Mayans predict the end of the world [2012]

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There are many speculations about the year 2012. Some say it is the beginning of the apocalypse and all life on Earth will cease to exist, some say it is the year of spiritual uplifting and some believe it is nothing, just another year going by. In an uncanny coalescence to FF VIII, a book written in 2006 called 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl describes the theories of global awakening to psychic connection creating a noosphere. "sphere of human thought"

I wanted to point out some correlations between these theories and Final Fantasy, but I also want to know what you think, let me know....


If there is a better place for this, let me know please.
 
Yea, I've heard the rumors. I don't believe them at all but it will be interesting to see how people react to the hype as we get closer to the "day of judgement". People will be inclined to act foolishly because they're afraid or just moronic. As for relating it to Final Fantasy, I can't really help you there bud. Maybe if this were just a general discussion of the prediction I could think of more to say... but not to relate it to Final Fantasy.
 
Aztec Triogal said:
Yea, I've heard the rumors. I don't believe them at all but it will be interesting to see how people react to the hype as we get closer to the "day of judgement". People will be inclined to act foolishly because they're afraid or just moronic. As for relating it to Final Fantasy, I can't really help you there bud. Maybe if this were just a general discussion of the prediction I could think of more to say... but not to relate it to Final Fantasy.
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I wouldn't say it relates all that well, I was just thinking about all the different plots in different FF's and it quite reminded me of a few. FFI to be specific... The earth was crumbling, and whatever, 4 warriors of light must come and save the world, just saw it as something that if anything were actually to happen, who's going to save us? lol:P

Just thought it would be good discussion not necessarily relative to FF.....
 
Things like this have happened before... Where famous minds, great civilisations renown for being wise state that the world will end at a certain time, and so far we've lived through each of these predictions.
At the time it was probably just mytholgical stories. They needed to say something about the return of their god, so approximate a random date of somekind, or perhaps a thought out date approximated by the stars or whatever. I dunno, I'm pulling stuff from behind my ears here as I haven't head this particular rumour myself, I just know it is just as likely to occur as a pig is to fly to the moon to fetch me a sandwich.

As for Final Fantasy, I don't know... What links has it got to Final Fantasy, other than one of the summons being named after a god? I can't think of any others relating to this incident.
 
Argor251 said:
Things like this have happened before... Where famous minds, great civilisations renown for being wise state that the world will end at a certain time, and so far we've lived through each of these predictions.
At the time it was probably just mytholgical stories. They needed to say something about the return of their god, so approximate a random date of somekind, or perhaps a thought out date approximated by the stars or whatever. I dunno, I'm pulling stuff from behind my ears here as I haven't head this particular rumour myself, I just know it is just as likely to occur as a pig is to fly to the moon to fetch me a sandwich.
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This is why I ignore most prophecies of doom 'n' gloom. The reason this one is a bit bigger though, is because multiple people from different cultures in various times predicted the same date.

Personally, I'm just going to assume they were using the same math formula. I mean, 2 plus 2 equals 4 in the US, just like two plus two will equal four in Russia, or India, or Antarctica.
 
Well if we're talking end of the world destruction, I'm pretty much convinced a little FFV convo is in the works. In FFVI, Kefka changed the world to his image. In FFV, the world was vaccummed up by Ex-Death in an attempt to destroy it. Even Garath Gobblecock of FFI didn't have that in store.
 
I've been reading about stuff like this for a long, long time.
And aside from other predictions from before(like 2000)
this seems a little more believeable, but not the end of the world i think..
I mean, come on..

The worst that could happen is like another consiousness, but it's not like it will trigger at that date.. Guess it will just smoothly happen in time and nobody really experiences something odd..

As for Final Fantasy, they're are a lot of references to all kind of things in this world.. But no references to 2012 right?
Well, except for that book you mentioned i guess.
 
2012 is were evil robot Nazi's who happen to be zombies attack Chuck Norris leaving us defenceless.

I pretty sure the people know when they say the calender is going end, So if the calender ends, what do you do? Buy a new one. -__-

Trying to scare us methinks. Like they'll make us buy they're books and stuff, because Humans are naturally scared of what they don't understand, especially when it comes to the world getting owned.

Sorry if I sound like I'm taking it super serial but I just think it's stupid that people actually thing the world will end because of a bunch of people say a random date.

EDIT; I just relised this was in an FF section. I thought it was in the Debate section or something. >_>
 
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Moved to TSF because I had no idea where else to put it, if it's a dupe or in the wrong place feel free to shift it, I usually avoid this section liek the plague :wacky:
 
It seems fine here, Bam. I was wondering how you were able to delete that one post.

Anywho, I do not believe the end of the world is soon. Nobody really knows when it will happen. Life is like fractals. You never no what is going to happen next. Even though things appear to be ordered somehow.
 
I dont really believe in this really I mean when people seen the Mayan calendar end on that date i was like well maybe they didnt live long enough to finish it or what ever happened to them. It being related to Final Fantasy i dont really she how unles it was concidence.
 
I just hope that the Final Fantasy reference in this isn't Quetzacoatl, because it isn't really an FF reference. Quetzacoatl was an Aztec and Mayan god. He appears as a flying serpent in FF8, yes because they were bored of using Ramuh in every game, but it is more that FF is referencing the god rather than vice versa. FF does that a lot. It loves mythology.

So the title of the book "The Return of Quetzacoatl", doesn't strike me as odd and shocking at all. It doesn't jump at me as an FF reference, and it really isn't. In fact. thinking up a title myself for such a theme, it would come to be a title I would expect from a book like that, and I'd probably have chosen it myself.

If that isn't the reference you mean and we're to use our imaginations here and link it to FF somehow then I dunno... Perhaps all this is predicting is the dawn of the Moogle? The heavens open, and tiny teddy monsters with pom-poms come down to earth, as like a god!
 
If the world does end in 2012 imma be awfully pissed that the end comes 3 months after I get the hell outta college and get my degree =/
 
another wacko theory heres when the world should have ended according to predictions:

nostradamus: 1946 hitler was going to win wwII and the world ended jan 1 2000

october 2001 via nuclear fallout

june 2005 metor crashing into the earth

sept 2007 biological war

so far ALL predictions have been wrong, were still here no doubt the mayan one will be wrong too :P
 
Jill Valentine said:
another wacko theory heres when the world should have ended according to predictions:

nostradamus: 1946 hitler was going to win wwII and the world ended jan 1 2000

october 2001 via nuclear fallout

june 2005 metor crashing into the earth

sept 2007 biological war

so far ALL predictions have been wrong, were still here no doubt the mayan one will be wrong too :P
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Indeed. I remember once some people tried to claim that the Bible predicted and warned us of many catastrophes, such as the World Wars and September 11th. I can't remember if it was words from the text, or selected words, or reading things vertically.. Or using some code the people who claimed it made up.
So really sometimes I believe that you can find things to support any theory you want if you look hard enough, but that doesn't mean that it was written for that purpose. In other words if you analyse something too much it turns you insane, but you still think you have a theory. :P
 
Diesel said:
If the world does end in 2012 imma be awfully pissed that the end comes 3 months after I get the hell outta college and get my degree =/
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Bear in mind this is the debate section, so more effort in the future please.
Also the topic is about the Mayan forecast about the destruction of the wrold, so can we stay on topic. Thanks.
 
The whole matter looks like horse crap to me. All of these "world end x year x month x day" predictions have been so wrong its not even funny. The world was predicted by different groups to end in 1914, 1946, 1988, 1999, 2000, 2006, etc, and we're still here. I'll take healthy skepticism over wild speculation caused by the writings of a long dead civilization that a few Spaniards took out.
 
Think in 2012 the world will change a little bit and life will be a little different after the polar shift. The change could be good or bad..

But not so bad that the world ends ( hopefully.. )

( Glups )

Final Fantasy wise ? Sephiroth appears out of nowhere in 2012, controls us to summon the Black Materia and we end the world ourselves..
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I thought the Mayans only predicted a big change, not the end of the world and it was only because there number system ran out when they got to the year 2012

Either way I would trust our scientists a billion times more to work out when the earth will end (sun expanding and engulfing us for instance) rather than just because someone’s calendar ran out.
 
Personally, I think those apocalypse prophecies are a load of hooey. They were wrong, are wrong, and will be wrong. The "new year" prophecy, of how computers would self-destruct because their clocks couldn't advance to 2000 was the most realistic one.

FF-wise? Moogles come down, party, and eventually get drunk and blow up the world with Kupo bombs.
 
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