Gold Saucer Oddity

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Does anyone else find it strange the only entrance to the Gold Saucer-sort of like FFVII's Disneyland, only with more violence and floating above an inhospitable desert prison-is in an grim shantytown where everyone lives in tents?

Think about it for a second. Those heading for Gold Saucer are probably all wealthy, and all of them are wealthy compared to the residents of Corel. You would think the visitors would be robbed and/or murdered with some frequency.

So, does anyone else think this is strange or is it just me? :P
 
that is strange, i suppose that the people of corel would be too scared of people with money that they would leave them alone. who wouldnt be scarde when the last person with money who visited them was shinra. that visit resulted in the loss of their town... i would be scared of that
 
I actually said this to my mate.
It seems the only possible way to the Gold Saucer is to venture through North Correl. Surely, Dio (Head of Gold Saucer) must know this does not promote a welcoming atmosphere.
It seems wierd that the Gold Saucer is in the middle of a desert, above a prison and it's entrance is only accesable through a 'shanty' old mining town. However, a deep message may lie amongst all this. The Gold Saucer may be a symbol of happiness. It can be found even amongst the midst of the world's most unwelcoming places.
Happiness is everywhere!

Haha, and then along came Ruby :P
 
Space Lizard said:
Does anyone else find it strange the only entrance to the Gold Saucer-sort of like FFVII's Disneyland, only with more violence and floating above an inhospitable desert prison-is in an grim shantytown where everyone lives in tents?

Think about it for a second. Those heading for Gold Saucer are probably all wealthy, and all of them are wealthy compared to the residents of Corel. You would think the visitors would be robbed and/or murdered with some frequency.

So, does anyone else think this is strange or is it just me? :P
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When I first reached Corel, then onto the Golden Saucer i did found it strange! But when I kept playing, you find out what really happened to that town. Which makes sense as to why it's in ruins, so no... I get why it is obliterated, but you would of thought they would of had more than one route to it though...
 
TheSamMan said:
When I first reached Corel, then onto the Golden Saucer i did found it strange! But when I kept playing, you find out what really happened to that town. Which makes sense as to why it's in ruins, so no... I get why it is obliterated, but you would of thought they would of had more than one route to it though...
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Does anyone know what came first, Correl or Gold Saucer?
Logically speaking, Correl probably did. As it is a village and probably has a lot of heritage due to it's mining roots. People have mined (irl) for ages.
Whereas the Gold Saucer is a Theme Park, which implies technology. This technology may have not been around say even ten years ago. The Gold Saucer was probably placed where it was long after Correl existed.

BUT... it's in the middle of a sinking sand desert. How would you build anything so big there? Maybe the Gold Saucer was there before the desert, yet deserts are 1000s of years old.

The Gold Saucer's age will always remain unknown lol.

Not too confusing Square!
:P
 
Lahl said:
Does anyone know what came first, Correl or Gold Saucer?
Logically speaking, Correl probably did. As it is a village and probably has a lot of heritage due to it's mining roots. People have mined (irl) for ages.
Whereas the Gold Saucer is a Theme Park, which implies technology. This technology may have not been around say even ten years ago. The Gold Saucer was probably placed where it was long after Correl existed.

BUT... it's in the middle of a sinking sand desert. How would you build anything so big there? Maybe the Gold Saucer was there before the desert, yet deserts are 1000s of years old.

The Gold Saucer's age will always remain unknown lol.

Not too confusing Square!
:P
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Yeah, but saying on this computer game "How can anybody build a theme park in a desert" is like saying how can anybody use magics and summons... It is a game! For our pleasure!
 
TheSamMan said:
Yeah, but saying on this computer game "How can anybody build a theme park in a desert" is like saying how can anybody use magics and summons... It is a game! For our pleasure!
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Ofc. However, even with things that do not exist, it is still plausable to question the actual realisticness of the game. We all know Cloud isn't real, yet most still question him like he does to himself.

If a game doesn't seem that believable then it's not that exciting to play.
The Gold Saucer is quite a major part of the game (Chocobo racing, Battle Square, etc) so it's not that odd to wonder how the actual place was created. Regardless if it is real or not.
 
Yep, true, I know what you mean, you could call me a hypocrite on that one mate. But... You said if something isn't beleivable then it's not exciting, FF isn't believable in the slightest...

You mean if you could just walk through a wall when your stuck or something... right?
 
TheSamMan said:
Yep, true, I know what you mean, you could call me a hypocrite on that one mate. But... You said if something isn't beleivable then it's not exciting, FF isn't believable in the slightest...

You mean if you could just walk through a wall when your stuck or something... right?
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That would be a glitch, which does not have any effect on the story. We know that Cloud's not meant to walk through walls, therefore it doesn't mean anything to me when talking about is the game believable or not.

Im more interested in the story of the game rather than the limitations of the actual game creation.

For example, Barret's got a gun on his arm. This is pretty unrealistic yet believable in the case of him and Dyne seeking revenge on the Shinra. It would be very difficuilt to craft a gun to replace someones hand yet it fits within the story mode which makes it realistic.
 
I agree and disagree with you yet again, (I bet you asn't expecting that! :P)

Both limitations and story have to go hand in hand, i.e they must both be balanced, because if they give plenty of story for example and plenty of limitations it wouldn't work all to well...

Gah, this has gone off topic, but really, do you think they should of put a lift someplace else instead of a town in the mountains?
 
TheSamMan said:
I agree and disagree with you yet again, (I bet you asn't expecting that! :P)

Both limitations and story have to go hand in hand, i.e they must both be balanced, because if they give plenty of story for example and plenty of limitations it wouldn't work all to well...

Gah, this has gone off topic, but really, do you think they should of put a lift someplace else instead of a town in the mountains?
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Yes but limitations with the game system doesn't bother me, there not intended.
However, if it was a limitation within the storyline then I would question it. Although, most FFs are able to draw you into the storyline making the unrealistic seem realsitic and the limitations become believeable.

Yet if something is not explained then it can be questioned:
TheSamMan said:
Yeah, but saying on this computer game "How can anybody build a theme park in a desert" is like saying how can anybody use magics and summons... It is a game! For our pleasure!
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For our pleasure, yes. But my pleasures (God this sounds so perverted lol) need reality behind them, even if in a tale of fantasy. I look upon the Gold Saucer as being part of the game, yet as an oddity. It is just there, no historical background is offered to explain it's existence. And as it exists amongst such an extreme environment, then it is acceptable to question it's realisticness in compariosn to the rest of the story.
 
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Lahl said:
I look upon the Gold Saucer as being part of the game, yet as an oddity. It is just there, no historical background is offered to explain it's existence.
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I've always viewed it like this... Corel town and Norh Corel were different places, a bit apart from each other.

Shinra came to Corel (the prison area) and devastated it, completely destroyed it. The survivors fled to North Corel where they set up a little shanty community there.. Or perhaps the community already existed but was in smaller gatherings than the main Corel... You should notice that the people who live in North Corel all live in tents ON the railway line.. hardly a place to start to settle years back, so was probably mainly set up or populated after the Shinra attack..

The devastated desert land of Corel was a ruin, and rich tycoons took advantage of the free land, built a theme park, and decided it to be a good idea to have the old town of Corel as a prison. In fact I've always viewed the Gold Saucer as having strong ties with Shinra. Shinra is behind most organised technological development in the game and the Gold Saucer has the same feel to it that Junon and Midgar does in it's more employee reserved zones etc.

So I've always viewed it as Shinra's attempt to show a double face to the public.. Inviting people there to enjoy themselves (to make them think that they are good), while at the same time rubbing it in the faces of the residents of Corel, who are forced to just sit by and allow this to happen... They don't want their new homes to be destroyed afterall.

And yeah about Ruby weapon... The way I look at it is that the Weapon's tended to spawn to attack places like that the most. Junon, Midgar, Gold Saucer area... The three most technologically advanced areas on the planet. It had good reason to be there... Still I think that thing was just as lost in that desert as any player that tried to escape it!
 
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Lahl said:
Does anyone know what came first, Correl or Gold Saucer?:P
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North Corral and Barret's hometown of Corral are two different places. Corral burned down and its remains make up the prison. Gold Saucer was then built apon it as it seems people in the FFVII world like to build towns ontop of other towns (Midgar, Junon). The surviving inhabitance relocated to a spot in the mountains where its likely they had a decent source of water to live on and managed to make ends met by trading or accepting charity from passing Gold Saucer customers. Thats how I see it anyways.

But yes I do find it weird that the only entrence is through a shanty town. But now I think about it more, thanks to this thread actually, is why would coal miners build a village in the middle of a desert thats hard to cross? :P
 
Moonchild said:
North Corral and Barret's hometown of Corral are two different places. Corral burned down and its remains make up the prison. Gold Saucer was then built apon it as it seems people in the FFVII world like to build towns ontop of other towns (Midgar, Junon). The surviving inhabitance relocated to a spot in the mountains where its likely they had a decent source of water to live on and managed to make ends met by trading or accepting charity from passing Gold Saucer customers. Thats how I see it anyways.

But yes I do find it weird that the only entrence is through a shanty town. But now I think about it more, thanks to this thread actually, is why would coal miners build a village in the middle of a desert thats hard to cross? :P
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That does make a lot of sense. And yeh I've just noticed that the prison used to be Corral, makes sense lol. The only question that still remains unanswered now is where the hell did the Gold Saucer come from. Argor251's post does seem logical. However, unless Square-Enix release a history of Final Fantasy VII Cities and Towns book we shall never no :mad:
This thread is getting really complex lol, soon it's gonna end up being what came first, the chicken or the egg?
:P
 
Lahl said:
The only question that still remains unanswered now is where the hell did the Gold Saucer come from.
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A muscley naked man by the name of Dio went sunbathing one day (he can walk over quicksand because he is a God) and decided he wanted to build a place where kiddies can have lotta fun and rich grown ups can gamble honour away. So he whiped out his magical stave and planted his seed. Within days a giant golden tree sprouted fourth and the Gold Saucer was established that would go on to make manya children happy for years to come.
 
Has anyone else ever thought to include the Barret/Dyne scene just beyond the Corel reactor? I remember the fire being in the middle of a forest. The Gold Saucer gets built in Corel (near a forest) in the likeness of a tree, so is made with trees. GS depletes forest, rain etc washes soil away, and you have desert. GS sinks with Corel (due to weight), forms prison. Hey presto, problem solved.

Lahl said:
soon it's gonna end up being what came first, the chicken or the egg?
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Egg. Reptiles laid eggs long before birds existed.
 
FF7Guru said:
Has anyone else ever thought to include the Barret/Dyne scene just beyond the Corel reactor? I remember the fire being in the middle of a forest. The Gold Saucer gets built in Corel (near a forest) in the likeness of a tree, so is made with trees. GS depletes forest, rain etc washes soil away, and you have desert. GS sinks with Corel (due to weight), forms prison. Hey presto, problem solved.


Egg. Reptiles laid eggs long before birds existed.
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A dessert formed within a matter of years? Hmm.

Oh, and yes. I always say the egg came first, but what if it was a chicken egg. Then what lol :P
 
lol it was weird how its in the middle of the desert and it IS weird how its right next to the ruby weapon i think it was?
 
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