Your Idea of Paradise

[Gaige]

This isn't a thread intended to say whose Paradise is right or wrong. I'm just curious is all.

I was thinking last night, and I realized my ideal Paradise is Earth itself. It's not the constant happiness of the conventional Paradise, or the constant suffering of the conventional Hell. It's something of a balance between the two. A place where we can actually feel happiness, satisfaction and the like, but also sorrow, anger and things like that. It isn't perfect, and it isn't damnation. The reason for this being my idea of paradise is that it's unpredictable. Nothing is guaranteed, and we never get too comfortable or too tortured.

This also fits in with my belief in reincarnation, so perhaps it's somewhat convenient

So yeah, what's everyone else's idea of paradise?

 

[Ohri-Jin]

A world where humans can not taint nature or any planet at all with their filth..
I see this is a serious debate section and quite frankly I am serious lol...

There can only be paradise at places where humans dont exist.

 

[Rydia]

My ideal paradise would be sleeping forever. you know that calm and peaceful feeling you have as you fall asleep and you don't have to worry about a thing in the world? Maybe even a dreaming state where you can control everything that happends.

 

[Gaige]

That's actually quite a fascinating ideology, and one I'd agree with to an extent. Unfortunately, that's a fatal flaw with humans, and one we need to strive to correct. But I don't think we're beyond cleaning up our act and making things better.

I do like that sort of idea, Rydia. In a world where everything is in your control, you can really be happy with your own creations. I'd quite like to try it out Maybe one day something like that will be created.

 

[Ohri-Jin]

That's actually quite a fascinating ideology, and one I'd agree with to an extent. Unfortunately, that's a fatal flaw with humans, and one we need to strive to correct. But I don't think we're beyond cleaning up our act and making things better.

I hope so sir, because imo we are doomed all along..mankind has no hope..we could try to do the better thing, but only when its too late and if it doesnt cost too much money..just being realistic.. I hope we are not beyond cleaning up our act, I really do...

 

[Gaige]

I think you do have a point that we tend not to do things until the last minute. History is full of examples, such as the appeasement of World War 2. However, I really do have faith that humanity can change. There are people making an effort to treat the world with more respect, and we don't need the entire population of the world to change. We just need to make the effort. You can only change yourself. You can't force others to.

 

[Shu]

I think you do have a point that we tend not to do things until the last minute. History is full of examples, such as the appeasement of World War 2. However, I really do have faith that humanity can change. There are people making an effort to treat the world with more respect, and we don't need the entire population of the world to change. We just need to make the effort. You can only change yourself. You can't force others to.

I think humanity is only capable of change when a mass atrocity/tragedy occurs to be perfectly honest. As our newer and newer generations come, the more apathetic most folks seem to be about the well being of humanity. For instance, Muslims in America were seen as peaceful people at one time who worshiped and paid their dues to their god very respectfully. Some people had their prejudices about them, due to they were Christians or Athiests, but for the most part most folks didn't think nothing of them. After 9/11 most folks were scared shiznitless of Muslims making it another country wide witch hunt, when it was only some dickless extremists who screwed it up for everyone. Same with Japanese folks and when Pearl Harbor occured. It was the first time America had their own Concentration style camps because no one knew if their might be an uprising of Japanese people with in.

Those are only the bad things, but some good did come out of 9/11. For instance it was one of the first time most American folks had come together really since World War 2, even if it was about war. It seems in Vietnam and Korea, there was a bit of a split decision in the country. Though these are only submissions of war.

My thoughts are this.. the only time I ever see a "change" for the good in this country is 1) no extremists for some time commit meaningless genocide (good luck with that) 2) a century where no calamity occurs so that the generation sort of loses it's overwhelming prejudices. Lastly everyone likes to feel as if they have a purpose in the world. If not they seem to be on the lazy side, or tend to question everything. If somehow there was an idea to instill in folks in order to come together, which these days everything is down the middle, then maybe I could see some decent change.

My idea of paradise is.. no more overwhelming amounts of technology that seek to make us lazier. Bon Fires that light up 1/4 of a field with many folks around. Cookouts that are huge in numbers with people just there to be there, not there for any special occasion. Work days that aren't consumed around the profiteering of money, but actually working for making a bigger dent on trying to find cures for certain ailments, and faster and more efficient ways to travel (aka teleportation) - which I guess makes us lazier. The main thing is the ability to actually resolve conflict with less talk and more action, without being violent/malicious. If there is a way to do that, then maybe, but good luck I guess.

 

[GBJoker]

I know it'll be lame, or goofy, or whatever. But I'll say it anyways.

Either the Cowboy Bebop universe, or Star Wars.

Paradise to me is the ability to just hop in my space plane and be able to go virtually any where I want to go. "Eh... I feel like Mars today, and maybe next week, I'll hit Ganymede." I would just have way too much fun going where ever I wanted, and just scrapping by wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

The unfortunate part being that I'll never live to see either of those.

The good part is that I could sort of do it. Just traveling over the country (Plus other countries where I can speak the language, Britain, Japan, a slight few others...), getting odd jobs to pay for my way to where ever I happen to find myself next. I would not only feel extremely content with that, but also happy.

 

[TheMixedHerb]

I think the idea of paradise is interesting... I don't have any religious beliefs personally but i'm most certainly open to theories. Yet if asked that question I wouldn't really know what to say, I think i'd have to agree with Rydia most. Whenever i've thought of the 'afterlife' or what it contains i've always imagined it as a form of deep sleep, I don't know why. It just seems to be something i've always done.

If you'd asked what I would WANT paradise to be like, I don't think I could say that either, it's just a big mystery to me.

 

[Demon]

On some level, I want to be able to change whatever I want changed. Now the irony of it is that such a thing would just be a quest for power, and throughout history a lot of the time power corrupts and causes something opposite to a paradise.