Meaning, whilst we make the themes to inspire you, we can't cater to all of you at the same time


I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over. :eek:
 
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Try REREADING my point.

We are here to make it interesting but we can't make every theme cater to every person all the time. There's ALWAYS going to be someone who doesn't like a theme. Meaning, whilst we make the themes to inspire you, we can't cater to all of you at the same time


I feel like I'm repeating myself over and over. :eek:
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That is not what I said, Vikki. This was going on before you even got back, so I'm not just pointing it out because you said something about it.

I'm not trying to say that you guys are JUST here to do all that, but with what has been stated before, others, including myself were offended with it. It's just annoying to read and it was completely pointless.

Though, it's really not worth the discussion to be honest.

Themes will be themes. Crappy or not. But then again, opinions will be opinions I suppose.

I'll just drop it. It's really not worth it. =/
 
And tbh, Mark, Jessica and myself were slightly offended by being told to get over it. But I guess how we feel in this matter doesn't really rate up there.

Yes. Dropping it is good. As I've been trying to do for the last page. <_< Complaining is all well and good but its not a complaint only thread. Rah rah rah.

Pom poms and all that shizzle

I know what my theme will be next. :hmmm:
 
*poke* I wanna know what this next theme is 8F

Also, did someone say pom-poms? :cheer:

I haven't even started this yet... but I think I'mma use Ouran High School Host Club :hmmm: Only anime I've ever finished... so... logical... 8F Or maybe Kodocha... although I don't recall the real/full title either 8F I only read the manga as well... I'd probably spoil myself looking for images xD

Anyone else started this yet? :hmmm:
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And on that note, that's enough of the disagreement about this theme. There's no need to get into an argument over it. It's a theme. It'll be over soon. Either grit your teeth and enter if you don't like the theme or wait for the next one.

Let's try keep the GFX section happy, eh?
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This.

Coming from a neutral who doesn't participate in SotW/AoTW/LPC everyone has a valid point, however, things need to be seen on both sides. Understandably people will express their concerns and disapproval and have a right to, naturally. On the other hand, it's also understandable why the staff who set the theme aren't particularly happy. I'm willing to assume that it is hard work trying to decide on a theme that everyone is going to be happy with, it's just unfortunate that regardless of the theme some are not going to be suited to particular individuals and some just may not like the theme in general.

Therefore, I would imagine it's not particularly nice when they have to read that what they've chosen is "boring" or "uncreative". Of course people will debate on the matter but unless you're in their shoes I think it's very difficult to see their side of the argument simply because people have their own opinions on the matter. However, I do feel there are other ways to go about the situation, the discussion thread is open for theme suggestions as well I presume so maybe, alongside any other opinions people wish to express, this should be used by people who wish for a more "creative" theme that may be chosen for a theme in the following weeks. I use the word "creative" loosely since it comes down to the opinion of the individual.

N.B. I realise other people will have most likely posted before this post therefore I'm not using this to try and fuel the fire as it were, completely the opposite. If people don't agree with this then fair enough, however, I just feel it's important to look at it from the viewpoint of a neutral. If people want to disagree with me then again, fair enough, but I'm not going to debate back whilst this whole argument is going round in one massive circle.
 
That's why I asked what themes people might be interested in Ryan. :awesome:

I have a couple of themes in mind for when its my turn. I like more abstract themes myself, personally.

I, as I'm sure my fellow theme-thinker-uppers are, am very open to the ideas of the gfxers. Give us some themes you'd like to do in the future and we'll work them in. We'd rather give you something you'd enjoy.

But this is just the starting month so ;)) Bear with us
 
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