Nihilism

Genius is either genetic or experience. But that depends. It may have to do with what kinds of things you do, whether you're a genius at music, math, oration or sciences. I guess there's a reason why everyone's not a genius now, is there? Would be nice to be surrounded by smart people, but when everyone is smarter than you, you may lose respect for yourself.

Apparently, extremely autistic people may classify for being geniuses. Their problem is in not being recognized because they are socially misfit and considered awkward by most people.
 
I thought genius was a natural talent rather than acquired. I mean, a person can become quite good at say, sports, but if they weren't born with it they can only attain a certain level of talent. Pretty much everything can be improved upon with patience and practice but you can't go above what your individual bar of excellence.

You would think that people who are geniuses would be the cream of the crop of society yet they are often the type to be most alienated. Is this natural human jealously or the fact with talent comes ocastrization stemming one's own pride?

I think uncommon sense is more just good sense than anything really special. Because many people in the world lack even basic sense any kind of sense is considered special.
 
Well, Einstein was never really considered a genius his whole live. That was until after he worked as a clerk in Switzerland, and something caused him to inquire about the natural world. And now he's a genius for discovering relativity.

Lots of people are losing self awareness. They never see themselves how other people see them, and their egoes are inflating. They never stop to think for once because all they think about is "me, me, me and me", and with materialism in a world like today's, and social pressure, it's no surprise that they don't care about other people.
 
Didn't Einstien fail math or is that a myth? The tale is that they the teacher was taught a level of math far below his level so he got bored. Complancy lead to laziness and that lead to his failing. If it's true, it is rather ironic.

People being self-absorbed is an unfortunate reality of life. It's the rat race as they call it. We are consumers and we buys products and services and then use them, toss them aside and hunt for more. This is only natural. It is engrained for us to acquire what we need to sustain ourselves. It is when we go beyond what we need and becomes what we want. Wanting and getting what a person wants isn't evil--it's pursuit of happiness. It's when this pursuit comes at a cost to others that it becomes dangerous and self-centered.
 
I heard that too, but don't remember if it's true. Granted, one of his teachers said he would never become a genius. What irony.

We will never stop desiring for something, anything. Once you have satisfied a desire, you will always have more. That way, we will never truly be happy. There's another thing about reality that must be accepted; we can never truly be happy. To make up a paradise like heaven about it, but knowing that it doesn't exist because you made it up is another method of avoiding the inevitable. Maybe it will give you something to look forward to, but if you're wrong, you'll only end up destroying your hopes. And rather horribly. As a nihilist, even if slightly, I can be glad that I accept that there may be no state of eternal happiness. I'm already happy enough to be able to accept the world and reality for what it is, when other people fail to do so.
 
Constantly desiring something more is a definitive Human trait.
We strive for a goal and once we have acomplished it we strive for another goal.

I wonder why is this why are we never satisfied? Is it because if we are astisfied we cease to struggle and strive and we become weak and lazy? Like in that stry about Einstein true or not he ceased striving for something and bacame lazy and uninterested.

Is it a key part of our survival that we are never satisfied?
 
Possibly. Or it may be the condition of the human mind that if you do not have a desire, you will be bored. If I do not have a mental challenge, I will become bored. And boredom, as I have said before, is the downfall of intelligence; I wish not to have my intelligence grow stagnant because of boredom; my mind must simply be occupied, or I will not be satisfied.
 
Bordem, desire, lust, love, greed. knowledge, wisdom, intelligence.

We feel so much we experiance so much and all of it for nothing all of it meaningless all of it striving to survive as long as possible in a life that is doomed from the moment it starts.

How absolutly pathetic. This is why I would destroy everything if I could beacause it is all pointless and meaningless and worthless. All of it.
 
But do you really believe it matters whether it is destroyed or not? Or do you do it because you believe that people are foolish enough to believe that anything matters, and that you wish to show them that it doesn't? Such strong determination...
 
I want to destroy it precisly because it does not mater.

I do not think I can explain it fully or even a lttle but I feel compelled to destroy this world because it has no meaning or purpose.

Like I said I can not tuly explain this feeling it is not a burning desire for what would be the point. It is simply a feeling with no emotion.
 
See, this is why I brought up the point of the stereotyping against nihilists. I know that not all nihilists want to destroy the world, but if you, as a nihilist, wanted to destroy the world, it's probably not what they think, is it?
 
I do not know, why would they think a Nihilist would want to dstroy the world?

What exactly is that steroeotype? Describe it to me and I may be able to tell you how much I fit into it.
 
Well, as we have been discussing, most people think that nihilists are destructive because they think nothing matters. Because nothing matters, they think that it's alright to destroy everything because they don't have to take responsibility. The problem is that just because we CAN destroy everything without responsibility doesn't mean we will. They fail to realize that the epitome of not caring is not creating or not destroying; simply not caring. However, you said you want to destroy the world because people foolishly cling to all meaning, even if it's meaningless in the end. At least that's what I think you said. Is this any different from the stereotype that people paste on nihilists?
 
Well in that case I am not that stereotype.

I do not wish to deestroy the world because I do not care about rules or because I do not have to take responsibility for it.

I wish to destroy everything because it is meaningless nothing more. Getting away with it does not matter to me truth be told I would not care if I did not succeed in it.
 
It's very difficult to see eye to eye with someone that isn't a nihilist. They can't stop clinging to whatever meaning they have in their lives. It's almost like organized religion; once you hold that God exists and you place all faith in that existence, it's very difficult to change that; maybe even impossible. You can try to tell them these things in an attempt to bring understanding and a new viewpoint, but most people often listen with their own perspectives in meaning rather than letting go completely. That truly is the meaning of being open minded; to let go what you believe you know for a second and consider what is being said. Of course, you still have to keep logic with you though.
 
To be truly open minded I often wonder if I could be. Some how I doubt it I find those who find meaning in life to be deluded fools and as such I can not take them seriously. I am not proud of it sure but to be frank it doesn'y matter so I have no reason to try and change.
 
As far as openmindedness goes, I can understand that they feel that way because they won't let go of what they believe, so they fail to see anything else outside of their own mindset. As for the validity of what they believe, it's certainly questionable, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. The least I can have is to respect their beliefs as long as they don't interfere with other people's beliefs and leave them alone. Because to a nihilist, nothing they believe in matters.
 
In otherwords thay are not open minded at all.

Then again I know that I am not open minded I just see their views as stupid wakness, ignorance, and fear. I don't actually go and tell people these things though I keep my opinions to myself I see no reason to waste my time on them as there is not point.
 
If their viewpoints are not logical, I would consider them stupid. I wouldn't tell it to their faces though because then I'd just be asking for trouble. But you're right; normally, I'd leave them alone unless it's a debate setting like in a forum, and then I would use all of my reasoning to show just how wrong their beliefs sound. In particular, I'm speaking of the fundamental Christians who don't realize how scary their bible really is, and what they actually propose, and how scientifically inaccurate their theory is.
 
I really do not understand how funadmentalist Christians can call the bible "the good book" When it is the largest collection of the atrocities Humanity has commited outside of the internet. That does not include all the evil acts their God has done either. I guess that is what they call Blind Faith.
 
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