Why there is evil in the world?

I think "Evil" is the most overused word. I'm not sure I've ever seen anything that would qualify as "evil". In fact, I'm not even sure "evil" is something humans are capable of. They are certainly capable of bad things... but not evil. Just as humans can't do holy things, nor can they do evil things. They're religious terms reserved for religious entities... not the human.

I think a lot of people see the scale as Good -> Bad -> Really Bad -> Evil. But that's not the case, in my mind. Evil is an opposing word to the word Holy. We, as people, cannot be either. We can be good or bad... but we're not capable of holy acts or evil acts, because they're "supernatural".
 
God created man god gave free will to humans. we created pollution we took away the earths natural resources we cause volcanic eruptions earthquakes tornado and tsunamis because we took what belongs to the earth not us just like adam took an apple from gods tree and that was when evil was created man created evil not god
 
No, not at all. Where'd you get that from? lol Seriously, do you know the history of how the devil was created and evil came about... according to the "gospel word". At least the version that is followed by Christians, Catholics, Jews and Muslims? Hell, you don't even really need to be a religious wiz-kid to know... just watch Dogma. lol This is the short version copied from Wikipedia:

"In modern and late Medieval Christian thought, Lucifer is usually a fallen angel commonly associated with Satan, the embodiment of evil and enemy of God. Lucifer is generally considered, based on the influence of Christian literature and legend, to have been a prominent archangel in heaven (although some contexts say he was a cherub or a seraph), prior to having been motivated by pride to lead a revolution against God. When the angel failed, Lucifer was cast out of heaven, along with a third of the heavenly host, and came to reside in the world." - Wikipedia
 
Aztec Triogal said:
"In modern and late Medieval Christian thought, Lucifer is usually a fallen angel commonly associated with Satan, the embodiment of evil and enemy of God. Lucifer is generally considered, based on the influence of Christian literature and legend, to have been a prominent archangel in heaven (although some contexts say he was a cherub or a seraph), prior to having been motivated by pride to lead a revolution against God. When the angel failed, Lucifer was cast out of heaven, along with a third of the heavenly host, and came to reside in the world." - Wikipedia
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That is highly inaccurate, and based on mistranslations and misinterpretations.
 
lol Well you were there, tell us how it went down. :P If I remember correctly from Vacation Bible School, Lucifer asked God for a Cheese melt and God gave him a cheese sandwhich. Lucifer complained that the cheese wasn't melted and God said "the microwave is right over there, do it yourself". Thus started the wars on the etheral plains which ended in God casting Lucifer and several of the angels that fought alongside him into Hell.
 
Well, to answer the queston of this thread, Greed. It consumes all of us. We're all greedy creatures and there are people who take greed to the extremes. We all strive for what we(keyword there.)want through greed. It would be impossible to have a world with no evil. Without Chaos and disorder, the world is set out of balance.
 
The evil was tied to the hearts of men ever since the origins of mankind. I say that if goodness exists, so must evil. It's a matter of balance, since you can't have one without the other. If you read the Bible, you can learn that even angels where tempted by evil and for that they were punished.Also the being known as "Satan", feared by everyone who is religious as the source of all evil, was once an angel known as "Lucifer", a name that means "Angel of Light" which is quite ironic.
 
Someone's been playing too much Kingdom Hearts...

but yea, I do agree there is a natural balance. I'm just saying, from a religiuos perspective, the "gospel word" is that Satan created the very idea of it when he rebeled against God and was cast out of Heaven.
 
Yes, it's all about balance between two opposite forces. In one hand we have good, and all that is related to it, which is: love, faith, God, and all that makes the humans happy. Then we have evil; which has deaths, killings, masacres, envy, greed, jelousy etc...

In fact, we can say that the source of evil is greed. When Lucifer, further on known as "Satan", was still an angel, he was jelous of God's power and all the respect and glory that God had.
 
Satan never rebelled against heaven, nor was he cast out of it.

There is absolutely no evidence in the Bible to indicate otherwise. All biblical evidence indicates that satan was a generic Hebrew term that applied to angels, men, and other entities, and that most of the biblical satans worked for god in various fashions.
 
technically speaking, since Christianism is but a pathetic bastardization of the religion of my people, we should look at he Judaic concept of evil



All Judaic interpretations of the qliphoth agree they are the cause of evil and suffering (see theodicy). There are kabbalistic worldviews that seek to explain evil without use of the qliphoth concept, as aspects of the sephiroth (singular: sephirah) Binah, Gevurah and Hod.
The Zohar describes the qliphoth as the result of separation necessary in the act of creation. Between two things, there must be a gap or barrier, and that is a qliphah.
In what may be the most widely-accepted teaching, they are the "[empty] husks" of "[holy] sparks" (nitzotzot) that were cast down after Adam and Eve defied God's command not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden as told in the Book of Genesis.
A Hasidic view states that in the process of creation, ten sephiroth were created, each encapsuled by a qliphah. The ten sephiroth are thought to be ten divine "enumerations" or "emanations" of God into the universe. The first set of ten qliphoth proved too weak to hold the emanating force, and the lower seven of them broke. They were replaced, but the broken former set, animated by a residue of the creative power of God, remained and conflicts with those aspects of the world corresponding to the lower seven sephiroth.
A more modern interpretation attributes the creation of the qliphoth to an inherent imbalance towards the Severity aspects of creation, which occurred either in Adam and Eve eating from the Tree of Knowledge but not the Tree of Life, or before that, in creation itself. The latter view is sometimes elaborated to state severity had to lose power to produce a balanced creation, and the excess power formed the qliphoth.
In a similar but less mystical interpretation, qliphoth come into existence whenever the powers of the sephiroth are used wrongly, and may manifest in any form, ranging from hurricanes to car wrecks to demons and other supernatural creatures.
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but I am not religious and I do not accept this definition.
What causes evil? Selfishness.
 
Tsk tsk. Your people, the ones who Christianity bastardized, are not allowed to study the kabbalah until they have memorized certain religious texts sacred to your people.

Also, women are forbidden to study the kabbalah, if I remember properly.
 
I believe that it is the use of our knowledge of good and evil coupled with our lusts and desires that causes so much problems in this world. I'm sure most if not all of use are after the same thing which is peace and rest.

Your people, Mega Girl, was and is supposed to be set apart and a beacon of light to the world. Go read the Tanakh some time and see how stubborn and rebellious your own people were. At one time, they even rejected Yahuveh as King and still do.
 
I don't know if I've mentioned this, but evil is poorly defined. If Hitler was mentally insane, and there was something wrong with his brain, would he still be considered evil? Can anyone be considered evil if they were either raised the way they were (nurture, as opposed to nature) and were completely helpless to denying the "evil" that was being spoonfed to them early in their ages of development because they lacked the knowledge or sensibility to reject it, or if they developed a mental problem, and became insane, and could not control what they were doing? If there were some cases that fall outside of these two criteria, could you consider them evil?
 
My answer,

bible says Satan was hurled down to the earth and here he roams about liking a roaring lion seeking to devour someone...and the world lies in the power of the wicked one.

Way back when Job was sick, satan told god that if he took away all the nice things he had, Job would surely defy god...therefore questioning god's sovereignty.

In order to prove him wrong, god not only let Job be put to the test, but all of us now...

and that is why there is wickeness in the world. Because god is letting Satan rule this sytem of things for the time being to show him that not everyone will turn from him.
 
The Scriblerian said:
My answer,

bible says Satan was hurled down to the earth and here he roams about liking a roaring lion seeking to devour someone
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The Bible doesn't say this. Quote me the passage.

...and the world lies in the power of the wicked one.
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Yes, but it never specifies which wicked one.

Way back when Job was sick, satan told god that if he took away all the nice things he had, Job would surely defy god...therefore questioning god's sovereignty.

In order to prove him wrong, god not only let Job be put to the test, but all of us now...
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That's a rough paraphrasing "Job" right there, that's for sure.

I can do a bit of a better Job:

The book of Job is somewhat of a mystery. It doesn't really deal with the history of Israel, and it has a strange form to it. It has a two chapter Prologue giving a grief synposis of Job's various woes, and is then followed by a long debate written in verse between Job and various others. It is entirely possible that the Prologue was written after the body of the book of Job. Of particular importance is to note that the writer of the Prologue is familiar with the satans that the Deuternoministic Historian wrote about in other books. Some theorize that the writer was in fact responding directly to the Deuternoministic Historian.

Here's the prologue:

One of the Sons of God who served as a satan came before Yahweh. Yahweh said to the satan, "Where have you come from?" The satan answered Yahweh, "From going to and fro on the Earth, and from walking up and down on it." Yahweh said to the satan, "Have you considered My servant Job?"

I'll skip the direct translation until the second chapter, and paraphrase a bit. Yahweh praises Job as a man who fears God and turns away from all that is bad. The satan advises Yahweh to test him by stretching His hand against him. Yahweh gives the satan power over all Job's goods, and fire from God destroys Job's servants and sheep, but he still blesses God.

Chapter 2:

One day Sons of God came to present themselves before Yahweh, and the satan also came among them to present himself before Yahweh. Again, Yahweh asks him where he has come from, and again the satan gives the same answer: patrolling the earth. Once more Yahweh asks, "Have you considered My servant Job?" Yahweh goes on to praise him as before, but this time HE adds, "He still persists in his integrity, although you incited Me against him, to destroy him for no reason. The satan maintains that he needs more testing, and Yahweh agrees.


Now, as you can plainly see, Yahweh is working in conjunction with one of his angels (sons of god) who serves as a satan (adversary, obstacle, or tester). In this case, the satan is an angel of god; satan is a very common term in Hebrew, and is often used to describe another man, such as when Jesus accuses Peter of being a satan in the New Testament.

What biblical indication do you have that Yahweh has sent various satans to test all of us?



and that is why there is wickeness in the world. Because god is letting Satan rule this sytem of things for the time being to show him that not everyone will turn from him.
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Can you show any biblical proof of this either?
 
Sephiroth said:
I don't know if I've mentioned this, but evil is poorly defined. If Hitler was mentally insane, and there was something wrong with his brain, would he still be considered evil? Can anyone be considered evil if they were either raised the way they were (nurture, as opposed to nature) and were completely helpless to denying the "evil" that was being spoonfed to them early in their ages of development because they lacked the knowledge or sensibility to reject it, or if they developed a mental problem, and became insane, and could not control what they were doing? If there were some cases that fall outside of these two criteria, could you consider them evil?
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Quite right - this also refers back to that "Human Evil" or "Natural/Random Evil" theory that someone [possibly me?] mentioned somewhere back in the thread.
 
I think our emotional intelligence and lack of emotional intelligence both contributed to evil. Instinct as well. When we became aware of our emotions, it gave us the ability to feel that we need things, creating selfishness. Selfishness can be found at the end of every fight because it's always someone defending something because of how they feel about it. Society has caused corruption too, but I think society is corrupted because people themselves are corrupted. When our minds become so closed, we become unaware of why we feel, but just the fact that we feel. This is selfishness, but being unawarely selfish because the selfishness is so great that we don't notice that we're causing the problems on someone else. I think that's enough rambling for now...
 
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