Fan Fiction Dissidia 012 Discussion

[Terra Branford]

Right, they weren't in the game, however, they may have been around at the beginning of the 13th war. We don't know for sure what happened. There are some quotes I pointed out in an earlier post that make it sound almost like there were more Cosmos warriors at the beginning of the war than what we had in Dissidia.

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They don't exist in the game. If you add something to a game where that something doesn't exist, its changing it. We already know they were in LD before they "died/disappeared". We know that they are NOT currently be in the Last Dissidia.

It doesn't matter what happened to them, the point is they are NOT in the Last Dissidia. We will however, find out what happened to them at the end of this prequel Dissidia game.

And of course there are hints about them being the game before the 13th, we already know that from this game.

All the new characters may have been there in the beginning, but if they were "killed" or their crystals were destroyed, that could explain their absence from the events of Dissidia.

We don't need them to make an appearance in a game they were not in to know that they are absent from the Last Dissidia or to know that something happened to them.

This Dissidia (12) will explain what happens to them.

Based upon the assumption that Dissidia was not the entire 13th war, then there is still room prior to the events of Dissidia for the developers to fill in story that we don't know, thus not much change is needed to be made (expect maybe some new conversations in the Dissidia story referring to the "death" or disappearance of the new characters).

The Last Dissidia officially is the 13th war. This one releasing is the 12th. Assumptions aren't as good as what we were told. There are 13 wars, the last one they won. The last one those new Characters were not in.
(Unless Nomura and SE would like to make a whole NEW set of wars for the characters to fight in after they finished off all the wars of this series)

Again, this new Dissidia will fill in what happened to the new characters. SE/Nomura does not need to edit the story/events of the Last Dissidia to tell us what happened to Vaan, Laguna, Lightning, Yuna and Tifa. Dissidia 12 will tell us, not LD -- D12. :>

This is where we differ. I do not think anything from Dissidia will be changed drastically, such as adjusting the story to add the new characters in. I think Dissidia will stay as is, maybe with some very minor changes (probably mostly text changes).

Well, it doesn't really matter if we differ really. Changing something from its original, believe it or not, is changing it from its original therefore not making it the same game, therefore making it ret-con (if its changed the way I'm thinking Nomura/SE means of course xD). It will be making the game ret-con unless its just scenes/story for the characters that WERE in the Last Dissidia.

The only thing that I think will be different is that we'll know everything pertaining to the 13th war (since it seems like Dissidia started somewhere in the middle of the war) and what happened to the new characters that prevented them from appearing during the events of Dissidia.

Started in the middle? Where are you getting these assumptions and what are they based on? :hmm

LD is the last war according to what has been released and what we've been told (Just head over to the Dissidia forum). The game doesn't start in the middle of the war. The first game we got was the last game in the line, the last war -- 13th -- the one they finally won.

Again, we don't need SE/Nomura nor do they need to, edit the LD to show us what happened to the new characters. That's the point of this NEW Prequel. A prequel tells what happened BEFORE the story after it, in this case, that's LD.

Nada. There have been screenshots showing Vaan and Terra paired up, just like OK was paired up with Terra in Dissidia. Cloud and Terra may run into each other, but I don't think that they will normally be paired up. However, from what I have heard, there will be some parts of the story where you can choose a party.

Wow wow wow.

Just because he is with her and saves her, their are paired up? That's seems a bit...off. A lot of people are paired together, that does not make them a "pair" in the sense you are taking it as? No.

Squall and Buntz (Bartz)? Or what about Buntz and Zidane?

@_Symphonia:
Who knows. It could happen, or it couldn't happen. The Dissidia world seems to be very different than the actual games, so Cloud and Terra might happen.

And then with the fanfiction feature, which we really don't know much about yet, you could very well be able to mold that sort of interaction between them. :>

 

[bearsfwd]

We didn't see the characters actually appear in the Dissidia world at the beginning of the game. They were already there fighting. Maybe they appeared shortly before the fighting, maybe they had already been fighting for a while. We don't know for sure. If they appeared just before, then yes, we played through the entire war. If the had been fighting for a while, then that means Dissidia started somewhere in the middle of the 13th war.

Until I see them appear in the Dissidia world from their respective worlds, then go right into the CGI scene at the beginning of Dissida, then my opinion will be that Dissida picked up somewhere in the middle of the 13th war and that the new characters disappeared/died sometime after the 13th war started and Dissidia started.

And you know what, I may very well be wrong about this, and I'm well aware of the fact that I might be. But this is my opinion, and I don't need someone to tell me that my opinion is wrong even though there is no proof supporting my opinion being right or wrong. I'm not trying to change anyones opinion, but I will defend mine until there is some sort of proof one way or another.

But whatever, I'm done with this. I have better things to do than try to argue on the internet. I have reasons to believe what I believe, and it will stay that way until there is solid proof that I am wrong, and at this point, I haven't seen any solid proof.

Wow wow wow.

Just because he is with her and saves her, their are paired up? That's seems a bit...off. A lot of people are paired together, that does not make them a "pair" in the sense you are taking it as? No.

Squall and Buntz (Bartz)? Or what about Buntz and Zidane?

Wow wow wow.

I said pair, not couple. Pair does not ALWAYS mean they are a couple. It can mean they are just traveling together. What makes you think I was referring to them as couples? Seriously...

 

[Terra Branford]

We didn't see the characters actually appear in the Dissidia world at the beginning of the game. They were already there fighting. Maybe they appeared shortly before the fighting, maybe they had already been fighting for a while. We don't know for sure. If they appeared just before, then yes, we played through the entire war. If the had been fighting for a while, then that means Dissidia started somewhere in the middle of the 13th war.

And that's just what the game wanted us to see. That and that alone.

We will find out what happened to these new characters in D12. There is no need to add "what" happened to them and possible hurt LD by doing so.

But LD is the last war, it was not the middle of the war, it showed them arriving, in a way. The game didn't have much space to make explain why they appeared in LD.

Leave that part to D12.

Until I see them appear in the Dissidia world from their respective worlds, then go right into the CGI scene at the beginning of Dissida, then my opinion will be that Dissida picked up somewhere in the middle of the 13th war and that the new characters disappeared/died sometime after the 13th war started and Dissidia started.

Well then, that's not going to happen. LD is the last war, the 13th war. Its not the middle of the war. Each game has a war. LD = 13Th. D12 = 12.

That's how it is, especially from what SE/Nomura/Dteam has told us.

And you know what, I may very well be wrong about this, and I'm well aware of the fact that I might be. But this is my opinion, and I don't need someone to tell me that my opinion is wrong even though there is no proof supporting my opinion being right or wrong. I'm not trying to change anyones opinion, but I will defend mine until there is some sort of proof one way or another.

I'm not telling you you are wrong. I'm debating whether or not it will or could happen. And if you remember, you were the one who first talked to me about my opinions and thoughts on the matter, being wrong and whatnot

People debate these things all the time, it helps us guess what will happen or not.

But whatever, I'm done with this. I have better things to do than try to argue on the internet. I have reasons to believe what I believe, and it will stay that way until there is solid proof that I am wrong, and at this point, I haven't seen any solid proof.

Well there is solid proof to my impression of the game and what we know so far.

We were arguing? I thought we were discussing the possibilities to the game...but okay.

Wow wow wow.

I said pair, not couple. Pair does not ALWAYS mean they are a couple. It can mean they are just traveling together. What makes you think I was referring to them as couples? Seriously...

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Nada. There have been screenshots showing Vaan and Terra paired up, just like OK was paired up with Terra in Dissidia. Cloud and Terra may run into each other, but I don't think that they will normally be paired up. However, from what I have heard, there will be some parts of the story where you can choose a party.

The bolded made me think that first, and then the red made me think you meant it as if Vaan and Terra have paired up in the sense of "pairing" up....

This gave the impression that you were saying "nada" as in one already (a couple ) already existed.

My bad xD

 

[Rey]

I kind of wonder why I still have the first game now that they put that in the 2nd one aswell. After I import my charaters and get that accessory it is pretty useless to me

 

[Terra Branford]

I kind of wonder why I still have the first game now that they put that in the 2nd one aswell. After I import my charaters and get that accessory it is pretty useless to me

xD

I never thought about that! Wow, that's even more reason why the import feature is going to be lame. There's really no need for it...kinda takes the fun out of things if you can import a perfect character and well, doesn't really make sense that you're mega strong for a prequel and then restart for a a game after it lol

 

[Naoto Shirogane]

Oh mai. That battle watch thingy sounds quite intersting.

Also! Here some Costumes that i think SE might Make Yunas Alts.

White mage(X2)
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/ffx-2/art-019.jpg

Black mage(X2)
http://www.rpgfan.com/pics/ffx-2/art-051.jpg

Psychic(X2 Far Left)
http://pbrigitte.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/yrp_psychic.jpg?w=400&h=250

Animal Trainer(X2 The one with the doggie :3)
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs45/i/2009/130/1/a/FFX_2__Trainer_by_Elexxibux.jpg

Ok..I know your all Reading your shotguns and missles but please hear me out. There is no alternate costume for Yuna in X Besdes the Wedding dress. But that dress is LONG! So i went with Some X-2 Alter natives.

White mage: Its a white mage...Yuna=White mage. It also has Yunas staff from X. Its a perfect Alt.

Black mage: Eh...Black mage dosent really fit Yuna...but she can use black magic. and i belive thats one of her staffs.

Psychic: I really dont know why i chose this one. It just seemed...Appealing? Oyea Psychic Dresspehere=Japan only. Along with festival goer.

Trainer: Yuna=Summoner. Trainer=Trains animals. Summons = Animals. nuff said.

Other Mentions: Songstress. Gunner(Ughh) Gun mage(Ew) Concept Art. and Amano art.

Oh BTW if anyone of you suggest The Lady luck dressphere as a costume. i Will personally see that Sin destroys you. (Really...dont..It DOSE NOT FIT YUNA)


Now you can all shoot me.

EDIT: Oh im gonna try to stop obsessing over Yuna. And Credits to Dissidia Forums For givving me the white mage Costume Idea Along with the Concept/Amano art. Thankies Dissidia forums!

 

[Terra Branford]

Oh man, I thought they leaked her alts. I was like "oh my gosh!"

Psychic seems like its possible, looks like something Nomura and the team would want to have in the game and if not that one, knowing their pervy people hehee) they would probably use the animal trainer one, which I think is cool :>

 

[Rey]

In the first Dissidia I could get Terra to level 100 by just doing one easy trick. So yeah in the prequel if I impot my really overpowered Terra I hope the game will still be fun. I wont even use my Terra but can you start a new Terra as well? Ill be using Yuna and Tifa all the time.

 

[Fusionist]

I think the carry-over data is fine. Lots of games have it, and I think I might have been surprised if Dissidia didn't have it either. Also, it's up the gamer to decide to even do it in the first place

The idea of cramming the actual Dissidia game into Duodecum had me a little put off though. I can understand why they'd do it, but they already admitted Duodecim's individual story is only a fraction of the over-all game. That's my main beef, but otherwise I'm looking forward to "Dissidia Final Mix+" (c'mon, you were all thinking it xD)

And lol at the pairings thing. I myself personally go nuts and ship everybody with each other. As a quote unquote fangirl, I can admit I love the idea of Dissidia just to see how the characters interact with each other and what relationships would form.

Two more days until the conference

 

[Naoto Shirogane]

Oh man, I thought they leaked her alts. I was like "oh my gosh!"

Psychic seems like its possible, looks like something Nomura and the team would want to have in the game and if not that one, knowing their pervy people hehee) they would probably use the animal trainer one, which I think is cool :>

oops...

Sorry bout that. I tied to word my post diffrently so people wouldnt start yelling: OH MY GOD! THESE ARE YUNAS ALT COSTUMES! Guess i failed. Oh well.

If They choose psychic then i think it will be a japan onl costume. Mainly because Psychic and festival goer are japan only. If so im betting all my money on white mage/Trainer.

 

[Starships]

Vaan and Terra do seem rather 'couplely', they both seem to be holding hands together while running through the battlefield and Vaan seems to be wanting to help her out. You could easily think that they could make a potential pairing like Cloud x Terra, but Vaan x Terra being a official pairing ? no way. They haven't even kissed and Vaan has Penelo has his girlfriend. Poor Penelo, it would be like Vaan cheating on her with another women behind her back.

@ Terra Branford

I hope that you can make Terra x Cloud come together through the fan-fiction thing. It would be sweet.

 

[Terra Branford]

Well Terra is going to be lost (not in a physical sense) and stuff like that, so SE/Nomura probably wanted someone to guide her through that. I think Vaan was perfect to play that role. He's sweet and caring (or he was in 12) and seemed to care about everyone, despite him wearing really weird clothes xD
Vaan will provide a brother role I think, which will be so cute.


That would be nice, but then we'd have pairings like OKxCloud and stuff.
Oh snap, it would be awesome to have JechtxTerra or TerraxGabranth.

@ConnorTheCactuar:

Oh, you were clear about it, I just saw "Yuna alts" and fangirled xD

@Miyuki:
I don't think they'll allow you to have separate "profiles" each character. So if you import Terra at 100, you might not be able to have a new Terra at 1...

 

[Naoto Shirogane]

Well Terra is going to be lost (not in a physical sense) and stuff like that, so SE/Nomura probably wanted someone to guide her through that. I think Vaan was perfect to play that role. He's sweet and caring (or he was in 12) and seemed to care about everyone, despite him wearing really weird clothes xD
Vaan will provide a brother role I think, which will be so cute.

When did you start liking VaanxTerra? ou always said you were gonna slaughter him everytime they were in a scene together. :/

Anywho. oh ok. Well yay for fangirl/boying~

 

[Terra Branford]

I like Vaan but I don't ship them (there's not really much to ship me thinks), but sometimes he's a bit annoying because he comes off really (really) bubbly.
Well, I still don't want him touching Terra and stuff (like grabbing her arm :C)


I have a suspicion that the fanfiction feature will only be for quests...it would take up a lot of UMD space for them to create a system like gaming fanfiction and then implement it. The game would have to be really small or something for that to fit on the UMD disc...

 

[Rey]

Ugh her story mode will be just so easy then. I wont be looking forward to using a level 100 Terra and just completely acing everyone in her story. That is just boring. I have other characters at level 100 also. Ugh the import feauture is kinda cheap. I was hoping I could start a level 1 Terra even if I imported.

 

[Fusionist]

^ Carry-over/import data is usually the characters' stats in most other games-what were you expecting with the import feature?

I know I would've loved alt. costumes. I have no idea how I'm suppose to get Lightning Brea, KH Cloud, or Amano Tifa without importing the 3rd B-Day, KH BbS FM+, and grabbing Duodecim on it's first print through (also from Japan it seems)

 

[Terra Branford]

The import feature is retarded xD And now having the LD in this game, as someone else pointed out, what will be the point in owning the other Dissidia?

SE just likes adding useless stuff. That space could have been used for more characters and scenes, or something useful....

 

[Dionysos]

Any game that comes out to replace a previous game in all aspects is pretty lame. I hate games that appear to be only a small update of a previous title. They cancel out the previous title and almost make it worthless.

While it sounds like it would be great to kick-ass with imported characters, and I wouldn't exactly devote the time to mastering all characters anyway, it does seem quite pointless then to own the other Dissidia.

I'm hoping that we're just getting the wrong end of the stick with this, and there is still reason for playing Dissidia (i.e that the story of Dissidia isn't all in this new one too).

Then again, regardless of all of that, the curse of fighting games is that the newer titles effectively replace the previous titles anyway, so I guess that adding the importing features is only accepting this.

 

[Channizard]

Another version of the coverart, this time with Yuna included. Granted, it's only for the Soundtrack, bit it gives us a good idea that they can keep randomly inserting characters as they confirm them.

alas, still no Cloud or Terra.

 

[Terra Branford]

Yuna looks beautiful! Oh snap, I can't wait to play this game!

And boo-ya! This double means Terra's on the evil side! Yesh! Yesh! Finally I can obliterate the good guys with Terra! :33