Manny Pacquiao

Mayweather isn't as good as Morales, Dela Hoya or Barrera...so I don't think it will be the best fight Manny will have in his career. Nevertheless, it will prove more entertaining than Hatton's fight did.
 
Hatton's foolish, you'd have thought he would have quit after he lost to Mayweather, so hopefully now he will finish his career before he gets his arse kicked again. :awesome:
I just saw where he was floored on the news then, he got pwned xD
 
Okay, so Manny's fight with Cotto is this Saturday! Anyone seeing it? I can't wait. I hope it lasts for more than 5 minutes unlike the last time. I'm not familiar with Cotto so I have no idea how the fight's gonna go, but I keep hearing that the fight is rigged because naturally they want Paquiao to move up and fight Mayweather. Meh, I don't know if that's true, but I really do wanna see Pacman be a little more challenged.
 
So I'm sure you guys have heard about the Mayweather V.S PacMan fight and how it got cancelled due to disagreements with drug-testing procedures. What are your thoughts on this?
 
My family and I are in agreement on how retarded the whole affair played out. This whole thing could've been avoided if Pacquiao would just take the damn drug test and now he's being accused of actually using steroids. :ffs:
 
I thought he was already accused of taking steroids before the whole thing blew off...? Reason why they want him to do the test? Eh, I must have heard wrong then.
 
Actually it was simply the connotations of being ordered to take a drug test that had the steroids undertone to this argument. Although Floyd's camp never mentioned steroids implicitly, it was heavily implied. Floyd Sr even had some nerve to half-bake a quote on ESPN or some drawl about how it's "unnatural" for a person to jump weight classes so easily and dominate like Pacquiao has.

The Mayweather camp kept pushing and pushing and eventually they pushed too far. Pacquiao didn't wish to be bullied into what "Money" wanted. Pride was central to all this mess, it was a power struggle before any punch was even close to being thrown.

It seems that Pacquiao has taken his star power now onwards to Dallas Stadium on March 13, 2010 and facing Joshua Clottey instead so I can only hope that idiot "Money" is watching the best boxer of this generation (srsly) earning a fuckload more than he is.

As far as Floyd's concerned, it was an insult to have him come back from retirement, somehow reclaim his throne over a mis-matched fight against an underweight and underpowered Marquez and then accuse the P4P best fighter in the world of roiding. What an absolute cunt.



Extended reading: Here's Pacquiao's advisor speaking in a press release pretty much confirming my views
Pacquiao's adviser, Michael Koncz, said on the fighter's website, "The whole blood testing issue that Mayweather wants from Manny is just a facade to get Mayweather out of this fight.

"Right now Manny is terribly disappointed. We did everything the Nevada Athletic Commission regulates.

"Even though it was out of their jurisdiction, we had the Olympic committee take urine samples from Manny's home just last week and those results will be in next week.

"Manny knows this is the fight of the century. He knows this is what the fans want. Manny is standing on principle here.

"The money in this fight is not going to make Manny lose his principle and that is what it comes down to. This is exactly why he will not break for these guys.

"Manny will not bow down to these people who think they can just change the rules and make Manny jump through their hoops."


Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/jan/08/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-talks-collapse
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I did not know that Pacquiao has a fight with Clottey tonight! =O Well, I found out last night, but still, how did I miss this? >.> I guess I'm heading over to L.A. tonight to see the fight at my grandma's. Jeez, I wasn't expecting this at all - have to cancel a few plans now.

This is going to be quite an exciting match! I mean look at Clottey...he's quite a tank. Will Pacman stand a chance?
 
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Only because Pacman lost. I missed the fight last night, but I wanted to see it. Anyone saw it? Thoughts?
 
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Mitsuki said:
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Only because Pacman lost. I missed the fight last night, but I wanted to see it. Anyone saw it? Thoughts?
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It's okay Mits, the fight was kinda boring anyways. Pacquiao didn't do a lot of work on this one apart from his other fights, but in the end, he won. But the rookie judges favored Bradley, so he ended up losing his WBO Welterweight Belt.

The fight was rigged to begin with and they were already selling out Bradley vs. Pacquiao II tickets, kinda fishy lol.

Freakin bullshit x.x
 
i was just reading on yahoo, that there is gonna be an investigation into the scoring judges. i guess there are many that feel pacquiao got screwed. in my opinion he clearly won, the match should not have been a split decision. lemme quote yahoo here:

LAS VEGAS – Promoter Bob Arum was still fuming about the split-decision verdict that went against Manny Pacquiao on Saturday and said there would be no rematch with Timothy Bradley unless Nevada attorney general Catherine Cortez Masto launches an investigation.
Bradley, a 4-1 underdog, upset Pacquiao in one of the most controversial outcomes in years to take the World Boxing Organization welterweight title.
All three judges scored it 115-113, with Duane Ford and C.J. Ross seeing it in favor of Bradley and Jerry Roth siding with Pacquiao.
The rematch that Bradley thought he would get may be on hold, at least for a while, however. Arum, whose company promotes both fighters, said his feeling that Pacquiao had won a wide decision had not changed a day later.


But because of the outcry among the fans and media, many of whom accused Arum of somehow rigging the outcome, the veteran promoter said he would demand an investigation.
"I want to investigate whether there was any undue influence, whether the (Nevada Athletic Commission) gave any particular instruction and how they came to this conclusion," said Arum, who at the post-fight news conference was adamant the result was a mistake but not the result of any chicanery. "But the whole sport is in an uproar. People are going crazy.
"If this was a subjective view that each of [the judges] honestly held, OK. I would still disagree, but then we're off the hook in terms of there being no conspiracy. But there needs to be an independent investigation because it strains credulity that an event everybody saw as so one-sided one way all three judges saw it as close. It strains credulity."


Ford spoke by telephone to Yahoo! Sports on Sunday. He said the criticism is a part of the job he accepts, but said those criticizing the outcome are almost certainly not familiar with the way fights are judged.
"If this were American Idol, without a doubt, Manny Pacquiao would have won," Ford said. "But it was not. I gave an honest opinion. I had Pacquiao up 4-2, I think, at the end of six rounds. I thought he hurt Bradley a couple of times early in the fight. But when the bell rang to end that round, it was over and what happens in one round doesn't carry over to the next round. They're separate units.
"In the second half of the fight, Pacquiao picked off a lot of punches to the head, but Bradley landed some hard body shots. That hurt Pacquiao. I don't mean it hurt him in the sense of it physically hurting him, but in terms of scoring and piling up points. Bradley did an excellent job standing his ground as a boxer. Remember, it's a boxing match and Bradley demonstrated his ability to box expertly."
Bradley has been harshly criticized by many who believe Pacquiao won, but the fact that Bradley won the fight with two badly injured feet should say something about his tenacity.
And the bout might suggest that Pacquiao is declining more than previously thought. If he had trouble with a fighter who had two injured feet and needed a wheelchair to attend the post-fight news conference, how difficult would it have been for him had his opponent been completely mobile?

Bradley injured his left foot in the second round when he pivoted. His manager, Cameron Dunkin, said an examination late Saturday revealed torn ligaments that will keep him off it for several weeks to a month.
He said the X-ray did not show a fracture, but doctors ordered an MRI on Monday in Palm Springs, Calif.
"They said that just because the X-ray did not show a fracture didn't mean there isn't one," Dunkin said. "He has a lot of pain on the top of the foot and there are 700 bones in there. Some of them are so small. The doctor said the only way to tell if there is a fracture is to do an MRI."
He said there was no serious injury to the right foot, which was far more swollen than the left.
"The right was just kind of rolled and it was basically a twisted foot that was pretty swollen," Dunkin said.


Dunkin also said he was fine if Arum chose not to arrange a rematch. He said Top Rank promotes Bradley and owes him a fight. If it chose not to make a rematch with Pacquiao, it would have to book a different fight for Bradley.
Juan Manuel Marquez, who lost a controversial decision to Pacquiao on Nov. 12 in the same arena, was in attendance Saturday, Top Rank president Todd duBoef said, because the company was planning to make Pacquiao-Marquez IV in the event of a Pacquiao win.
That changed in light of the outcome, and Pacquiao said he wanted a rematch. Ultimately, Arum will likely accede to Pacquiao's wishes.
Pacquiao's next fight almost certainly will not be in Las Vegas after the uproar over Saturday's fight. Ford, though, said it is unfair for those who don't know the scoring criteria and who weren't focusing intently on the fight to bash the judges.
"In pro boxing, you look for damage, and if the punches are equal and the damage is equal, you are looking for effective aggression, and that does not necessarily mean the guy going forward," Ford said. "Effective aggression can be a guy going back. And then you look at ring generalship, and that's all about control.
"When you score a fight of that magnitude, you know the criticism comes with the job. But unless you are totally focused on that scoring zone for three minutes, it's impossible to score the fight correctly. I know you can't do it talking into a microphone. It was a close fight in my mind that could have gone either way. The result was nothing more than three judges giving an honest opinion, and nothing other than that."


Arum told media at ringside that Dunkin had scored it 116-112 for Pacquiao, but Dunkin angrily denied that Sunday. Dunkin said he had it 115-113 in favor of Bradley.
He said he understands the uproar, but said most of it is because of Pacquiao's huge popularity.
"If they're fighting on a street and we're just scoring the fight, the whole fight, I can see you thinking maybe Pacquiao won it," Dunkin said. "But when you score it round by round, I think it's very reasonable to believe Bradley won."
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WBO concludes Manny Pacquiao topped Timothy Bradley, but Bob Arum still wants investigation.


I honestly don't even know how its gotten to this point. Pacquiao clearly won the fight in my eyes. All of this BS just to keep delaying a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight that boxing fans have been dying to see for the last 3 years.
 
After getting KO'd in his last fight... pretty easily, I can see why Mayweather was reluctant to fight him all this time. It'd be no contest.

So, IMO he's not the one that'll give Floyd his first loss.
 
Twilight Sky said:
After getting KO'd in his last fight... pretty easily, I can see why Mayweather was reluctant to fight him all this time. It'd be no contest.

So, IMO he's not the one that'll give Floyd his first loss.
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Yeah I don't think that's gonna go down pretty either. He doesn't seem to be as focused anymore, especially since he saw it necessary to dabble in politics. :unsure: He didn't even train as much before the fight, so I don't think he's really in it anymore. I actually didn't even see the fight, but I did see that KO.
 
I think the only ones that can beat Floyd are heavyweights but not gonna happen :P.

As for the Pacquiao fight, I didn't see it either and only saw the KO vid as well. It seems it didn't go many rounds either. His wife thinks his time is up and she's worried if he keeps going, he'll get hurt bad. But I donno, guess it depends on the conditioner and who he fights. You got boxers that keep fighting well into their 40s. Like Holyfield, he retired at 51.
 
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