FFX-2 does that shinra guy....

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basically make a driect link between x and vii? i read on wikipedia that he (or his ancestor) founds the shinra company and that basically vii takes place on spira yet years later?
 
I have absolutely no idea. I just asumed that they used the name as they reuse other names for the familiarity and whatnot....interesting theory I suppose but like, it would have to be many many years later as the whole world if different and isn't the world in VII Gaia anyway.....? Although Im not too sure >_<

Nah, I don't think its an ancestor....
 
i didn't come up with it, like i said t'was on wikipedia THE MOST RELIABLE PLACE ON EARTH (not:sarcasm)

i don't believe it myself because where the hell would the life stream come from? and would x be before or after jenova's crash?
 
Before I suppose, if it were true then at least it could explkain where all the places in X went. Zankarkand is a pretty big place to just dissappear of the map :monster:

Also as you said the lifestream. X people are sent and go to the farplane, in VII they return to the planet

It's just too different for it to be the same place, unless Shinra decided to do a bit of space travel and settle on another planet :neomon:
 
Now don't start putting stupid ideas in my head.....Shinra was a boy right....?

I'm pretty sure Jenova had a pair of boobs :wacky:
 
No. There is no relation between Shinra the Al Behd and ShinRa the electric company. They're not the same world either. No such link was ever made or even intended to be made, it's a load of crap SquareEnix dreamed up for their Ultimania guide.

You gotta remember something, all that crap SE says in their Ultimania guides is stuff they and people who worked on the games are thinking up long after the games have already been made.

For instance, according to the Ultimania guide to IX, Steiner was orphaned when he was 5 years old due to war between Lindblum, Alexandria and Burmecia. That information, while interesting, was thought up four years after the original game was published. It was never in the game, nor does it have any bearing on it. Most stuff in those guides is dreamed up after the fact and you have to take it all with a grain of salt.
 
I remember when i was watching Advent Children. The little girl was talking bout' the history of VII and she said something bout' Shinra corp. or some thing like that. >.<
 
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there is no way in hell that FFX and FFVII are related, for starters if they were X would need materia. and if they were linked don't you think the lifestream would have taken care of sin, or maybe the Weapons would have woke up to beat the crap outta Sin.
there just too different so there is no way they could possibly be related
 
There was the scene where Shinra talks about the possibilities of mining the energy found within the planet, and yes, the admission of the link between VII and X was in the interview found in the Ultimania guide. However, I can't imagine that theory was cooked up after the game was made. Why include that scene in the game then? It's a direct correlation between the two games, without actually saying it.

In the interview, whichever staff member said it, don't remember who, but he said that the thought wasn't that Spira would become the world of FFVII, but that Shinra's descendants would continue his work, and as the world developed and space travel flourished, they would find and colonize another planet, and use this world to mine what would eventually be called Mako energy.

So, the two games are definitely linked. Too much connection in the name Shinra, and his ideas on what the company Shinra would eventually do. But, I think Prince Vegeta was partly right. The space travel stuff etc. sounds to me like one staffer's opinion or how he'd imagine it, rather than anything that should be considered canon.
 
nah, i doubt it. If this theory had any possiblity to be true, than the world where we played each game was the same or it had some direct relationship. Has no one here remembered the fact that EVERY SINGLE ff game had a guy named CID? But they had no relationships. so, whats the difference here?
 
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LeonhartTidus please drop the attitude. The members are simply just discussing a theory. Do not tell people to wake up and please edit your post.
 
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FFVII and FFX is not related, maybe they just thought of naming him Shinra and I believe the company name in FFVII is called ShinRa anyway it's just a name and I don't recall seeing Sephiroth, Cetra or Jenova in Spira o_O also FFVII has something called materias to summon while FFX based on the Fayth to do the summoning so there's no way in hell they are related.
 
Like with many other references to other instalments throughout the series, it seems the developers like including these things for sentimental value; they have no real purpose nor meaning - just there for show, or a nice little 'feature'. Kain's Lance being a weapon usable by Freya in IX, and Masamune being Auron's Celestial weapon [strongest] in X being the more notable items.
 
Onceman said:
There was the scene where Shinra talks about the possibilities of mining the energy found within the planet, and yes, the admission of the link between VII and X was in the interview found in the Ultimania guide. However, I can't imagine that theory was cooked up after the game was made. Why include that scene in the game then? It's a direct correlation between the two games, without actually saying it.
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Perhaps they are connected. But even so, VII's world was never intended to link to another world. Coming up with the idea six years after VII came out (and putting it in a sequel that screwed with the original's canon, for that matter) seems more like an afterthought or blatant fan service than anything that should be taken seriously.

LeonhartTidus said:
nah, i doubt it. If this theory had any possiblity to be true, than the world where we played each game was the same or it had some direct relationship. Has no one here remembered the fact that EVERY SINGLE ff game had a guy named CID? But they had no relationships. so, whats the difference here?
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Lurid said:
Like with many other references to other instalments throughout the series, it seems the developers like including these things for sentimental value; they have no real purpose nor meaning - just there for show, or a nice little 'feature'. Kain's Lance being a weapon usable by Freya in IX, and Masamune being Auron's Celestial weapon [strongest] in X being the more notable items.
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What these guys said. There are ALWAYS references being tossed around in FF games, but that doesn't mean they're all linked to each other. Well, Dissidia might change that actually if it decides to incorporate the Void theory used to explain why Gilgamesh is the same person in every FF (except XI). Still though, that doesn't mean that every world is the same just because of references. Zidane said "no cloud nor squall shall hinder us" in a play, but that doesn't mean that he was actually making some prediction and that IX's world is VIII's.
 
Prince Vegeta said:
Perhaps they are connected. But even so, VII's world was never intended to link to another world. Coming up with the idea six years after VII came out (and putting it in a sequel that screwed with the original's canon, for that matter) seems more like an afterthought or blatant fan service than anything that should be taken seriously.
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'Afterthought' is absolutely the best way to describe this inclusion in FFX-2. I agree there's no feasible way Square was thinking to connect FFVII with another game years down the line. After watching that scene in X-2, I think it's a little thickheaded to fail to see the implication that S-E intended, but Vegeta put it best: it's fan service, and to expand on Lurid's thought, it's perhaps the most heavy-handed injection of sentimental reference to past games S-E's used.

Nothing to get hot and bothered about. Most people tend to ignore/pretend this game never existed anyway.
 
I read that the FF games all take place in the same universe and in the same timeline, rather than different or parallel universes so it's down to your own interpretation and ideas.

If you want Shinra to be an ancestor of the Shinra Company founders, then that's all good.
 
I really wouldn't be surprised really
He did talk about taking energy from the planet it self in one of the scenes, and his name IS Shinra
But in other words I really do think he has something to do with the company but there is more then that one Link between X-2 and VII after all there is a boss called King VERMIN
xD
 
Even though wikipedia says I dont think thats true because the ff7 world is called Gaia not Spira.Plus it couldnt be no way they are related.
 
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