What are your political views?

[Axmann]

I'm sure this has been brought up before, but I want to know whether you're a Republican or a Democrat (or any other party), and whether you support Barack Obama.

I'll start off.

I'm a patriotic NRA-member, anti-abortion, conservative-as-can-be, nationalist Republican.

I absolutely despise Obama, and I believe he is not constitutionally qualified to be President of the United States. There are many questions regarding his eligibility that have not been resolved.

Besides everything else, the man is sloppy. He's a sloppy lazy pig.

I believe that George W. Bush was a good President.

Our economy, and the current "messes" of today, if you will, can be traced back to Clinton's 1st term, and the Democrats gaining majority of the senate in late 2006.

 

[blakstang98]

I was almost afraid to open this thread to see what you wrote, but I'll say that I'm quite relieved. I too am a through-and-through Republican. I'm proud to say that I voted for Bush on his 2nd term and if I could, I would have voted him for a 3rd.

I too absolutely despise Obama for many reasons. I don't think he has the qualifications to be a President either. Aside from him being a bad blend of a liberal, a socialist and a terrorist, it's clear that he doesn't show much support of our country. I feel bad for the good, innocent American people that have to suffer. When we get ravaged like the 9-11 attacks, people will then shift gears into wanting war (amazing how quickly people forget that). The guilty shall be punished, no matter how it's done. Negotiations are nice, but bad guys never listen. If history has taught us anything, it's that the bad guys will take advantage of every opportunity they get, and they have a really good one now.

Economic issues aside, I really have a problem with his terrorist support. Let's not bead around the bush in saying he would never support such a thing. I wouldn't be surprised if he went to visit another country and we get attacked then. A typical do nothing liberal I can tolerate, but terrorism support is an absolute no-no.

Anyways, I'll keep it short for now.


Edit: Well, that's all I'm going with. I understand others have their views and such, but a lot of heavy debating comes from these types of threads. I was reluctant to post because I know my views are highly disregarded and basically black-balled me in another forum (keep in mind I never flamed anyone, I just stated my beliefs). It would seem I'm getting more negative backlash for my views. I apologize if my views aren't the same as the general population, but I firmly stick to my beliefs and nothing will change my mind otherwise. I will not debate any further in any political thread. Thank you.

 

[Ethereal]

Well I'm Australian, so I really have little insight into the Democrat/Republican debate, and also Barack Obama's efficiency as President. Although I can tell you straight up, I don't support the guy at all. He's all talk. Says he's all for freedom and then steps up to announce war on innocent civilians of countries America have no right to be in the first place, and allows torture (hightened interrogation techniques, my ass) to continue. Same mistakes as the previous Administrations all over again.

However, I can't remember a President or Prime Minister of any country that I didn't feel the same way about, so it's not so different that it's Obama. Except for the fact that he's running one of the worlds most influential and biggest countries.. :/

But as for where I stand on the political scale, I don't like to hang myself in labels but the closest I fit into, would be Socialist. I am anti-war, anti-corporatism, anti-Capitalist, I am personally against Abortion.. but support the choice.
I support the continuing protection of our environment, freedom of
speech, religion, and hold human and civilian rights very sacred. I'm pretty leftist on the scale of things.

There are many questions regarding his eligibility that have not been resolved.

I very much second that statement. There are a lot of questions revolving the issue that I'd like settled.

 

[Donald Trump]

I'm an anarcho-communist.
I believe that the aristocracy should be shot and that the bourgeois be forced to work. I believe that the assets of the rich should be shared out equally amongst everyone, excluding the rich who, like I said before I think should be shot.
I despise any form of social conservatism, we don't want to change the lightbulb, we want to smash it, not that I'm fond of chanting slogans.
I think Bush was a terrible president, who thought he had the right to interfere in other countries, which is oddly enough a conservative view. I don't think Obama goes far enough, he bails out American car firms. These firms represent the absolute pinnacle of ineptitude, they can't compete and can't make a profit. He should have nationalised them imo.

 

[Axmann]

I'm an anarcho-communist.
I believe that the aristocracy should be shot and that the bourgeois be forced to work. I believe that the assets of the rich should be shared out equally amongst everyone, excluding the rich who, like I said before I think should be shot.
I despise any form of social conservatism, we don't want to change the lightbulb, we want to smash it, not that I'm fond of chanting slogans.
I think Bush was a terrible president, who thought he had the right to interfere in other countries, which is oddly enough a conservative view. I don't think Obama goes far enough, he bails out American car firms. These firms represent the absolute pinnacle of ineptitude, they can't compete and can't make a profit. He should have nationalised them imo.

Hmm...

I'd like to take a moment to fiercely and vehemently disagree.

Another thing: I hate how Democrats always pretend like they are the only ones who know how to be logical. It's so ironic, considering that they possess the most illogical and aberrant views that I have ever witnessed in a group of people.

Some Republicans, though, make the rest of Republicans look very bad. It's really a shame that so many republicans, since they are mostly conservative, like to stay out of political contention.

I, for one, am probably the most active member of my city, possibly even my county, when it comes to politics, and I just so happen to be a conservative Republican.

 

[Rockman X]

I absolutely despise Obama, and I believe he is not constitutionally qualified to be President of the United States. There are many questions regarding his eligibility that have not been resolved.

I don't think you have any understanding of the Constitution.

Besides everything else, the man is sloppy. He's a sloppy lazy pig.

Erm...what?

I believe that George W. Bush was a good President.

You do realize that man was a puppet for Dick Cheney and Rumfeld and helped them fuck our country over royally? Not just the war in Iraq (shoulda just stayed in Afghanistan), but things like making our public education system even worse with the No Child Left Behind Act too. Bush was a good president? Yeah, and Lord Xenu is real and we're all inhabited by the souls of dead aliens.

I too absolutely despise Obama for many reasons. I don't think he has the qualifications to be a President either. Aside from him being a bad blend of a liberal, a socialist and a terrorist, it's clear that he doesn't show much support of our country.

Oh you.

Now to the topic at hand, I'm neither. Both parties have alot of flaws, so I don't bother associating with one or the other. I pretty go for whoever I think will do a better job at things, don't care what party they are.

 

[Donald Trump]

Hmm...

I'd like to take a moment to fiercely and vehemently disagree.

Another thing: I hate how Democrats always pretend like they are the only ones who know how to be logical. It's so ironic, considering that they possess the most illogical and aberrant views that I have ever witnessed in a group of people.

That's your opinion, perhaps democrats may feel the same way about your views.

Some Republicans, though, make the rest of Republicans look very bad. It's really a shame that so many republicans, since they are mostly conservative, like to stay out of political contention

The same can be said about any political party. However if a party accepts people who make them look bad, like the conservative party in the UK did with Lord Archer, then some blame has to be based on the party itself.

I, for one, am probably the most active member of my city, possibly even my county, when it comes to politics, and I just so happen to be a conservative Republican

That's commendable. But being so active you would have had to work with some democrats right? To do that you'd have to find some common ground right? To acheive anythng you're going to need a little bit of give and take, which would mean some compromise in terms of your ideas?

 

[Axmann]

If I may, I would like to point out the offensive nature of Rockman X's replies.

Certainly the moderators are not attacking me for being offensive when another member gets by with the exact same thing, correct?

Also, quite interesting that I have received negative reputation for following the rules =\

 

[Serah]

No, you may not because the only thing you're doing is shit-stirring. RockmanX knows that it's time to calm down. That post was written BEFORE (yesterday I might add) it was asked of all of you to calm the fuck down, but you still continue with your irrelevant nonsense. I hope you like your infraction. You've seemed to want it so. Also, no you have not followed the rules or taken proper procedure in appropriate complaint handling. As for the neg-rep, that's YOUR own fault. People are more than entitled to neg rep you all the want as you're doing this just to provoke people and upset them. Please, continue to keep it up. I can just happily ban you and your IP. You won't be allowed back anytime soon.

 

[Sir Kenneth]

My political compass is all over the place really. Some of my views are a bit totalitarian, and some would probably say bordering on fascism, whereas I am quite liberal when it comes to other areas.

I'm very critical of western democracy in it's current form, which seemed to have devolved into a sad combination of mob rule and corporate lobbyism. There's no longer any room in the political system for people with real vision. Unpopular decisions, however beneficial they may be, are never implemented because politicians are more concerned with being elected for another term than they are with doing what's good for the country. Positive, revolutionary changes to the system are near impossible to implement in a system where the legislators only think 4 years ahead maximum. I do confess though, that I'm short on plausible alternatives. a benevolent, Machiavellian dictator would be preferable, but highly unlikely. Unless of course you all join the revolution and put ME in power. Trust me, it would do the world a lot of good

As far as abortion goes, I'm pro-choice. I do however think there's a need to raise some public awareness on the issue. Having an abortion can be a traumatic ordeal, and the number of abortions performed every year should be limited through public awareness campaigns for safe sex targeting the entire adult population. Not just highschool students.
There should also be proper psychiatric council at hand. Not only for the women who choose to go through with such a procedure, but also to help them with the decision.

I'm pro capital punishment, but only in the most extreme of cases. When someone does something that is so horrible that they are to be considered beyond human and beyond all rehabilitation, I think it is our duty as a society to rid ourselves of them permanently. Bear in mind though, this might only be 1 out of a 100 or 1 out of 500 people convicted for murder.
If a drug addict panics during a drug store robbery, and shoots the clerk dead, they are not beyond rehabilitation and do not deserve death. If someone rapes, mutilates, and murders 50 children and bury them in his backyard, then put him in the chair.

As far as gun control goes, I'm on the middle of the fence. People who live in rural areas with no neighbours within close vicinity, and the law enforcement far away, should be allowed to own a firearm for their own protection. I do think it should be limited to 1 for every adult in the household though, and limited to small firearms only. There's no need to amass enough merchandise to equip your own guerilla army.
The cities and suburbs should be kept free of guns though. Hunters should be allowed to keep firearms within cities, limited to hunting rifles and safely locked up.

I don't like Obama, but I didn't like Bush any better. The American democracy is the least democratic of all, giving people only 2 real alternatives. Both which would never have been nominated by their respectful parties if they weren't tailored to play ball with the industry that actually runs things in the land of the free. Despite of all the changes Obama has promised, fact is that 99% of his campaign contributions came from the same people that gave money to Bush's campaigns. And when the jig is up, it is the exact same people he will have to pay tribute to.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...

 

[Shu]

Eh, Bush was the worst president, besides Nixon, Clinton, and Johnston this country has seen. Sorry dudester, the economy is the way it is because of him. Of course we are primarily to blame, and yes this would of happened sooner or later, but with the war funding at an ungodly amount, it made it approach astronimically quicker.

The man was a financial retard, and the only thing he had going for him was his speaking skills, and even those faultered from time to time.

So on topic with this.

I am neither a Republican or a Democrat. I hate what the democrats stand for and I don't trust republicans for a quick second either. I do like Barack Obama, but I don't quite know if he is the right leader for us yet. No it isn't because of his color, it is because of his lack of expertise. He's young and has the media backing him, but besides that I just pray he comes through for us in the next 3 years.

What people don't see is that it will take a HUGE joint effort to fix this country. We honestly have to melt the system down, and throw out the books and start again if we want to get anywhere. We hold on to our past way to much. From the Revolution to the Civil War and then to Pearl Harbor, I believe it made who we are today, but I don't think people will ever get past eachothers differences because of it.

The hardest thing to do in the next three years will be coming together. It will not be done in my opinion, but if it is I see great things for this country. If not, I see America as we know it going down a sink hole to be honest. We are a nation divided right now, and that is why choosing to be a Republican or a Democrat is down right retarded.

 

[Axmann]

Eh, Bush was the worst president, besides Nixon, Clinton, and Johnston this country has seen. Sorry dudester, the economy is the way it is because of him. Of course we are primarily to blame, and yes this would of happened sooner or later, but with the war funding at an ungodly amount, it made it approach astronimically quicker.

The man was a financial retard, and the only thing he had going for him was his speaking skills, and even those faultered from time to time.

So on topic with this.

I am neither a Republican or a Democrat. I hate what the democrats stand for and I don't trust republicans for a quick second either. I do like Barack Obama, but I don't quite know if he is the right leader for us yet. No it isn't because of his color, it is because of his lack of expertise. He's young and has the media backing him, but besides that I just pray he comes through for us in the next 3 years.

What people don't see is that it will take a HUGE joint effort to fix this country. We honestly have to melt the system down, and throw out the books and start again if we want to get anywhere. We hold on to our past way to much. From the Revolution to the Civil War and then to Pearl Harbor, I believe it made who we are today, but I don't think people will ever get past eachothers differences because of it.

The hardest thing to do in the next three years will be coming together. It will not be done in my opinion, but if it is I see great things for this country. If not, I see America as we know it going down a sink hole to be honest. We are a nation divided right now, and that is why choosing to be a Republican or a Democrat is down right retarded.

Actually, the economy is not the way it is because of Bush.

Congress and the Federal Reserve System are the ones that have control over federal funds.

Bush (as well as Obama) didn't (and don't) have control over one single cent of federal money. The President of the United States lacks the authority to regulate monetary and/or fiscal policy, so it is impossible for Bush to do anything to the economy without Congress' approval.

And also, if you would take notice: as I have said previously, the economy was doing fine until Democrats gained control of Congress in late 2006. Now that we have even more Democrats in congress (nearly, if not, a filibuster proof majority), they will only continue to further ravage the economic state of our country.

Also, congress has to approve declarations of war, so Bush isn't to blame for that either; congress is.

Also, I would like to point out that everyone is human, and you just spelled "faltered" wrong while criticizing Bush for faltering communication skills, which is a bit of an "I just nullified my point" statement.

 

[Donald Trump]

Also, I would like to point out that everyone is human, and you just spelled "faltered" wrong while criticizing Bush for faltering communication skills, which is a bit of an "I just nullified my point" statement.

No it's not.

Your economy is almost totally free market, therefore slumps are inevitable. The idea that democrats gaining control of congress caused it in anyway is laughable. Unless of course you can prove that this lead to corporate greed and made people go back in time and lend money to people who won't be able to pay it back.

Also, congress has to approve declarations of war, so Bush isn't to blame for that either; congress is.

A Republican congress voted yes on the resolution that Bush requested. It was his doing.

 

[Nalaar]

Well I'm Australian, so I really have little insight into the Democrat/Republican debate, and also Barack Obama's efficiency as President.

I have little insight into his ability to shit without permission, much less run a country.

Although I can tell you straight up, I don't support the guy at all.

He does not need my support. He needs and desires to go the fuck home unscathed.

He's all talk.

He reads a teleprompter.

Says he's all for freedom and then steps up to announce war on innocent civilians of countries America have no right to be in the first place, and allows torture (hightened interrogation techniques, my ass) to continue.

He got the memo, sans discussion segment.

Same mistakes as the previous Administrations all over again.

1. Kill one individual, its murder. Kill 1 million its foreign policy. (paraphrased cuz i likez it better!)

2. Its funny how Administrations are so high on the media totem pole they could not even get Admin status on this board.

However, I can't remember a President or Prime Minister of any country that I didn't feel the same way about, so it's not so different that it's Obama.

And I am sure no president at least, sits and lingers longingly on the red, white, blue, iron and lead smorgasbord inauguration Day brought him either. Masses waving his banner...with a cheesy ass slogan he had no part in. How do I know? Are any of you here willing to say if you were running for president, thats all you could come with? "Yes we can!" Like something peeled off a Fleet Enema commercial. "It doesn't matter what it says! Yes, we can get them to say it!"

Except for the fact that he's running one of the worlds most influential and biggest countries.. :/

Its true, my friend. We are a fucking mapdot that managed to bribe the UN into hovering the "bloat" tool in photoshop over our blessed image, and flannelgraph our new resize onto the television screen, so that we might kick in the door of "grudge fucking" countries complaining we had a nightmare and demanding we either snuggle in between or be tucked back into the night night hole with a warm glass of oil. The U.S. government reminds of an infant who slightly lifts its butt to let you know you need to keep patting after you think its finally asleep. And the lift is heard and felt from the West to the East of the globe.

But as for where I stand on the political scale, I don't like to hang myself in labels but the closest I fit into, would be Socialist.

I am paleo-conservative. Problem is someone keeps looting the fossilized rights we put on display for the public.

I am anti-war, anti-corporatism, anti-Capitalist, I am personally against Abortion.. but support the choice.

yup. nuff said.

I support the continuing protection of our environment, freedom of
speech, religion, and hold human and civilian rights very sacred. I'm pretty leftist on the scale of things.

You sound more like you would be Paleocon.

I very much second that statement. There are a lot of questions revolving the issue that I'd like settled.

Start a blog and settle it. Use your rights while they still apply to the internet. I will defintely read.

 

[The Illusive Man]

My political views?

I believe every person has a voice and a vote, unfortunatley the problem with politics is every persons voice seldom gets heard, or they are repeatedly lied to by extremely corrupt and powerhungry governments and individuals, all making promises they never intend to keep.

The biggest issue with politics....is just that...politics is its own biggest issue, they do a lot of talking and not a lot of acting nowadays, theres too much "babystepping" around issues that need to be addressed and not enough hardline action that people want to see.

Personally I feel democracy in its current state is heavily flawed, if you have the money and the contacts, you can get into politics and if your charsimatic enough you can make it as a cabinet minister, and if your a Liar then possibly the PM's job.

They need to rebuild the entire system and make it more balanced and begin to champion core values above core prices, put people in positions of power that have shown they deserve it through merits within the community, not a bunch of policies that will never happen.

And above all give the power back to the people, if a ruling cabinet is corrupt, give US the choice to call for an election, NOT THEM!

just my 2 cents

 

[Vladislak]

Democrat? Republican? I don't think any human beings beliefs can be summed up in a single word like that.

I don't support any politicians, if I want to support the things I believe in I don't turn to someone else. If I truly want to support a cause then I'll act upon it myself, it may not produce any results at all but I feel that I can't say they're my beliefs if I don't take ownership of them and act accordingly.

I'm not just going to support a stranger because he/she and I share the same beliefs, I only support people if I respect them as a human being.
That's not to say I don't respect politicians, but I can't really respect someone I've never actually met.