Iran's Ahmadinejad doubts Sept 11 attack toll

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TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday the September 11, 2001 attacks were exaggerated in a fresh broadside at the United States just days after President Barack Obama voiced willingness to talk to Iran.

Well-known for his anti-American and anti-Israeli rhetoric, the hardline populist Ahmadinejad also repeated his denial of the Holocaust, on which the consensus of historians is that six million Jews were exterminated by Nazi Germany.


Ahmadinejad said the September 11 attacks with hijacked airliners on New York and Washington D.C. had been trumped up as an excuse for the United States to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.


Speaking at a Tehran conference, Ahmadinejad said there was no evidence that the death toll at New York's World Trade Center, destroyed in the attacks, was as high as reported and said "Zionists" had been tipped off in advance.


"What was the story of September 11? During five to six days, and with the aid of the media, they created and prepared public opinion so that everyone considered an attack on Afghanistan and Iraq as (their) right," he said in a televised speech.


No "Zionists" were killed in the World Trade Center, according to Ahmadinejad, because "one day earlier they were told not go to their workplace".


"They announced that 3,000 people were killed in this incident, but there were no reports that reveal their names. Maybe you saw that, but I did not," he told a gathering of the Iranian news media.


There is a published list of September 11 dead from more than 90 countries available online.


A total of 2,995 people were killed in the attacks, including 19 hijackers and all passengers and crew aboard four commandeered airliners, according to official U.S. figures. The United States blamed the assaults on al Qaeda, led by Saudi-born Sunni Muslim fundamentalist Osama Bin Laden.


Ahmadinejad accused the U.S. government of exercising more media censorship than anywhere in the world.


He had previously said the "9-11" attacks were a "big fabrication" and has rejected the historical record of the Holocaust. On Saturday, Ahmadinejad repeated his belief that the Holocaust had been invented to justify the creation of Israel.


"They made up an event, the so-called Holocaust which was later laid as the basis for the innocence of a group," he said.


Ahmadinejad last week challenged Obama to a televised debate on global issues during his trip to the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September.


Two years ago he asked to visit the site of the World Trade Center "to pay his respects" but New York police refused.


Washington succeeded in June in getting a fourth round of U.N. Security Council sanctions imposed on Iran to pressure it to suspend its disputed nuclear programme.


Tougher U.S. and European measures have further tightened restrictions on doing business with the major OPEC country.


Obama signaled on Thursday he was open to talks with the Islamic Republic and was seeking "a clear set of steps that we would consider sufficient to show that they are not pursuing nuclear weapons".


Ahmadinejad has said he is prepared to return to international talks, which were last held in October, but insists that Iran has the sovereign right to enrich uranium.


Western powers fear the Islamic Republic aims to stockpile the material for possible use, when more highly enriched, in nuclear weapons, and U.N. nuclear inspectors cite indications that Iran is researching how to build a nuclear-tipped missile.


Tehran says it is refining uranium only for electricity and medical treatments.


Israel considers the combination of Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial and his pursuit of nuclear technology a potential threat to its existence and has said it does not rule out military action to prevent Iran developing atomic bombs.


A Washington-based think-tank with access to intelligence said on Friday Iran had begun using recently installed equipment to enrich uranium more efficiently, a step it said could be justified nominally on civilian grounds but in fact made more sense in the context of learning how to make bomb-grade uranium.

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Ahmadinejad's an idiot. He's just trying to find ways to keep himself in the media, and in the public eye. He's an attention whore. The Holocaust clearly happened, and no one (significant) actually doubts the death toll of 9/11.

That being said, he's not entirely off-base. 9/11 was used as justification to go into Afghanistan because of the Taliban connection to al-Qaida. Frankly, in my opinion, it was completely justified for the purposes of A) reprisal, and B) removing a regressive group from power.

And 9/11 was used as justification for our military to go into Iraq. It was never explicitly stated by the Chaney regime, but they walked the American public up to that cliff with their rhetoric, and allowed us all to jump off on our own. That was a flawed logic, as we all should have learned by now. (No WMDs, no ties to al-Qaida, no ties to bin Laden.)

So, in summary, Ahmadinejad is a moron, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
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no disrespect to americans intended (for a change :wacky:) but fuck 9/11. 9/11 = just under 3000 people dead, holocaust = (over?) 6 million dead jews. he's clearly doing this for attention but his denial of the holocaust shouldnt be overshadowed by him saying "america fabricated the 9/11 attacks". in some european countries its against the law to "deny" the holocaust.

having said that i do agree with jesse that he's an attention whore. he's from an area that typically hates the western world and if our media gives him the time of day its good publicity.

even a broken clock is right twice a day.

only if its stopped. if you rip the hands off the clock or smash it to pieces it wont ever tell you a time :sad3:

gaize, 'specially you middle eastern haters...dont hate. appreciate.
 
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I'm a middle-eastern, I'd like you to show me your hatred, you little... :ahmed:


Anyway,
Ahmadinejad's an idiot. He's just trying to find ways to keep himself in the media, and in the public eye. He's an attention whore. The Holocaust clearly happened, and no one (significant) actually doubts the death toll of 9/11.

That being said, he's not entirely off-base. 9/11 was used as justification to go into Afghanistan because of the Taliban connection to al-Qaida. Frankly, in my opinion, it was completely justified for the purposes of A) reprisal, and B) removing a regressive group from power.

And 9/11 was used as justification for our military to go into Iraq. It was never explicitly stated by the Chaney regime, but they walked the American public up to that cliff with their rhetoric, and allowed us all to jump off on our own. That was a flawed logic, as we all should have learned by now. (No WMDs, no ties to al-Qaida, no ties to bin Laden.)

So, in summary, Ahmadinejad is a moron, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Couldn't put it in a better way, 9/11 attack were "merely" used as an excuse to invade other countries.

No offense to Iran people but I don't like your ideas, who knows what might happen here if Iran started bombarding Israel, I'm between these two, I'd be torn to bits if a missile miss it's target and accidentally fell on my city.

only if its stopped. if you rip the hands off the clock or smash it to pieces it wont ever tell you a time
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If the Iranians don't overthrow A. and the clerics...they will be attacked eventually..if not by the Israelis by the US...by some future republican neocon based Presidency.
The writing is on the wall for that to happen btw...
 
If the Iranians don't overthrow A. and the clerics...they will be attacked eventually..if not by the Israelis by the US...by some future republican neocon based Presidency.
The writing is on the wall for that to happen btw...

:argh: Last thing we need is another war shoved down our throats. though to fix that statement, it will either be Israel alone, or the U.S. and Israel. 9 times out of 10 I'm placing my money that Israel will involve themselves in this.
 
Yes 9/11 was used to start a war and invade countries but he's disrespecting a day that nearly 3,000 people died on. And what the hell is his excuse for denying the Holocaust? Just stupidity. I swear, if Obama "debates" with him I'll be so mad. We need to fix real problems not go around "debating" with idiots that are NEVER going to change their F'ed up ways of thinking.
 
Obama won't debate with him..
The repubs would use it to attack Obama politically..so there won't be a debate..

War with Iran is inevitable. I feel it.
I don't believe though Obama will do it..some future repub President will do it...
More billions for another war..oh well...
 
Obama won't debate with him..
The repubs would use it to attack Obama politically..so there won't be a debate..

War with Iran is inevitable. I feel it.
I don't believe though Obama will do it..some future repub President will do it...
More billions for another war..oh well...
Yeah, Obama will debate with him. I know for a fact he will. I'm hoping he won't but I can bet he will. About the war, yeah, a war is coming. When it starts is not going to be in 7 years, it's going to be in, like, two. And Obama will be the one to start it.
 
Obama won't debate with him..
The repubs would use it to attack Obama politically..so there won't be a debate..

War with Iran is inevitable. I feel it.
I don't believe though Obama will do it..some future repub President will do it...
More billions for another war..oh well...

Nah, he probably won't...not unless Iran does drop the nuke he will not do so. And if he does so, it would only be if Israel is involved.

If a republican president enters office, then it probably wouldn't matter, then again, with many of our current representatives and senators being Hawks and all. I wouldn't be surprised if we go to war with Iran...(and maybe even Syria)
 
Yeah, Obama will debate with him. I know for a fact he will. I'm hoping he won't but I can bet he will. About the war, yeah, a war is coming. When it starts is not going to be in 7 years, it's going to be in, like, two. And Obama will be the one to start it.

More likely it'll be trade sanctions. Or increased trade sanctions, if we already have a few imposed. I'm honestly not sure.

If by debate, you mean meet diplomatically to try to solve the issues without war, then yes, Obama will. As that has been his stated policy since his campaign. And clearly, discussion is preferable to war, as one causes a loss of life while the other doesn't.

Obama will not start a war against Iran unless he's backed into it by Iran threatening the use of nuclear force. The American people won't stand for it. We're already waist-deep in two conflagrations that have gone on ridiculously longer than we were told they would. To put us into a third would cause a detrimental amount of backlash against his presidency. That and we can't really afford it troop-wise, as we're already activating Reservists and occasionally National Guard troops to fill in the gaps in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Well let's just hope they don't threaten with nuclear attacks. If they do, then it's another war.
 
They don't even have Nuclear Weapons, the only country in the Middle East that does is Israel. Plus Iran are quite hard, they have a population of 70 million people, I don't think anyone will go to war with them. Israel would probably bomb their nuclear power reactors/plants etc, like they did with Syria.

I do like Ahmadinejad though, but the holocaust denial is a bit old, he needs to come up with new material.
 
Even if they did have a nuclear weapon..........there no different to other countries.

They'd only use it in their defence as well......no-one would wanna bomb their country anyway............If they do they'd just start another war.
 
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