Reorganizing the forum naming

[Razberry Knight]

i still don't see why the needs of the few (in this case one) outweigh the needs of the many. this forum has been around for six years, and you're the first person to have ever had this problem. instead of spending your time complaining about what's wrong, you could just spend it getting used to the forum.

in this case its style over substance. The "need" of the many is based on subective things while the need of the "few" is to help the forums be more inviting.

The place is already fine as it is. As others have said if you were not using a mobile the layout would be fine, though one problem you may be having is the skin your using. Cause I use a mobile phone to access this place at times as well, there is a skin default for the mobile phone. Using that I have no problem with this place except the top portion. Everyone has pointed out that there is a description of what each forum section is about, all you have to do is take the time and read it. Also as many have said this is a FF forum so having theme related forum names for this makes sense. Just because all the other ones you went to do not use themed names, that does not make us in the wrong for doing so. It is just not what you are used to seeing.

yeah i realize that but its easy to forget which description goes with is which name. Maning for some, they will have to constantly read description.

Well I wouldnt mind seeing different names for the sections as well.
Religious could be perhaps something about Fayth (FFX)
Maybe different FF titles should be involved and not only the so highly overrated FFVII!

Simple names meh that would indeed take away the charm. but a renewal or refreshment I would welcome

honestly its confusing. The forums separates from gaia to spira to rpg central to the last one i forgot. I think you should understand where the newbies are cming from. 6 six years of no change wont hurt any1 to make it easier on the newcomers.

The naming is very vague. And im sure it took you 6 six years or less to get used to it, but im sure it wont take less than a week to get used to a lil more easy going names....the only place i see themed names are ff wikia. However they have an extensive guide to help out and dont use the naming convention for everything. At least make the names easier and original so it can be more inviting. The "charm" looks like a deformity, because it appears random.

Also this is more than just naming but organizing. Theres alot that are arbitrarily specific sch as FF movies and such. Wouldnt it be easier to split it through "Main FF games" "Spin off FF games" and "Other FF media"?

It's confusing at first but you get used to it (even if I still get lost trying to find a specific sub forum). No need to change what's already there since it takes time to get used to a forum's layout.

It shouldnt take this ammount. Especially if you're here for a year. And stilll have trouble.

 

[Will Graham]

You are complaining that you can't get used to a layout, so your solution is a new layout. Which will just confuse all of the currently active members because it is apparently impossible to get used to a layout according to you. If you find the descriptions vague (which ones out of interest) we could just edit those not the forum names

 

[Jetstream Sam]

Either adjust to the way things are here or go, the forum is fine the way it is. Suggestions are welcome but unless there's a good number of people wanting it, things won't change.

 

[Naoto Shirogane]

Yeah, The forum is simple enough as is. Just because you have to do a little extra work(which should take less than 30 seconds) to read a short discription is no reason to do a full forum renovation.

Maybe names could be changed to keep it simple yet still keeping the Final Fantasy charm. But really, this is rather trivial and I must agree with a post above. "The needs of few do not outweigh the needs of many"

My Opinion? Leave the forum as is. Just because you don't understand some things doesn't mean others won't. We have topics and section created for the sole Purpose of telling the members Which is which. While your Idea is good in theory, it's bad in practice. I think this should not happen.

 

[Bambi]

we were all new once, and all managed to adjust to the names eventually.

Im not really for renaming anything either, as it will take longer for the vast majority of members who are used to a certain section being named a certain thing to adjust, to a complete overhaul, than a new member gettign used to the current names

It really doesnt take that long to get used to the sections, at least not the ones you frequent anyway, I'll admit I still dont remember what some of the sub forums are called, but its not really hard to find what youre looking for as each subsection is named something sensible anyway the only bone of contention Id have really, is the naming guadosalam, it's not very obvious

I guess one or two tweaks would be fine, but Costa is far too much of a staple to be changed to anything else imo

 

[Mitsuki]

Well I wouldnt mind seeing different names for the sections as well.
Religious could be perhaps something about Fayth (FFX)
Maybe different FF titles should be involved and not only the so highly overrated FFVII!

Simple names meh that would indeed take away the charm. but a renewal or refreshment I would welcome

Something like this, I don't mind, though I wouldn't say do it for the whole entire section / forum. For the most part I think it's fine as it is, but there's one or two I wouldn't mind changing. Midgar for instance...maybe "Blitzball Stadium" as it represents entertainment. Though if you guys prefer to keep it as Midgar, that's alright too. A few of you brought up the Religious Debate and suggested something with "Temple" (Djose Temple?) or "Fayth". Nothing set in stone, don't mind hearing ideas though.

At this time, I don't think we will be doing a straight-to-the-point and blunt approach to the names. The members prefer the FF-theme incorporated to the section names, and I think that should stay. Thank you for your suggestions though.

 

[Razberry Knight]

It seems it seen so negatively over oxy moron reasons. They admit its extra work and takes a while but they lie (yes lie) stating it will be harder to navigate when they havent even given a thought or two. Hypothetically for every1 if the organization and naming was different. What would make it good? Because i know some of you see the reasons why it would be a good idea in theback of your mind.

I can understand its difficult for someone to "like" the idea. Making this more fandom then proper organization.

At least consider half of my suggestion. For example "Cloud's Entertainment Section" and "Cid of the Lufaine's RP central" things like that, that will make things slightly more easier. And im only giving examples. The suggestion is more of the idea of at least having ff theme while still making it easier to navigate.

The forum is organized by FF world, not by topic. So not even the related subjects fall in the same world group.

 

[Will Graham]

Those names are not very good at all though, literally no one has this problem except for you.

Cloud's entertainment section

Midgar - Any form of news or entertainment can be discussed here.

The difference is the split second it takes to read the extra few words. Also this is renaming things not reorganising them, I could get on board with a new structure

 

[Razberry Knight]

Those names are not very good at all though, literally no one has this problem except for you.

Cloud's entertainment section

Midgar - Any form of news or entertainment can be discussed here.

The difference is the split second it takes to read the extra few words. Also this is renaming things not reorganising them, I could get on board with a new structure

Reread everything ive said. And you'll see why this post wasnt worth much. Split second to read? It takes about an extra 30 along description. If the hypothetical title i proposed was in. The description would take more specific approach.

 

[Naoto Shirogane]

I really do not understand why this is a big deal. We have new members join everyday and post topics in guadosalm BECAUSE they took an extra five seconds too read the description. You are literally the only person who has this problem. Your posts are you arguing about name changing that will only confuse us(AKA: The members who have gotten used to it) and dull down the place. If it's that annoying Screen shot a picture of the Forums and Edit it so you can use it like a map.

I see no problem with the current set up. Infact, no one but you does. I see no reason to change this. If everyday members can easily find their way around.(With countless topics and people who are willing to point this out) Things should not be changed.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but if it's that much of a problem for you.....We can send you a map? As i said before, Your idea is good in theory, but terrible in practice. I understand where your coming from, but I don't think we should make it so blatant. It takes away from the whole: "This is really A Final Fantasy Forum" and replaces it with: " Clouds Entertainment section? Uncreative much?"

If members can find their way around efficently after they have joined Then I see no reason to change it.

 

[ribbit]

It shouldnt take this ammount. Especially if you're here for a year. And stilll have trouble.

I just forget where specific sub forums and stickied threads are. I've only been here half a year, I just joined over a year ago. It only takes like a week to get used to if you're active enough. The FF sub forums are straight forward enough. Ignore the titles like Gaia or Spira. The sub forums explain everything else for you.

 

[CassinoChips]

All right, let's settle down a bit.

The suggestion to rename some main headings has been received, and is being looked at, as Mits has said a couple times. Most likely, if anything will be changed, it will be small, and more to do with sub-forums than anything else. The forum itself is not going to be reorganized, as that isn't practicable right now with the recent vB update. And I don't think anywhere near the majority wants that. The renaming that may take place will likely be something along what has been suggested as far as a hybrid of information and theme.

No need to get defensive.

 

[Razberry Knight]

I really do not understand why this is a big deal. We have new members join everyday and post topics in guadosalm BECAUSE they took an extra five seconds too read the description. You are literally the only person who has this problem. Your posts are you arguing about name changing that will only confuse us(AKA: The members who have gotten used to it) and dull down the place. If it's that annoying Screen shot a picture of the Forums and Edit it so you can use it like a map.

I see no problem with the current set up. Infact, no one but you does. I see no reason to change this. If everyday members can easily find their way around.(With countless topics and people who are willing to point this out) Things should not be changed.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but if it's that much of a problem for you.....We can send you a map? As i said before, Your idea is good in theory, but terrible in practice. I understand where your coming from, but I don't think we should make it so blatant. It takes away from the whole: "This is really A Final Fantasy Forum" and replaces it with: " Clouds Entertainment section? Uncreative much?"

If members can find their way around efficently after they have joined Then I see no reason to change it.

you see thats where i disagree. A final Fantasy forum because they use ffx and vii locales over general naming? Thats like sayings its not an ultimania if the table of contents was named after a fictional ancient book..and again cloud's entertainment section was a hypothetical example. Specifically say why this would go wrong? In theory and in practice i think it will be simpler and easier even for those who were here on the first year.

The forum is organized by FF locales not by topic. The topics are put in random FF locales of X and VII. If Spira focused on a more specific group of topics and Gaia focused on another specific, it would be much better.

And for now we shouldnt speak for others.