Sephiroth's Will
Endless Despair
I dont know it just boggles my mind.
Revenge
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yups I know dat... unfortunatly I know some of those kinds of people and have to deal with them every day...
Revenge is a double edged sword. While it can bring great satisfaction and the feeling of bringing justice, it can also poison your soul once you get used to it.
Warrior of Light
Be a Survivor; not a Statistc
First of all, I'm sorry for your brother. That's a terrible thing to go through. I'm glad to hear he's doing okay. *hug*
I'll be honest I'm not in favor of retaliation mainly because it usually results in a cycle. They beat up your brother, you beat them up and then they go to beat you up. Like the saying: Around, around she goes, where it stops...nobody knows! I can understand anger and a desire to find retribution but that kind it's healthy for you. Try channeling your energy into helping your brother through this so that something productive comes of it.
As to why this people do this I can only say that that's something I don't think I'll ever fully understand. *sighs*
I'll be honest I'm not in favor of retaliation mainly because it usually results in a cycle. They beat up your brother, you beat them up and then they go to beat you up. Like the saying: Around, around she goes, where it stops...nobody knows! I can understand anger and a desire to find retribution but that kind it's healthy for you. Try channeling your energy into helping your brother through this so that something productive comes of it.
As to why this people do this I can only say that that's something I don't think I'll ever fully understand. *sighs*
Sephiroth's Will
Endless Despair
thanx for the hug. i apreciate what yourew saying but when it happened all the rage and hate i have inside me just exploded and all i could think of was violence. but thanx to my friends Garnet and Tidus i was able to calm down and rationalize.
Warrior of Light
Be a Survivor; not a Statistc
That's understandable. We all get like that times. I'd be a hypocrite if I acted otherwise. That's why people who are the injuried party best need to get a chance to think over things before acting. Impulse is strong and that's why we need to be stronger than it.
I hope your brother sees a swift recovery.
I hope your brother sees a swift recovery.
Kajie
ShinRa Guard
Sorry about your brother, by the way.
And I hope he's okay now.
I'm not in favor of retaliation either.
But sometimes people do things out of anger, especially when it comes to family. Just like me for example..
One day, my little bro was driving his bicycle, then suddenly he bumped into something. He was lying on the floor, and there were these bunch of college guys laughing at him instead of helping him, when I came. Out of anger, I told them that it's better to help than to laugh at someone who's hurt. But when they still laughed, I threw them my ice candy and hit one of the guys on his forehead. Then they stopped laughing. I don't care what they'd do about it (at that time) as long as I make my point. I'm not gonna go backing up to them. (No way! It's my brother they're laughing at..<_<) But instead of fighting me, they decided to go where they are supposed to go.
The story I just gave is not giving you the idea to go and have your revenge, but to think about it first... That's one thing I didn't do when I was blinded by my anger. Remember, that your brother's story is different from mine. And it may not be that easy. Thinking about it now, I consider myself lucky for not being beaten by college guys or worse.(I don't want to think of something worse
)
So, for me, it would be better to not go and retaliate.
What if anything happens to you? You'll just be hurting your brother again...
Think about it...
And I hope he's okay now.
I'm not in favor of retaliation either.
But sometimes people do things out of anger, especially when it comes to family. Just like me for example..
One day, my little bro was driving his bicycle, then suddenly he bumped into something. He was lying on the floor, and there were these bunch of college guys laughing at him instead of helping him, when I came. Out of anger, I told them that it's better to help than to laugh at someone who's hurt. But when they still laughed, I threw them my ice candy and hit one of the guys on his forehead. Then they stopped laughing. I don't care what they'd do about it (at that time) as long as I make my point. I'm not gonna go backing up to them. (No way! It's my brother they're laughing at..<_<) But instead of fighting me, they decided to go where they are supposed to go.
The story I just gave is not giving you the idea to go and have your revenge, but to think about it first... That's one thing I didn't do when I was blinded by my anger. Remember, that your brother's story is different from mine. And it may not be that easy. Thinking about it now, I consider myself lucky for not being beaten by college guys or worse.(I don't want to think of something worse
)So, for me, it would be better to not go and retaliate.
What if anything happens to you? You'll just be hurting your brother again...
Think about it...
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Guardian of Selfhood
Chocobo Breeder
I am really, reall sorry to hear about that. That sucks. Thost bastards had no right to do that to your brother. That's dispicable.
And about the law, yes, they are absolutely bloody useless. I was threatened by a gang last year along with my partner. There were 4 of them and only two of us. One was quite big (whether it was fat, muscle, or a combination I don't know), and he pushed into us. Thankfully, they did not hurt us seriously, but I was pretty terrified at the time. I came very close to lashing out in self-defence and smacking them back or trying to bite them, which I would've done if they kept following us or stopped us leaving. I wish I had been stronger though, next time someone uses physical force against me I will hit back in self-defence, I certainly will not take that crap again that's for sure. I will fight back regardless of the consequences, I have to protect myself. So help me God.
Point is, I called the police. Were they helpful? NO! They were hopeless. Utterly hopeless. I appreciate they have a tough job and they are overwhelmed. And they do produce results (occasionally) but in this case they were not helpful whatsoever. The policewomen I spoke to when I called 999 (the emergency number in Britain) was very rude and unhelpful. She questioned me, even though it was clear I had just been threatened and intimidated; she still grilled me instead of listening to what I said or dispatching a police car.
I arranged to meet the police at my house after I got away so that they could record it and ask me questions. Did they show up? No! They didn't, even though I had just been threatened and intimidated. On top of that, I gave a statement about the event, spilled my guts out to them, only to find out the security cameras at the station, which may have recorded the event were not working. If the police had hurried up and got their act together, they may have caught the bad guys. They were hopeless.
I can't blame you for not having faith in the so-called 'justice' system. We live in tough times, when the police won't look after decent law-abiding citizens as probably as they should do. How often have you seen police patrols at night? I bet not as often as they should be patrolling. The polcie need to get their act together, I agree with you there.
Chances are you won't see these arseholes who did this to your brother again.I can't blame you for wanting revenge on them, hopefully they will get their commeupance. If they threaten either you or your brother again, they retaliating in self-defence is fine but revenge isn't always the best strategy. They should be rotting in jail for attempted murder, I agree with you there. And bullying a 12 year old like that is disgraceful. These people deserve, quite frankly, to be stabbed in the stomach and to have their guts spill out onto the streets or to be beaten up badly by another gang themselves, just so they know how it feels. I keep having revenge fantasies of retaliating against those arseholes who hassled me and my boyfriend in the station i can't blame you for wanting revenge.
However, having said all that, I don't think it's worth going after them seeing as you will be endangering yourself. Try to do things by the law or put pressure on the authorities to act against this sort of thing. Having said what I said about the law, the best thing to do would be to get revenge by getting legal. Don't let it lie down.
Personally, I don't think carrying weapons in self-defence is such a bad idea. I have often thought about doing it myself. True, it's illegal; but do these thugs play by the rules? Hell no. I want to be able to fend for myself and I don't want to be unarmed when some cowardly gang come after me. A weapon would level the playing field and might just discourage some attackers.
Sorry if this sounds like a terrible thing to say but I've had it with these gangs.
And about the law, yes, they are absolutely bloody useless. I was threatened by a gang last year along with my partner. There were 4 of them and only two of us. One was quite big (whether it was fat, muscle, or a combination I don't know), and he pushed into us. Thankfully, they did not hurt us seriously, but I was pretty terrified at the time. I came very close to lashing out in self-defence and smacking them back or trying to bite them, which I would've done if they kept following us or stopped us leaving. I wish I had been stronger though, next time someone uses physical force against me I will hit back in self-defence, I certainly will not take that crap again that's for sure. I will fight back regardless of the consequences, I have to protect myself. So help me God.
Point is, I called the police. Were they helpful? NO! They were hopeless. Utterly hopeless. I appreciate they have a tough job and they are overwhelmed. And they do produce results (occasionally) but in this case they were not helpful whatsoever. The policewomen I spoke to when I called 999 (the emergency number in Britain) was very rude and unhelpful. She questioned me, even though it was clear I had just been threatened and intimidated; she still grilled me instead of listening to what I said or dispatching a police car.
I arranged to meet the police at my house after I got away so that they could record it and ask me questions. Did they show up? No! They didn't, even though I had just been threatened and intimidated. On top of that, I gave a statement about the event, spilled my guts out to them, only to find out the security cameras at the station, which may have recorded the event were not working. If the police had hurried up and got their act together, they may have caught the bad guys. They were hopeless.
I can't blame you for not having faith in the so-called 'justice' system. We live in tough times, when the police won't look after decent law-abiding citizens as probably as they should do. How often have you seen police patrols at night? I bet not as often as they should be patrolling. The polcie need to get their act together, I agree with you there.
Chances are you won't see these arseholes who did this to your brother again.I can't blame you for wanting revenge on them, hopefully they will get their commeupance. If they threaten either you or your brother again, they retaliating in self-defence is fine but revenge isn't always the best strategy. They should be rotting in jail for attempted murder, I agree with you there. And bullying a 12 year old like that is disgraceful. These people deserve, quite frankly, to be stabbed in the stomach and to have their guts spill out onto the streets or to be beaten up badly by another gang themselves, just so they know how it feels. I keep having revenge fantasies of retaliating against those arseholes who hassled me and my boyfriend in the station i can't blame you for wanting revenge.
However, having said all that, I don't think it's worth going after them seeing as you will be endangering yourself. Try to do things by the law or put pressure on the authorities to act against this sort of thing. Having said what I said about the law, the best thing to do would be to get revenge by getting legal. Don't let it lie down.
Personally, I don't think carrying weapons in self-defence is such a bad idea. I have often thought about doing it myself. True, it's illegal; but do these thugs play by the rules? Hell no. I want to be able to fend for myself and I don't want to be unarmed when some cowardly gang come after me. A weapon would level the playing field and might just discourage some attackers.
Sorry if this sounds like a terrible thing to say but I've had it with these gangs.
Sephiroth's Will
Endless Despair
Chances are you won't see these arseholes who did this to your brother again.I can't blame you for wanting revenge on them, hopefully they will get their commeupance. If they threaten either you or your brother again, they retaliating in self-defence is fine but revenge isn't always the best strategy. They should be rotting in jail for attempted murder, I agree with you there. And bullying a 12 year old like that is disgraceful. These people deserve, quite frankly, to be stabbed in the stomach and to have their guts spill out onto the streets or to be beaten up badly by another gang themselves, just so they know how it feels.
i agree with pretty much all the things you said here...but in fact i know the people who did this very well thats why it made me as mad as it did. if it were some random incident i probably would have calmed down alot quicker but where as i know the people who did it ....it lingers with me still.
i agree with pretty much all the things you said here...but in fact i know the people who did this very well thats why it made me as mad as it did. if it were some random incident i probably would have calmed down alot quicker but where as i know the people who did it ....it lingers with me still.
Right there, the one in bold. Karma. It's all about Karma, no...you should not do anything about it.
70sguygx
Chocobo Breeder
Put'm in the ground:devil: !
OmniscientOnus
Blue Mage
As a disclaimer to this post: I in no way condone the use of physical violence nor the use of any form(s) of communication other than their intended use. In no way is this post meant to be a guideline, suggestion, or anything other than mere rambling. I do not endorse the engagement in any activity that may be deemed unlawful, or inhumane. This post is for entertainment purposes only and should not be viewed as otherwise... yatta yatta yatta.
With that said, here's what I think:
First of all, despite the differing opinions, there is some really good advice already posted here. If you were to, indeed, injure your brother's assaulter's, you would risk incarceration and would therefore be removing yourself from your brother and would no longer be able to properly protect him.
On the other hand, if you do not retaliate, you will have allowed evil to take place unpunished. We should not be idle in the presence of evil. It is your duty to smite your enemies, and protect your family. But keep ever in mind that there is a right way to do things, and a wrong way. In the case of physically injuring a minor, or a group of minors, there is always an elevated risk, and, as the duration between incident and reaction lengthens, punishment (should you be caught) will surely increase. Your best bet would have been to have immediately hunt down the assholes you injured your brother and to have given them a beating they will have never forgotten. You should have broken one bone for every year there is in difference between them and your brother. While, in this instance, murder clearly would not be the right course of action... well, lets just say, an eye for an eye.
If in fact you are still undecided as to your course of action, my advice would be to lay low for awhile. Keep an eye on your brother, and a closer eye on the people who injured him. Look out for things that look suspicious, things that may be lead you to believe they intend to hurt someone again. If such suspicions arise, follow them and see where it leads you. Perhaps one day you will stumble upon them beating on another youth and you will then be able to step in and legally defend whoever they are attempting to hurt while still having your revenge. At the end of the beating, perhaps whisper to them that you haven't forgotten what they did to your brother. Let them know the true reason for the pain you have inflicted on them, without giving them any credible proof that you only harmed them as a form of revenge.
Always do your best to keep yourself out of trouble. There are more ways than the obvious straight path to any given solution. The longer you stay on the side of the law, the easier it will be to protect your brother.
And, if physical retaliation is not a viable solution (ie - your brother insists that he does not want you to get involved), you can always f**k with their heads. I hear threatening phone calls from anonymous numbers are very sketchy for the police to deal with (I know from experience, my girlfriend was a victim. I use the word was for a purpose here... lets just say I found a way to make it stop. Google-ing a phone number can give you a surprisingly large database about a person... and their friends, and family, and what not). Make them fear for their lives every time they step out of their house. Deprive them of sleep, make them believe that there is reason to fear, and let fear do the work for you!
The mind is an easily manipulated thing, use that to your advantage.
And, just to be saf...er, clear on this:
As a disclaimer to this post: I in no way condone the use of physical violence nor the use of any form(s) of communication other than their intended use. In no way is this post meant to be a guideline, suggestion, or anything other than mere rambling. I do not endorse the engagement in any activity that may be deemed unlawful, or inhumane. This post is for entertainment purposes only and should not be viewed as otherwise... yatta yatta yatta.
With that said, here's what I think:
First of all, despite the differing opinions, there is some really good advice already posted here. If you were to, indeed, injure your brother's assaulter's, you would risk incarceration and would therefore be removing yourself from your brother and would no longer be able to properly protect him.
On the other hand, if you do not retaliate, you will have allowed evil to take place unpunished. We should not be idle in the presence of evil. It is your duty to smite your enemies, and protect your family. But keep ever in mind that there is a right way to do things, and a wrong way. In the case of physically injuring a minor, or a group of minors, there is always an elevated risk, and, as the duration between incident and reaction lengthens, punishment (should you be caught) will surely increase. Your best bet would have been to have immediately hunt down the assholes you injured your brother and to have given them a beating they will have never forgotten. You should have broken one bone for every year there is in difference between them and your brother. While, in this instance, murder clearly would not be the right course of action... well, lets just say, an eye for an eye.
If in fact you are still undecided as to your course of action, my advice would be to lay low for awhile. Keep an eye on your brother, and a closer eye on the people who injured him. Look out for things that look suspicious, things that may be lead you to believe they intend to hurt someone again. If such suspicions arise, follow them and see where it leads you. Perhaps one day you will stumble upon them beating on another youth and you will then be able to step in and legally defend whoever they are attempting to hurt while still having your revenge. At the end of the beating, perhaps whisper to them that you haven't forgotten what they did to your brother. Let them know the true reason for the pain you have inflicted on them, without giving them any credible proof that you only harmed them as a form of revenge.
Always do your best to keep yourself out of trouble. There are more ways than the obvious straight path to any given solution. The longer you stay on the side of the law, the easier it will be to protect your brother.
And, if physical retaliation is not a viable solution (ie - your brother insists that he does not want you to get involved), you can always f**k with their heads. I hear threatening phone calls from anonymous numbers are very sketchy for the police to deal with (I know from experience, my girlfriend was a victim. I use the word was for a purpose here... lets just say I found a way to make it stop. Google-ing a phone number can give you a surprisingly large database about a person... and their friends, and family, and what not). Make them fear for their lives every time they step out of their house. Deprive them of sleep, make them believe that there is reason to fear, and let fear do the work for you!
The mind is an easily manipulated thing, use that to your advantage.
And, just to be saf...er, clear on this:
As a disclaimer to this post: I in no way condone the use of physical violence nor the use of any form(s) of communication other than their intended use. In no way is this post meant to be a guideline, suggestion, or anything other than mere rambling. I do not endorse the engagement in any activity that may be deemed unlawful, or inhumane. This post is for entertainment purposes only and should not be viewed as otherwise... yatta yatta yatta.