[11/06] Final Fantasy XV and Kingdom Hearts III also coming to the Xbox One

[Sheechiibii]

I fail to see how putting these games on another console, where more users will be able to play it, could negatively impact sales. It's not as though people who have PS4s are going to look at it and say "OMFG it's on Xbox One as well, I'm not buying it!" regardless of how bad that system is...unless they're complete and utter morons, anyway.

But seriously, they're not going to give a damn either way. A lack of exclusivity doesn't stop people from buying games altogether; it allows more people to play them. Perhaps the cost of bringing it to the system could outweigh the benefits, but somehow I seriously doubt that is going to be the case; Xbox One deserves to crash for its draconian policies, but that isn't going to happen. When more people can access it, more can buy it, and therefore more money is made. It's not rocket science.

But I think the choice is clear either way. Buy it and own it and do whatever you want with it on PS4, or license it and never own it on the Xbox One. If you have to think about which of those two options is the better one, then you clearly don't have the intelligence necessary to play the game in the first place.

It can negatively impact sales because it costs them extra money to make a game on more than one console, and if they don't make that money back in sales then they've made a loss, which is obviously negative to their sales. What you're saying would be sensible if they could create a game for all systems without extra cost, but they can't. These things cost money, and they only get money back from sales, and if they put a game onto a platform where the sales aren't good they are taking a big risk that they might make a loss on it.

 

[José Mourinho]

People are becoming way too worried about the development cost of producing Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy XV on multiple platforms. True enough it costs more money, but Square-Enix won't be breaking the bank in doing so. There won't be the drastic graphic changes between the jump from Playstation 3 and Playstation 4 like there was between the Playstation 2 and Playstation 3, and it is well known the Xbox 360's lack of storage on the DVD compared to Blu-Ray was certainly a hindrance which has been rectified with the Xbox One. Kingdom Hearts is not a series that pushes technological boundaries so I would imagine there would be very little extra cost in producing it on multiple platforms, Final Fantasy XV may show minor graphic changes but again, the introduction of the Xbox One's Blu-Ray will certainly reduce costs significantly. In terms of sales, there won't be equal distribution, if Amazon's recent poll is taken as am example the Playstation 4 is 95% more popular than the Xbox One so Square-Enix won't produce an equal amount of copies if they won't sell, they'll produce what is needed.

 

[Razberry Knight]

People are becoming way too worried about the development cost of producing Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy XV on multiple platforms. True enough it costs more money, but Square-Enix won't be breaking the bank in doing so. There won't be the drastic graphic changes between the jump from Playstation 3 and Playstation 4 like there was between the Playstation 2 and Playstation 3, and it is well known the Xbox 360's lack of storage on the DVD compared to Blu-Ray was certainly a hindrance which has been rectified with the Xbox One. Kingdom Hearts is not a series that pushes technological boundaries so I would imagine there would be very little extra cost in producing it on multiple platforms, Final Fantasy XV may show minor graphic changes but again, the introduction of the Xbox One's Blu-Ray will certainly reduce costs significantly. In terms of sales, there won't be equal distribution, if Amazon's recent poll is taken as am example the Playstation 4 is 95% more popular than the Xbox One so Square-Enix won't produce an equal amount of copies if they won't sell, they'll produce what is needed.

Graphical changes and cosr isnt what were worried about. Its loss, and as a gamer im worried this will affect them in a way where they will not take chances again. You know, the ones actually worth doing.

 

[José Mourinho]

Square-Enix have not took chances in a long, long time, certainly not throughout the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 generation of consoles anyway; throughout that whole generation the company has become stifled. Regardless of their recent announced loses, Square-Enix have a lot of money, and it's not money that will dictate whether the company are prepared to takes chances, it's the people behind the company. Yoichi often spoke about radical changes, or in some eyes, chances. But very few of these were ever implemented, and those that were were introduced recklessly.

 

[Razberry Knight]

Square-Enix have not took chances in a long, long time, certainly not throughout the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 generation of consoles anyway; throughout that whole generation the company has become stifled. Regardless of their recent announced loses, Square-Enix have a lot of money, and it's not money that will dictate whether the company are prepared to takes chances, it's the people behind the company. Yoichi often spoke about radical changes, or in some eyes, chances. But very few of these were ever implemented, and those that were were introduced recklessly.

A few years back they laid off their composers. Were not getting them back. And now tgeir laying off people in europe and NA will orobably lay off more in The next flop. Itll get to the point to them laying off their developers or production teams such as matrix software or Jupiter.

And its not just taking a risk, its being reckless for looking at it at a bussiness point of view without considering their audience.

 

[Linnaete]

I'm more fixated on the question of why they're not bothering with a PC version of at least FFXV.

They're developing it on a PC, using PC architecture, and presumably, it will be an easy port job to the PS4 and Xbone with the very similar PC architectures, so why is the PC still being seen as the ginger stepchild by Square-Enix, with The Last Remnant being the exception? I think there are more advantages to putting something like FFXV on PC than the Xbone. You'll be opening the franchise back up again to people who might ordinarily not get the games.

 

[Millim]

I think if SE want to release KH3 on the Xpodge, they should release the HD remakes on the 360 as well. That way they get to entice new gamers and those who are fans of the series and don't own a PS3 (like me) also get the Remakes. It seems illogical to release a game that's the third in the series on a platform that haven't had the first two when it can be easily ported. But on the bright-side, us PS4ers will be laughing ten years down the line when we are still playing our copies and the XBO guys are throwing their Xbox's out the window due to it only playing "DVDs and Blu-rays."

 

[Climhazzard]

I'm stoked. The game looks amazing, the story looks dark and deep and more realistic whilst still keeping the fantasy aspect well and truly alive. I'm so happy they called it XV and removed the Etro XIII bullshit. Crystals FTW.

And please let's talk summons. Just how gorgeous did Leviathan look?! My god I want to hug it. Complete justice for having to put up with those bullshit mecha transformer eidolons in XIII.

The downside is it's not PS4 exclusive. And giving Xbox KH III was a shitty move also imo. Oh well, if they want the story they'll have to at least buy an PS3 for 1.5 HD Remix and a PSP/Vita for BBS.

 

[José Mourinho]

A few years back they laid off their composers. Were not getting them back. And now tgeir laying off people in europe and NA will orobably lay off more in The next flop. Itll get to the point to them laying off their developers or production teams such as matrix software or Jupiter.

And its not just taking a risk, its being reckless for looking at it at a bussiness point of view without considering their audience.

I don't necessarily disagree with laying off their composers, whilst it is a shame considering Square-Enix have had some great composers, I do believe they should be hiring freelancers anyway, it makes more sense from both a gaming and financial point of view. Unfortunately it tends to be the Westerners that receive the axe when it comes to jobs since they'll want to keep their home base intact. If Final Fantasy XV flops, then you're right, there probably will be more layoffs. However, it comes down to whether Square-Enix set realistic targets and get their advertising strategy spot on; they can't set a goal for example, of 15 million sales if it's wholly unrealistic on a new generation of consoles. If Kingdom Hearts III flops, which I really hope it does not, I don't think it would be a huge issue although would certainly put a big dent in the losses.

 

[Razberry Knight]

I don't necessarily disagree with laying off their composers, whilst it is a shame considering Square-Enix have had some great composers, I do believe they should be hiring freelancers anyway, it makes more sense from both a gaming and financial point of view. Unfortunately it tends to be the Westerners that receive the axe when it comes to jobs since they'll want to keep their home base intact. If Final Fantasy XV flops, then you're right, there probably will be more layoffs. However, it comes down to whether Square-Enix set realistic targets and get their advertising strategy spot on; they can't set a goal for example, of 15 million sales if it's wholly unrealistic on a new generation of consoles. If Kingdom Hearts III flops, which I really hope it does not, I don't think it would be a huge issue although would certainly put a big dent in the losses.

I think laying off their composers couldve been avoided. Regardless, laying off staff from the other branches couldve been avoided if they were smarter.

Ffxv isnt what im worried about. Im worried about kh3. I could understand wii U but xboxone? It just ruins the collection

 

[José Mourinho]

I think laying off their composers couldve been avoided. Regardless, laying off staff from the other branches couldve been avoided if they were smarter.

Ffxv isnt what im worried about. Im worried about kh3. I could understand wii U but xboxone? It just ruins the collection

I completely agree with the opinion on the layoffs, I think all layoffs could ultimately be avoided if those in the position to do so were more conscious of what is going on around them and not just having eyes on profit. Although I think the composer layoff was probably going to happen regardless of whatever financial position Square-Enix were in. I think continuously jumping from different consoles to different handhelds in general has ruined Kingdom Hearts slightly, it's fine for those who have the money, but there are probably enough people who loved the first title on the Playstation 2 but then can't afford to purchase all the handhelds needed to complete the series. I do find that very anti-consumer, so I have less issues with multiplatform than I do with jumping from handheld to handheld.

 

[Razberry Knight]

I completely agree with the opinion on the layoffs, I think all layoffs could ultimately be avoided if those in the position to do so were more conscious of what is going on around them and not just having eyes on profit. Although I think the composer layoff was probably going to happen regardless of whatever financial position Square-Enix were in. I think continuously jumping from different consoles to different handhelds in general has ruined Kingdom Hearts slightly, it's fine for those who have the money, but there are probably enough people who loved the first title on the Playstation 2 but then can't afford to purchase all the handhelds needed to complete the series. I do find that very anti-consumer, so I have less issues with multiplatform than I do with jumping from handheld to handheld.

But now kh is being recollected onto ps3. So unless they plan to port that on xbox one, itll ruin the collection. Its at the end of the series (well...the xehanort saga).

 

[Sheechiibii]

But now kh is being recollected onto ps3. So unless they plan to port that on xbox one, itll ruin the collection. Its at the end of the series (well...the xehanort saga).

The only things being recollected to the ps3 are Final Mix, 358/2 days and Chain of Memories. There's still the Coded, Birth by Sleep and Dream Drop Distance parts of the story that will be missing. So it's not like it's going to be a complete series even then. People without DS, PSP and 3DS still won't know all the parts of the story. Unless they're planning to release another compilation with the rest of the stories on it, but I doubt it. They messed up in the first place spreading them out like that.

 

[Razberry Knight]

The only things being recollected to the ps3 are Final Mix, 358/2 days and Chain of Memories. There's still the Coded, Birth by Sleep and Dream Drop Distance parts of the story that will be missing. So it's not like it's going to be a complete series even then. People without DS, PSP and 3DS still won't know all the parts of the story. Unless they're planning to release another compilation with the rest of the stories on it, but I doubt it. They messed up in the first place spreading them out like that.

The ending to kh 1.5 hinted BBs dream drop distance and kh2. So they are planning it

 

[Sheechiibii]

The ending to kh 1.5 hinted BBs dream drop distance and kh2. So they are planning it

Well that's great. That means I'll actually get KH3 Well considering they're compiling everything only on Playstation, yeah having KH3 on Xbox makes even less sense than I thought it did.